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Peggie Hall/HeadMistress
About Penetrol
At the SSCA GAM last month, I sat in for a while on Jan Mundy's (publisher of DIY magazine) hull maintenance seminar, in which she discussed the proper use of Penetrol--one of the most mis-used products in fiberglass maintenance. Penetrol is not a protectant like Wax, PolyGlow, Island Girl etc...so it isn't a choice between Penetrol and one of those. Penetrol should only be used ahead of compounding, to draw out oxidation and restore color. Compounding should then be followed by the protective coating of your choice best suited for your climate. I'll see if I can get Jan to drop by for a visit to discuss it more detail.
At the SSCA GAM last month, I sat in for a while on Jan Mundy's (publisher of DIY magazine) hull maintenance seminar, in which she discussed the proper use of Penetrol--one of the most mis-used products in fiberglass maintenance. Penetrol is not a protectant like Wax, PolyGlow, Island Girl etc...so it isn't a choice between Penetrol and one of those. Penetrol should only be used ahead of compounding, to draw out oxidation and restore color. Compounding should then be followed by the protective coating of your choice best suited for your climate. I'll see if I can get Jan to drop by for a visit to discuss it more detail.
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Peggie Hall/HeadMistress
Just talked to Jan...
and sent her a link to this thread. She'll be along to answer your questions as soon as she can make time. I told her to expect a barrage of questions! <g>
and sent her a link to this thread. She'll be along to answer your questions as soon as she can make time. I told her to expect a barrage of questions! <g>
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Don Evans
Peggie...
If you got an "in " with Jan, maybe you could ask her to sit in as a guest (Phil, you there?, what do you think?). I have been a big fan of DIY for many years, having subscribed on and off. It's one of the better marine mags out there IMHO. I'm sure she is very busy but her and her department writers knowledge is very deep. Just a thought. Don
If you got an "in " with Jan, maybe you could ask her to sit in as a guest (Phil, you there?, what do you think?). I have been a big fan of DIY for many years, having subscribed on and off. It's one of the better marine mags out there IMHO. I'm sure she is very busy but her and her department writers knowledge is very deep. Just a thought. Don
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Tom FitzGibbon
What Don Said
Peggie and Phil, I too am a big fan of Jan's magazine and would love to see her be a "guest lecturer" here for a short time. Phil, any chance our begging and pleading will help make this happen? Tom
Peggie and Phil, I too am a big fan of Jan's magazine and would love to see her be a "guest lecturer" here for a short time. Phil, any chance our begging and pleading will help make this happen? Tom
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Ted
PoliGlow . . .
I think your results will be more up to expectations by using the PoliGlow retoring kit (Prep & Polymer Solution). I'm not that up to speed on Penetrol, but I don't think you will get the results and longevity of PoliGlow. Regards, Ted
I think your results will be more up to expectations by using the PoliGlow retoring kit (Prep & Polymer Solution). I'm not that up to speed on Penetrol, but I don't think you will get the results and longevity of PoliGlow. Regards, Ted
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Bill O'Donovan
Perhaps a better question
...based on what Peggie wrote, is: Which is better,Island Girl or Polyglow?
...based on what Peggie wrote, is: Which is better,Island Girl or Polyglow?
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Daryl
Poliglow!
There was a Hunter in charter at my marina maintained by the yard. They switched from Penetrol to Poliglow. I was so impressed with the results I put it on my Hunter. It makes the boat look great! Sooner or later it needs to be removed and that won't be fun. Anyone selling an older boat with tired gelcoat should use Poliglow. I wouldn't put it on a newer vessel less that 5 years old but wouldn't hesitate putting it on any boat with weathered gelcoat
There was a Hunter in charter at my marina maintained by the yard. They switched from Penetrol to Poliglow. I was so impressed with the results I put it on my Hunter. It makes the boat look great! Sooner or later it needs to be removed and that won't be fun. Anyone selling an older boat with tired gelcoat should use Poliglow. I wouldn't put it on a newer vessel less that 5 years old but wouldn't hesitate putting it on any boat with weathered gelcoat
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Ted
PoliGlow is better . . .
