please help, condensate and compression !

Hello guys,Hope you will be able to help me.My Vega is facing wierd compression problem, and i have no idea how to fix it apart of cutting wood off, but i guess that wont solve the problem, and second problem is redicilous amount of condensate, is there any isolation or good tehnique how to make some kind of fabrication around, because sleeping there at evening is imposibble.here is the link of pitctures of compresion and condensate. Postimage.org / gallery - IMG 20140829 181100, IMG 20140829 181122, IMG 20140829 181134 Postimage.org / gallery - IMG 20140829 181100, IMG 20140829 181122, IMG 20140829 181134 free image hosting | image search | report abuse or request deletion Powered by Postimage.org View on postimg.org Preview by Yahoo Thank you for answers..Albin vega 799
 
Oct 30, 2019
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Hi,With the amount of information you've given to work with, here are a few suggestions:Compression: It appears your sagging mast support beam may be the culprit here. Search the Yahoo Vega Group archives for a wealth of information on a fix for that. Here is a good article.Condensation: Condensation is caused by warm inside air condensing on the bare fiberglass of a cool hull. Originally the boat was lined with a foam-backed vinyl material to provide a barrier between the warm interior and the cold hull. From your pictures I see this is gone on your boat. This is common because the foam backing usually turns to dust and the vinyl falls off. You need to line the inside of the fiberglass hull with some kind of insulating material. I used indoor-outdoor carpet available at the local building supply. (Make sure you use a water-based glue to stick it on because a solvent-based glue will stink forever!).Depending on what climate you live in you may need a more insulating material, so do a Google search for "Sailbout Hull Insulation". There is a ton of good info out there. That said, I find the carpet solution more than sufficent for the climate where I live.Hope this helps,Peterwww.mostlyaboutboats.ca
 
Sep 13, 2002
203
re. condensation I completely agree with Peter's response.I've used a cushion vinyl flooring, and condensation is almost nil. The forward facing vertical faces in the forepeak and cabin still gather condensation on a cold evening when sleeping aboard, but it doesn't tend to be a problem .. and that's at 55 degrees north.We sleep with the hatch open a little (resting on the latch, so there's some air movement, but the rain doesn't get in). Ventilators around the boat aren't blocked.If sleeping aboard I always turn the mattresses on their edges during the day for a few hours to let them air, otherwise the edges and base can get very wet.Alisdair
 
Thank you all for fast answers. About wooden parts (located in kitchen) i dont think it would be mast sogging problem, because this spring when boat went in to water i beefed it up with 10mm thick stainless steel arch, but compressing started afterwards boat has been in water, standing rigging definatly isnt too tight. Owerall if i would just cut off the wood, would that help, or just make more space for deck to push in.. about climat, boat is loxated in southern part of Finland(Helsinki) so yes, it does get quite cold :)

Vega 799
 
Dec 11, 2007
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I replaced all the vinyl hull liner during a refit. Used 1/2" foam sheet from a craft store and covered with marine grade vinyl. It did wonders for cooling the boat . Never had any condensation problems.Make shure the factory designed ventilation is still intact.
 
Jan 31, 2009
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My boat relies on the original ventilation system as designed by Per Brohall. Although the boat is normally subject to climatic extremes the boat stays well ventilated throughout the year. I have been tempted to block the mast on occasions to stop wires clattering inside the mast but resisted the impulse so as to keep the airflow up the mast, a key component of the system. The downside being occasional rainwater down the mast.

When the foam backed lining in the cabin turned to dust I scraped it all off and replaced it with the same type of material. I found it easier to fix and more pleasing than the carpeting some people have used.
I must admit that my air intake in the cockpit is permanently open due to corrosion but that has not caused me any problems so far ( I have owned 'Jenavive' since 1983).
Mike
 

n4lbl

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Oct 7, 2008
307
A previous owner filled the mast with styrofoam packing peanuts which I will eventually clean out. They seem to be stuffed in. I'd appreciate any suggestions to aid in their removal.
Alan
 
Apr 2, 2013
283
Alan,Compressed air works pretty good in removing those little suckers. That and a good shop vac, the air looses the foam and the shop vac sucks them away.LarrySent from Windows MailFrom: n4lbl alan.schulman@... [AlbinVega]Sent: ?Monday?, ?September? ?1?, ?2014 ?10?:?34? ?AMTo: n4lbl alan.schulman@... [AlbinVega]




A previous owner filled the mast with styrofoam packing peanuts which I will eventually clean out. They seem to be stuffed in. I'd appreciate any suggestions to aid in their removal.
Alan
 
Apr 2, 2013
283
Hi Mike,I have been looking a at a perforated sheet goods which breaths , it is thin and comes in black. The idea sounds good but waiting on a sample piece to see if it will truly work. I think the carpet would be a problem in the long haul, looks good, but think it will trap a lot of moisture. Not to mention the mold. LarrySent from Windows MailFrom: n4lbl alan.schulman@... [AlbinVega]Sent: ?Monday?, ?September? ?1?, ?2014 ?9?:?17? ?AMTo: n4lbl alan.schulman@... [AlbinVega]




My boat relies on the original ventilation system as designed by Per Brohall. Although the boat is normally subject to climatic extremes the boat stays well ventilated throughout the year. I have been tempted to block the mast on occasions to stop wires clattering inside the mast but resisted the impulse so as to keep the airflow up the mast, a key component of the system. The downside being occasional rainwater down the mast.

When the foam backed lining in the cabin turned to dust I scraped it all off and replaced it with the same type of material. I found it easier to fix and more pleasing than the carpeting some people have used.
I must admit that my air intake in the cockpit is permanently open due to corrosion but that has not caused me any problems so far ( I have owned 'Jenavive' since 1983).
Mike
 

n6ric

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Mar 19, 2010
208
If you want to stop the noise from the wires inside the mast slapping the sides, and still keep the airflow through the mast, you can use zip ties. Every 3 or 4 feet tie the wires together with 4 or 5 zip ties. You will want to leave the long ends on and tighten them so that the ends protrude out in a star pattern. When you pull the wires back up into the mast the ends of the zip ties will rest against the inside walls of the mast, centering the wires, eliminating the banging noise and still allow air flow. And, it's inexpensive. With regard to insulating the hull, I found a beautiful burber indoor/outdoor carpet made from polypropylene that looks great, very insulating and completely waterproof.Rics/v Blue Max#2692www.ric-maxfield.net