Packing Gland Adjustment

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Jan 4, 2006
262
Catalina 36 MKII Buford, Ga.
I had a successful day yesterday, mostly in part to Mainsail and my local diesel engine mechanic. Over the past months I noticed that my bilge was always wet. More recently it always had 3+ inches of water and the bilge pump sometimes kicking in. This was not typical; my bilge used to be quite dry (deck stepped mast...etc.) :confused:. Sure enough, a week ago, I checked my packing gland and it was dripping once every 3 seconds at the dock with the engine off!!! :eek:

I was determined to fix this myself. I came home and brushed up on Mainsail's packing gland "how to" guidance. I went back to the boat with my tools, removed the access "panel" and went at it. Those of you that are familiar with the C-30 know how small and tight this area is. I couldn't keep a spanner wrench on the female nut and get any leverage (at the same time) on the locking nut with a pipe wrench:redface:...heck, to me the packing nut and the gland (female nut) were so tight, I swore that they couldn't be two seperate pieces...and mine didn't look exactly like the pictures. I applied a little PB Blaster, let it sit, then tried again with no success. Doubt was creeping in...what if I bent the shaft or loosened the nut and had a stream of water coming in ? :eek:. I packed it up and called it quits for the day.:bang: The next day I called my diesel mechanic, he reassured me that those were in fact two seperate pieces. He answered a more questions, then walked me through the process and finally how to tighten the gland while running in gear.

This gets me to yesterday. I went out armed with confidence and a new tool (a Irwin Vice Grip - "GrooveLock Pliers")...nice. I applied a little more PB Blaster, tapped the nuts lightly with a hammer and did other boat projects for 30 minutes. I went back to packing gland, put that vise grip tool on the locking nut and SUCCESS...it backed off easily:D. It was a good opportunity to clean the threads. I tightened down the packing gland until I reached 1 drip per 60 - 90 seconds. Then I fired up the diesel, put it in forward gear and made small adjustments to achieve 2 - 3 drops per minute while running. Boy was I nervous and CAREFUL around that spinning shaft.

In hindsight, it wasn't that difficult. The proper instruction and tools made this a success :thumbup:. I now feel confident enough to change the packing material (if needed) while in the water.
 
Feb 10, 2004
4,235
Hunter 40.5 Warwick, RI
Congrats on your stuffing box adjustment. It really isn't very difficult.

"I now feel confident enough to change the packing material (if needed) while in the water."

Now that's a leap. It probably isn't that difficult either, but make sure you know all the steps by heart and have all the tools and supplies you need BEFORE undertaking such a task.

Welcome to the DIY club!!
 
Dec 9, 2008
426
1980 Hunter 30 "Denali" Seaford, VA
I did it once with the motor running in gear and at one point something slipped and water was coming in pretty fast until I got a grip again and started tightening it again, it was a tight spot, I got super paranoid that I was gonna get myself in trouble and stopped the motor and did it out of gear. It would have been easier if someone else was around. I like to do things when I get home after work, but more than once I have scared myself about getting myself in trouble with nobody able to really help me at those hours. I need to take a look at ours now that you mention it, when running in gear I get quite a bit of water and I haven't adjusted it since I bought it.

Good work! I don't know if I would want to change the packing in the water, but I am hauling next spring so will wait till then I think.
 
Jan 4, 2006
262
Catalina 36 MKII Buford, Ga.
Regarding changing the packing while in the water, note that I did limit my message to say as "if needed". Surely, I would rather do it while hauled out, but that may only come every 4 years or so for me. Mainsail's guide gave me do the tightening, now my hands on experience gives me the confidence to change the packing in the water if needed...with planning and the proper tools (and a good bilge pump)

Like the doctors say, "see one, do one, teach one".
 
Jan 4, 2006
262
Catalina 36 MKII Buford, Ga.
.....I did it once with the motor running in gear and at one point something slipped and water was coming in pretty fast until I got a grip again and started tightening it again, it was a tight spot, I got super paranoid that I was gonna get myself in trouble and stopped the motor and did it out of gear.

Jon, thanks for your feedback...thats exactly what was running through my mind as well on my 1st attempt. I acutally think I increased the drip rate.... so I got concerned and packed it in for the day. Now I'm glad that I went back for round 2.

In hindsight, I believe the slight tapping with the hammer let the PB Blaster get in and do its thing to loosen the locking nut. The 2nd attempt was actually very easy. I did have to turn / tighten the female gland more than expected to achieve the proper drip rate.
 
Dec 9, 2008
426
1980 Hunter 30 "Denali" Seaford, VA
PB Blaster is amazing stuff... when I first did mine (on the old boat) there was no way of getting it loose without some PB Blaster.
 

rfrye1

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Jun 15, 2004
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Hunter H376 San Diego
I too was a DIY on the packing gland for several years. I needed to haulout for bottom paint and made the switch to PSS Dripless (bought it from this site). Should have switched to the PSS Dripless years ago. Now no mess, no fuss.
 

John

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Jun 3, 2006
803
Catalina 36mkII Alameda CA
Did mine as a novice

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Good work! I don't know if I would want to change the packing in the water, but I am hauling next spring so will wait till then I think.
I did mine a few months ago while the boat was in the water. I was a little nervous at first about the water gushing in, but it wasn't so hard of a flow. It must have taken me at least a half hour to get all the old packing out, but once I saw that the bilge pump could keep up with the water coming in, I stopped worrying.

I think the main problem is mental - the fear of doing something that will allow water to start coming in.
 

jtm

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Jun 14, 2004
314
Hunter 28.5 Dataw Island, SC
"Rigid" makes(made?) a nicely shaped wrench with adjustable flat jaw that has a ~30 degree angled handle allowing good positioning in the packing area. Fitted onto the Nut , one solid whack (not too hard) on the handle and you are loose. I had borrowed it from a yard but can't find it in stores to buy my own. This is a great tool but is tough to find.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
"Rigid" makes(made?) a nicely shaped wrench with adjustable flat jaw that has a ~30 degree angled handle allowing good positioning in the packing area. Fitted onto the Nut , one solid whack (not too hard) on the handle and you are loose. I had borrowed it from a yard but can't find it in stores to buy my own. This is a great tool but is tough to find.
Plumbing supply houses will have it. They are smooth jawed so they don't tear up soft brass nuts or chrome plated brass plumbing..
 
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