Practical Sailor rated a whole bunch of restoring products a few years ago, and PoliGlow was rated best of the Do-It-Yourself products. Regards, Ted
Practical Sailor rated a whole bunch of restoring products a few years ago, and PoliGlow was rated best of the Do-It-Yourself products. Regards, Ted
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Bill
Just used Polyglow...
...on my [new / used] H25.5. The prep did a great job of clean up of 20 years of oxidation and neglect. The Polyglow treatment itself worked great (after 5 or 6 coats per the directions). The restored shine was close to the new unlaunched boats in the yard. Total time to thoroughly scrub the entire boat and apply to the hull topsides (including drying time) of only about four hours. HOWEVER!!! Polyglow is NOT recommended on decks or places where a slippery surfaces are not wanted (decks, cockpit sole, etc.). For that application, Island Girl makes a non-skid sealant that is supposed to be pretty good and not slippery. I have not tried it yet, but plan to in the spring. I have also "heard" that Polyglow may tend to yellow if not applied correctly. I have a beige 25.5 so that's not much of an issue - its already yellowed. ;-) I have not used the Island Girl equivalent of the Polyglow system. Polyglow was highly recommended by the locals I know. New Glass is also supposed to be worth considering, but I have no experience with it.
...on my [new / used] H25.5. The prep did a great job of clean up of 20 years of oxidation and neglect. The Polyglow treatment itself worked great (after 5 or 6 coats per the directions). The restored shine was close to the new unlaunched boats in the yard. Total time to thoroughly scrub the entire boat and apply to the hull topsides (including drying time) of only about four hours. HOWEVER!!! Polyglow is NOT recommended on decks or places where a slippery surfaces are not wanted (decks, cockpit sole, etc.). For that application, Island Girl makes a non-skid sealant that is supposed to be pretty good and not slippery. I have not tried it yet, but plan to in the spring. I have also "heard" that Polyglow may tend to yellow if not applied correctly. I have a beige 25.5 so that's not much of an issue - its already yellowed. ;-) I have not used the Island Girl equivalent of the Polyglow system. Polyglow was highly recommended by the locals I know. New Glass is also supposed to be worth considering, but I have no experience with it.
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Don K.
No need To Remove Poliglow
I was at the sailboat show in St Petersburg and spoke to reps. of PoliGlow and was told there is no need to ever remove it. Just wash the hull every six months and apply more of the product.
I was at the sailboat show in St Petersburg and spoke to reps. of PoliGlow and was told there is no need to ever remove it. Just wash the hull every six months and apply more of the product.
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Warren
Poliglow
I have used both Island Girl and Poliglow. I used Island Girl on a white 1979 hull and it did an amazing job. I purchased a 1989 blue Cat 30 and tried both products with no luck. I had a professional detailer work on the boat with traditional compound and wax and that did the trick. If I ever own another white or light color hull I would not hesitate to use either product.
I have used both Island Girl and Poliglow. I used Island Girl on a white 1979 hull and it did an amazing job. I purchased a 1989 blue Cat 30 and tried both products with no luck. I had a professional detailer work on the boat with traditional compound and wax and that did the trick. If I ever own another white or light color hull I would not hesitate to use either product.
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Steve
No contest - Poliglow vs. Island Girl
I can't really tell you about Poliglow, but I certainly can tell you about Island Girl. Use the pink stuff - it's great to clean old, chalky residue off your hull when it's not been maintained properly. The rest of it is junk, as a matter of fact, within 12 months, you will find yourself using soft scrub to remove it. One of my dockmates tried it, it looked great. I bought the stuff, used it, it looked great. Soon several of us on the dock had it on our boats. Not too long after that, soft scrub started selling well at the local stores, as we had to remove the Island Girl. It stains a dark color, and has to be removed.
I can't really tell you about Poliglow, but I certainly can tell you about Island Girl. Use the pink stuff - it's great to clean old, chalky residue off your hull when it's not been maintained properly. The rest of it is junk, as a matter of fact, within 12 months, you will find yourself using soft scrub to remove it. One of my dockmates tried it, it looked great. I bought the stuff, used it, it looked great. Soon several of us on the dock had it on our boats. Not too long after that, soft scrub started selling well at the local stores, as we had to remove the Island Girl. It stains a dark color, and has to be removed.
