Placement of halyard winches on Yam 25 cabin top

[alturaam]

Can any of you felow Yamaha 25 owners explain why the halyard winches on the cabin top (both port and starvboard) are located FORWARD of the jam cleats and not BEHIND? It is not the best sequence to hoist the jib or main using the small winch, only to unwind it and then jam it into the cleat. My J-22 race skipper recommended that I move these small winches forward and move the cleats aft. I just want to get your thoughts on the stock, original arrangement and how it might work for you all.

 

[Boffin]

yes , they are not in a right position, I removed the winch and make the work easy. I don't use the spinnaker very often , so it is ok for me . Besides , the space is a bit tight to accommodate the jam cleats and the winch together .

 

[Syntonos]

Halyard technique

I too thought the arrangement of V-cleats strange when I first got my boat. I've installed a small rope jam (Ronstan 1387) forward of the winch to help with raising the main. I generally don't multi-task the winches I leave the halyards on the winch. As I have a roller furler the Headsail is always on the winch. Learning to trust the V-cleats takes some time. The trick is to toss all your tails down the companion way. The lay of the line ensures they won't release from the cleat. Surprisingly I've never had one come loose.

 

[dee.yeah]

Mine were re-fitted with spinlocks/clutches before the winches, they work just fine!

 

[alturaam]

Thanks all. I wasn't alone in thinking that the winches and/or cleats seemed to be sub optimally located. A cleat or spinlock/clutch forward of the winch is a fine idea and better than moving the whole winch.