RE "gremlins in the bilge". The poster that mentioned the cockpit scupper drains is probably right as on a recent sail bilge was dry so this is probably a rain event after all. If I am correct the poster that suggested that has my undying gratitude. On a another subject. Does anyone have any experience with topside painting with a good brush and either Interlux or West Marine 1 part poly paint. It is reputed to flow out as though sprayed. Thanks, DS
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Peter Wierzbicki
Brightside Works Great
Drexel, Just got my 1975 Catalina 27 back in the water in March, with a new topsides and deck paint job. Used Interlux's Brightside - about two gallons of Pre Kote primer, and two gallons of topcoat. Two coats of each (primer and topcoat). I think this product is best applied with a high density foam roller with an assistant using a good brush to smooth out bulges, bubbles and other immperfections. The results were great! Not a perfect job, but a major improvement over before. Also, probably at half the cost, and Much, Much less labor over two part alternatives - or Awlgrip. Still, it's a messy, labor intensive job. Good luck, and enjoy the beautiful results. PW
Drexel, Just got my 1975 Catalina 27 back in the water in March, with a new topsides and deck paint job. Used Interlux's Brightside - about two gallons of Pre Kote primer, and two gallons of topcoat. Two coats of each (primer and topcoat). I think this product is best applied with a high density foam roller with an assistant using a good brush to smooth out bulges, bubbles and other immperfections. The results were great! Not a perfect job, but a major improvement over before. Also, probably at half the cost, and Much, Much less labor over two part alternatives - or Awlgrip. Still, it's a messy, labor intensive job. Good luck, and enjoy the beautiful results. PW
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Drexel Scott
Brightside works great
Thanks PW. What preparation,other than masking,of course,did you have to do?
Thanks PW. What preparation,other than masking,of course,did you have to do?
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Peter Wierzbicki
Brightside preparation
Drexel, I painted both topsides and deck. The hull and deck were both structurally sound, with only minor dings, chips, and scrapes. No significantly loose or blistered paint. Normal for a 30+ year old boat. 1) Thoroughly clean dirts and grime from the hull/ deck. Plenty of products will do this. 2) Fair the hull to fill in the dings, etc. I used 3 M's Premium filler for several sessions. I bought a 1 Gallon can; have about 1/3 left. This filler covered topsides, and below the waterline, which was much worse for wear. 3) Much sanding to smooth out fairing to hull. 4) Mask everthing you can! This is a sloppy job, especially in a potentially windy boat yard. Remove whatever you can from the deck; stantions (optional), small fittings, all running rigging that could be accidentally painted. If you can, remove the main cabin hatch, as you'll want to paint the "gutters" that the hatch rests in. Went through about 5 rolls of tape between masking for covering and masking for waterline stripes. 5) Two coats of Pre Kote primer, with moderate sanding between coats, and a day's drying time between coats. 6) Finally, two coats of Brightside, with very light sanding between coats. This is the most pleasant stage of the project, but be careful to do an accurate but quick job; paint sets relatively quickly in 60 degree plus weather and with normal humidity. Final comment: The topside is easy, with one vertical surface all the way around the vessel. Decks are really tough; multiple vertical and horizontal planes, and lots of obstructions, and - no where for you to really stand, sit of kneel for long. Good Luck on the long but satisfying project. Peter W.
Drexel, I painted both topsides and deck. The hull and deck were both structurally sound, with only minor dings, chips, and scrapes. No significantly loose or blistered paint. Normal for a 30+ year old boat. 1) Thoroughly clean dirts and grime from the hull/ deck. Plenty of products will do this. 2) Fair the hull to fill in the dings, etc. I used 3 M's Premium filler for several sessions. I bought a 1 Gallon can; have about 1/3 left. This filler covered topsides, and below the waterline, which was much worse for wear. 3) Much sanding to smooth out fairing to hull. 4) Mask everthing you can! This is a sloppy job, especially in a potentially windy boat yard. Remove whatever you can from the deck; stantions (optional), small fittings, all running rigging that could be accidentally painted. If you can, remove the main cabin hatch, as you'll want to paint the "gutters" that the hatch rests in. Went through about 5 rolls of tape between masking for covering and masking for waterline stripes. 5) Two coats of Pre Kote primer, with moderate sanding between coats, and a day's drying time between coats. 6) Finally, two coats of Brightside, with very light sanding between coats. This is the most pleasant stage of the project, but be careful to do an accurate but quick job; paint sets relatively quickly in 60 degree plus weather and with normal humidity. Final comment: The topside is easy, with one vertical surface all the way around the vessel. Decks are really tough; multiple vertical and horizontal planes, and lots of obstructions, and - no where for you to really stand, sit of kneel for long. Good Luck on the long but satisfying project. Peter W.
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Drexel Scott
Brightside preparation
You mention painting the hull. Did you paint the outside of the hull below the deck line? All I want to paint is the area above where the deck is joined to the hull,not the hull itself above the waterline. 2 gallons of paint seems like a lot for just the part of the deck and the cockpit not covered by anti-skid or am I misunderstanding your description.Regards DS
You mention painting the hull. Did you paint the outside of the hull below the deck line? All I want to paint is the area above where the deck is joined to the hull,not the hull itself above the waterline. 2 gallons of paint seems like a lot for just the part of the deck and the cockpit not covered by anti-skid or am I misunderstanding your description.Regards DS
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Peter Wierzbicki
Did Everything
Drexel, I did everything - topside of the hull above the waterline to the deck, and the deck and cabin and cockpit. For what you want to do, 1 G may do it for you. Good Luck, Peter W.
Drexel, I did everything - topside of the hull above the waterline to the deck, and the deck and cabin and cockpit. For what you want to do, 1 G may do it for you. Good Luck, Peter W.
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I just finished painting my hull (hunter 30) from the water line up and used 2 qts. A gallon seems like a LOT! I buy mine at the local boat yard and they will take back unopened qts. Also, I found that using the 333 thinner in the paint makes it flow and flatten much easier. I used a foam roller and just worked it alot, no tipping with a brush. Good luck, Norse
I just finished painting my hull (hunter 30) from the water line up and used 2 qts. A gallon seems like a LOT! I buy mine at the local boat yard and they will take back unopened qts. Also, I found that using the 333 thinner in the paint makes it flow and flatten much easier. I used a foam roller and just worked it alot, no tipping with a brush. Good luck, Norse
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Kevin Winther
Bad Brightside
I used Brightside for the boot top. What a terrible choice. Easily scratched, fenders rubbed paint away. Not durable at all. I just pulled the boat after two years of patching up scratches. I'm gonna strip, and recoat w/awlgrip or perfection. It's been a nightmare!
I used Brightside for the boot top. What a terrible choice. Easily scratched, fenders rubbed paint away. Not durable at all. I just pulled the boat after two years of patching up scratches. I'm gonna strip, and recoat w/awlgrip or perfection. It's been a nightmare!
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William Coulter
Knockdown
There is not a great deal of heavy winds on the lake here in Tennessee, but I am curious about how well a Catalina 22 will handle in heavy winds elsewhere. What kind of winds does it take to knockdown a 22 and does anyone have any stories to share about off shore sailing in a 22
There is not a great deal of heavy winds on the lake here in Tennessee, but I am curious about how well a Catalina 22 will handle in heavy winds elsewhere. What kind of winds does it take to knockdown a 22 and does anyone have any stories to share about off shore sailing in a 22
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