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Sean
Island Girl
I had the same experience with Island Girl super wax. It is very difficult to get off. The product seemed to absorb the pollution in the air. It looked great when I initially put it on, but after two months, I had to take it off. I'm back to teflon wax. I have to do it every year on the topsides though. Sean
I had the same experience with Island Girl super wax. It is very difficult to get off. The product seemed to absorb the pollution in the air. It looked great when I initially put it on, but after two months, I had to take it off. I'm back to teflon wax. I have to do it every year on the topsides though. Sean
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Jeff D
Island Girl Issues
Not at all pleased with the product. Attracts dirt and exhaust particles. Told to use "Super Glaze ? or something like that over the Island Girl to keep deck runoff and exhaust residue off. Didn't work! In my opinion too complicated to put on and expensive. Seems like there is always one more product to put on to make up for deficienies of the previous product. Way too much effort to have to be put on every year, not to mention the expense. Have seen Poliglow and it seems to work better and is easier.
Not at all pleased with the product. Attracts dirt and exhaust particles. Told to use "Super Glaze ? or something like that over the Island Girl to keep deck runoff and exhaust residue off. Didn't work! In my opinion too complicated to put on and expensive. Seems like there is always one more product to put on to make up for deficienies of the previous product. Way too much effort to have to be put on every year, not to mention the expense. Have seen Poliglow and it seems to work better and is easier.
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Peter
more island girl issues
Island girl didn't cut it for me. Any 3M polish worked way better for me, and was easier and faster to apply AND was far cheaper. Perhaps I'll try poliglow next, but I wouldn't bother with island girl again - although it seems that there's quite a few happy users, just don't include me in that group.
Island girl didn't cut it for me. Any 3M polish worked way better for me, and was easier and faster to apply AND was far cheaper. Perhaps I'll try poliglow next, but I wouldn't bother with island girl again - although it seems that there's quite a few happy users, just don't include me in that group.
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Frank Conley
Poliglow Fan - 3 Seasons
I've used Poliglow on my 1986 ODay 272 cream colored hull for three seasons now and love it. Secret for me was the initial prep using their Polyprep cleaner to get all of the oxidation off before appling the "wax". This part required elbow grease, but you only have to do it prior to the first application. I put on six coats of Poliglow each spring, takes about 20 minutes for each coat, follow directions alternating vertical and horizontal application(takes all six coats the first time, looks streaky until you build up to the six coats, have faith) Goes on easy, think kitchen floor wax, no rubbing. Looks great, holds up for the whole season. The next spring, I use the prep to clean up any area that has stained or rubbed off (like where a fender has rubbed the hull)and then put on my annual six coats. I'm done in one afternoon each spring and the guy next to me can't lift his arms for a week after using the buffer! Frank
I've used Poliglow on my 1986 ODay 272 cream colored hull for three seasons now and love it. Secret for me was the initial prep using their Polyprep cleaner to get all of the oxidation off before appling the "wax". This part required elbow grease, but you only have to do it prior to the first application. I put on six coats of Poliglow each spring, takes about 20 minutes for each coat, follow directions alternating vertical and horizontal application(takes all six coats the first time, looks streaky until you build up to the six coats, have faith) Goes on easy, think kitchen floor wax, no rubbing. Looks great, holds up for the whole season. The next spring, I use the prep to clean up any area that has stained or rubbed off (like where a fender has rubbed the hull)and then put on my annual six coats. I'm done in one afternoon each spring and the guy next to me can't lift his arms for a week after using the buffer! Frank
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Ted
Well, the votes are in . . .
. . . and POLIGLOW wins by a landslide. ;D ;D ;D Why mess around with anything else? I have 4 years of use on my boat after putting PoliGlow on in 1999! Try that with a wax! Better yet, it is Y2K compliant! Regards, Ted
. . . and POLIGLOW wins by a landslide. ;D ;D ;D Why mess around with anything else? I have 4 years of use on my boat after putting PoliGlow on in 1999! Try that with a wax! Better yet, it is Y2K compliant! Regards, Ted
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