WHAT SIZE OBM DOES A CAT 22 NEED..?? I WILL BE SAILING IN SALT H2O COASTAL AREAS WHERE TIDES RUN 6 KNOTS IN THE BACK CREEKS AND RIVERS AND MORE ON OCEAN INLETS. ELECT START VS. PULL START..?? WHAT BRAND ENGINES ARE THE BEST......?? SANTA WANTS TO KNOW WHAT I "NEED" FOR CHRISTMAS...!!
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John
Outboard Motor Size for C-22
I acquired a 1976 C-22 back in 1998 that came with a 1988 two-stroke Johnson 9.9HP Sailmaster long-shaft outboard motor. After some work on it, it was fine for the sailing I did on the Chesapeake in the general vicinity of Annapolis and the Bay Bridge. I once considered buying a 1986 C-22 that had a four-stroke 5HP outboard that seemed to be fine for that boat. I have been told that you can actually go down in HP with a four-stroke and still get the same performance you would from a higher HP two-stroke. I'd go for 8-10 HP for the area you will be in and I'd get a four-stroke. I would definitely get a long shaft motor. Electric vs. pull start is your choice. I don't know enough about the brands to offer a recommendation.
I acquired a 1976 C-22 back in 1998 that came with a 1988 two-stroke Johnson 9.9HP Sailmaster long-shaft outboard motor. After some work on it, it was fine for the sailing I did on the Chesapeake in the general vicinity of Annapolis and the Bay Bridge. I once considered buying a 1986 C-22 that had a four-stroke 5HP outboard that seemed to be fine for that boat. I have been told that you can actually go down in HP with a four-stroke and still get the same performance you would from a higher HP two-stroke. I'd go for 8-10 HP for the area you will be in and I'd get a four-stroke. I would definitely get a long shaft motor. Electric vs. pull start is your choice. I don't know enough about the brands to offer a recommendation.
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patrick
power
I had a 9.9 (2 stroke) on my H25 and it was about right. I too sail in extreme tides and did some motoring in some nasty weather. Granted my boat was a tad bigger and fairly heavy for her size. Its nice to have the power in reserve though plus you end up using less fuel and saving wear and tear as you motor at a lower throttle setting.
I had a 9.9 (2 stroke) on my H25 and it was about right. I too sail in extreme tides and did some motoring in some nasty weather. Granted my boat was a tad bigger and fairly heavy for her size. Its nice to have the power in reserve though plus you end up using less fuel and saving wear and tear as you motor at a lower throttle setting.
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R Kolb
Watch the weight
I had a Honda 4 stroke 8hp on my C22. I recently sold it to go smaller and lighter with a 3.5 hp 2 stroke (28 lbs). I am in a lake so tht is OK for me. In strong currents I think the Honda 8 would have been a terrific motor. Started every time, quiet and powerful. The downside is it weighed about 90 lbs and that is a lot to have hanging off the transom if you don't need it. I suggest that you look for one of the lighter 4 strokes around 6-8 hp and definitely long, or extra-long, shaft. Randy
I had a Honda 4 stroke 8hp on my C22. I recently sold it to go smaller and lighter with a 3.5 hp 2 stroke (28 lbs). I am in a lake so tht is OK for me. In strong currents I think the Honda 8 would have been a terrific motor. Started every time, quiet and powerful. The downside is it weighed about 90 lbs and that is a lot to have hanging off the transom if you don't need it. I suggest that you look for one of the lighter 4 strokes around 6-8 hp and definitely long, or extra-long, shaft. Randy
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Bob B.
Outboard Power Thruster??
Has anyone out there used the Power Thruster on their outboards?? The advertisment for this gizmo claims that it will provide better fuel economy, better acceleration, steering etc. Does this mean more usable HP at the prop. For those not familiar with this, it partially encloses the propeller & directs the water flow better. Bob B.
Has anyone out there used the Power Thruster on their outboards?? The advertisment for this gizmo claims that it will provide better fuel economy, better acceleration, steering etc. Does this mean more usable HP at the prop. For those not familiar with this, it partially encloses the propeller & directs the water flow better. Bob B.
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Derek
1980 C22 with 6HP Yamaha
I have a C22 with an electric start 6 HP (2stroke) Yamaha and its GREAT! I really dont think that anything more powerfull will do any good, in that the 6HP ets you up to max. hull speed. I would suggest finding a two stroke. Reason being that 1. They are much lighter than the four strokes and can be more easily taken on and off for a dingy etc. Also, 2. I really dont think that the transom of the boat is hearty enough to put up with the added weight of the new four strokes. I am sure it will handle it short term, but I would pay close attention to what the gel coat around the motor bracket, if you decide to go that route.
I have a C22 with an electric start 6 HP (2stroke) Yamaha and its GREAT! I really dont think that anything more powerfull will do any good, in that the 6HP ets you up to max. hull speed. I would suggest finding a two stroke. Reason being that 1. They are much lighter than the four strokes and can be more easily taken on and off for a dingy etc. Also, 2. I really dont think that the transom of the boat is hearty enough to put up with the added weight of the new four strokes. I am sure it will handle it short term, but I would pay close attention to what the gel coat around the motor bracket, if you decide to go that route.
C22 HP
Ken: My 1975 C22 has a vintage Honda 100 (9.9hp 4 stroke). Its definitely more HP and weight than needed. Its elec. generator is good for battery charging though. It starts well without elec. starter. I think the Cat. Assn. requires at least 4 hp for being legitimate in their racing regattas. If I were buying a new OB, 4-6 hp would be adequate. Four stroke is presumably best for starting and fuel economy, while two stroke is less weight on the transom. Some places preclude two stroke because of supposed water pollution. Dick
Ken: My 1975 C22 has a vintage Honda 100 (9.9hp 4 stroke). Its definitely more HP and weight than needed. Its elec. generator is good for battery charging though. It starts well without elec. starter. I think the Cat. Assn. requires at least 4 hp for being legitimate in their racing regattas. If I were buying a new OB, 4-6 hp would be adequate. Four stroke is presumably best for starting and fuel economy, while two stroke is less weight on the transom. Some places preclude two stroke because of supposed water pollution. Dick
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Nick C
C-22 Outboard Size
Ken: I owned a Catalina 22 a few years ago and my 6 horsepower two stroke Evinrude pushed it around fine. Keep in mind, while extra horsepower is nice, how your back will feel as you are leaning over the transom to pull the motor (or replace it) for maintenance during the season, at your slip or mooring. A 9.9 hp motor will weigh considerably more.
Ken: I owned a Catalina 22 a few years ago and my 6 horsepower two stroke Evinrude pushed it around fine. Keep in mind, while extra horsepower is nice, how your back will feel as you are leaning over the transom to pull the motor (or replace it) for maintenance during the season, at your slip or mooring. A 9.9 hp motor will weigh considerably more.
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tom b.
Originally my boat when i bought it used it....
had a 2hp 2stroke motor on it. um.. lets just say it got me out of the marina at lake mead. it had its own tank on top of it, which was quite small. Unfortunatly, it died. Fortunatly, it died.. Actually the water pump quit, so when it got hot it literally... died. Since then I have gotten a 9.9hp 2stroke. ummmph. that thing wieghs lots more. I think I'll sell it and go for something around a five or six hp. Huffin it up to the motor mount takes some doing for me.Not only the weight but it is kinda awkard to move around. My understanding is that since it is a 2 stroke motor, after disconnecting the fuel line, there really isn't anything left in the motor and lying it down in the back of the car is no problem. I don't know much about outboards, but I believe with a 4 stroke, you still have oil in it that could leak out onto whatever you are transporting it with. Is there also gas left in the motor after disconnecting the fuel line??
had a 2hp 2stroke motor on it. um.. lets just say it got me out of the marina at lake mead. it had its own tank on top of it, which was quite small. Unfortunatly, it died. Fortunatly, it died.. Actually the water pump quit, so when it got hot it literally... died. Since then I have gotten a 9.9hp 2stroke. ummmph. that thing wieghs lots more. I think I'll sell it and go for something around a five or six hp. Huffin it up to the motor mount takes some doing for me.Not only the weight but it is kinda awkard to move around. My understanding is that since it is a 2 stroke motor, after disconnecting the fuel line, there really isn't anything left in the motor and lying it down in the back of the car is no problem. I don't know much about outboards, but I believe with a 4 stroke, you still have oil in it that could leak out onto whatever you are transporting it with. Is there also gas left in the motor after disconnecting the fuel line??
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R Kolb
4 strokes don't leak
Tom B, I had a Honda 4 stroke which I would lay down in my vehicle. It would not leak fuel or oil. There was a specific side to lay it on so that it wouldn't put stress on the control arm. Randy
Tom B, I had a Honda 4 stroke which I would lay down in my vehicle. It would not leak fuel or oil. There was a specific side to lay it on so that it wouldn't put stress on the control arm. Randy
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Bob
2 stroke solution
Ken - I have a 2 stroke 7.5 horse Evinrude long shaft that came with my boat (Ericson 23 that displaces 3300). This summer I replaced it with a 5 hp Mercury single, simply because the Mercury weighs 14 lbs less and I race my boat and wanted to lose some weight in the back, especially since the boat tends to "squat" under way. The E'rude has plenty of power, pushing the boat at hull speed (6kts) at about 2/3 throttle in calm water. It is smoother than the Mercury, and has been very reliable, starting 2nd or 3rd pull in season, 5th or 6th after the winter. It is also for sale - check the "gear here" listings. I would strongly recommend this size and and brand for your application - you can't beat it for value.
Ken - I have a 2 stroke 7.5 horse Evinrude long shaft that came with my boat (Ericson 23 that displaces 3300). This summer I replaced it with a 5 hp Mercury single, simply because the Mercury weighs 14 lbs less and I race my boat and wanted to lose some weight in the back, especially since the boat tends to "squat" under way. The E'rude has plenty of power, pushing the boat at hull speed (6kts) at about 2/3 throttle in calm water. It is smoother than the Mercury, and has been very reliable, starting 2nd or 3rd pull in season, 5th or 6th after the winter. It is also for sale - check the "gear here" listings. I would strongly recommend this size and and brand for your application - you can't beat it for value.
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bill
c22 power
we have a 1981 cat22 and it came with a 1981 chrysler 2 stoke long shaft with a 3 blade prop and it pushes it a around 8-9 mph,and only uses 1 gallon a hour,it has a electric starter but i use a rope,if you get a 2 stroke moter it should be 9.9 h/p and with a alternator ,2 cycle is better for cost and weight,if you have tides to deal with then you whant the power,up to you,enjoy
we have a 1981 cat22 and it came with a 1981 chrysler 2 stoke long shaft with a 3 blade prop and it pushes it a around 8-9 mph,and only uses 1 gallon a hour,it has a electric starter but i use a rope,if you get a 2 stroke moter it should be 9.9 h/p and with a alternator ,2 cycle is better for cost and weight,if you have tides to deal with then you whant the power,up to you,enjoy
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