Well I did it. My drop my mask uncontrolled. The jib halyard slipped through the mask furler and hit the mask crutch and bounced hard. The bad thing was the mask raising pole was hooked up and connected to the chain locker clip. So it bent and ripped the foot of the mask were it protrudes into the mask. The mask looks straight but there is a bad bend and rip at the foot of the mask where the hole for the mask raising pole goes. The hole is elongated and ripped at the top. Does anyone know if this kind of mistake can be fixed and how or do I have to purchase a new mask? I will contact my insurance agent to see if they cover stupidity. :-( Any help with this would really be appreciated. Man what a way to start the season. Bummer. Carl S/V Wind Shadow
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Insurance companies insure stupidity.
Carl: That is what insurance companies insure against, is stupidity (also known as accidents). If you have something like water intrusion they don't cover it. We had some guy/gal in our marina that ran their engine out of oil and got a new engine for that. There is a company in the bay area that should be able to replace the spar for you(cannot remember their name). The insurance company will probably be able to hook you up with someone. I'd jump on this ASAP so you can get your MAST replaced before the season really starts up.
Carl: That is what insurance companies insure against, is stupidity (also known as accidents). If you have something like water intrusion they don't cover it. We had some guy/gal in our marina that ran their engine out of oil and got a new engine for that. There is a company in the bay area that should be able to replace the spar for you(cannot remember their name). The insurance company will probably be able to hook you up with someone. I'd jump on this ASAP so you can get your MAST replaced before the season really starts up.
Re: Bad Weekend
Should be insured, but mast repair is possible. Let your insurer take a look. If you don't have hull coverage, I suggest you have a rigger AND a yard look at it. Riggers tend to do a lot of relacing and not much repair, but yards are more adept at repair IMHO. Probably has something to do with riggers getting a lot of insured dollars and yards less. If worse comes to worse, there are salvage places that might have a mast. Repost if it comes to that. Good luck, Rick D.
Should be insured, but mast repair is possible. Let your insurer take a look. If you don't have hull coverage, I suggest you have a rigger AND a yard look at it. Riggers tend to do a lot of relacing and not much repair, but yards are more adept at repair IMHO. Probably has something to do with riggers getting a lot of insured dollars and yards less. If worse comes to worse, there are salvage places that might have a mast. Repost if it comes to that. Good luck, Rick D.
Sorry Carl
Carl, Sorry to hear it. Can't do much from this end of the country so I hope your insurance works out. Let us know what happened. r.w.landau
Carl, Sorry to hear it. Can't do much from this end of the country so I hope your insurance works out. Let us know what happened. r.w.landau
Do it quickly!
Don't hesitate -- make it happen now! Disengage dawdle mode, cause if you wait till the sailing season picks up you may miss the whole season. I speak from experience. We once lost a mast in July and tried to get a replacement in August through a French company. All of France goes on vacation in August -- the French name for the month is where everyone is "Aout" (pronounced OUT).
Don't hesitate -- make it happen now! Disengage dawdle mode, cause if you wait till the sailing season picks up you may miss the whole season. I speak from experience. We once lost a mast in July and tried to get a replacement in August through a French company. All of France goes on vacation in August -- the French name for the month is where everyone is "Aout" (pronounced OUT).
Hey George...
Hey George -- you dont have time for this -- go run the country, and try to get me some of my own money back now rather than 7 years down the road. Duane
Hey George -- you dont have time for this -- go run the country, and try to get me some of my own money back now rather than 7 years down the road. Duane
Mast
Carl; I have read all the comments and your description. Most riggers, yards and dealers will not try to repair a mast for fear the integrity of the mast has been sacarficed. Further, should any repairs be made and something should happen, they like I would not want that exposure. The hole in the base of the mast is probably beyond what I would consider a comfortalbe repair. Should your insurance company have any question, call Hunter and get my phone number. I use to be an adjuster way back when so I know the issues involved. As for your Z-Spar mast, US Spars has the replacement parts and mast for your boat and their phone number is 904-462-3760. I have seen jury rigged repairs on too many masts and I have seen the results of damage following the repairs. That is why I will not repari masts other than to replace them. Crazy Dave Condon
Carl; I have read all the comments and your description. Most riggers, yards and dealers will not try to repair a mast for fear the integrity of the mast has been sacarficed. Further, should any repairs be made and something should happen, they like I would not want that exposure. The hole in the base of the mast is probably beyond what I would consider a comfortalbe repair. Should your insurance company have any question, call Hunter and get my phone number. I use to be an adjuster way back when so I know the issues involved. As for your Z-Spar mast, US Spars has the replacement parts and mast for your boat and their phone number is 904-462-3760. I have seen jury rigged repairs on too many masts and I have seen the results of damage following the repairs. That is why I will not repari masts other than to replace them. Crazy Dave Condon
Photo's in forum of mast
I posted photos of what the mast raising hole looks like if anyone is interested. I had to scale down the shot because of the size limit on the site. If someone want full shots email me at windshadow@prontomail.com and I will send them along. They are pretty impressive. I still can't believe it happened. I checked the transome where the mast crutch sits and it looks sound. This is a very strong boat at the seams. Is there any other way to check other than a visual inspection. Carl S/V Wind Shadow
I posted photos of what the mast raising hole looks like if anyone is interested. I had to scale down the shot because of the size limit on the site. If someone want full shots email me at windshadow@prontomail.com and I will send them along. They are pretty impressive. I still can't believe it happened. I checked the transome where the mast crutch sits and it looks sound. This is a very strong boat at the seams. Is there any other way to check other than a visual inspection. Carl S/V Wind Shadow
Pictures Help
Carl, I am sorry to hear and see your problem. I looked at my mast and it looks like the damaged part on your mast is about one foot from the bottom of the mast. As a quick fix, and if the base fitting is sound, I would cut off above the damaged area and reinstall the base fitting. Before the reinstallation of the base, I would have a reinforcement plate fabricated for the gin pole and installed at the proper distance from the bottom of the mast. Reroute the mast wires, and install the mast base. All this should not be done before you contact your insurance company. A new mast is really what you want, but maybe the above fix will get you sailing until it arrives. Your boom will be quite a bit lower so be sure it clears the cabin top. All this is speculation on my part and worth about what you are paying for this advise. Good luck. Bob S/V Gravyboat
Carl, I am sorry to hear and see your problem. I looked at my mast and it looks like the damaged part on your mast is about one foot from the bottom of the mast. As a quick fix, and if the base fitting is sound, I would cut off above the damaged area and reinstall the base fitting. Before the reinstallation of the base, I would have a reinforcement plate fabricated for the gin pole and installed at the proper distance from the bottom of the mast. Reroute the mast wires, and install the mast base. All this should not be done before you contact your insurance company. A new mast is really what you want, but maybe the above fix will get you sailing until it arrives. Your boom will be quite a bit lower so be sure it clears the cabin top. All this is speculation on my part and worth about what you are paying for this advise. Good luck. Bob S/V Gravyboat
jury rigged measurements
Bob, after looking at Carl's photos and reading the other responses, your idea of cutting off the damaged area strikes me as useable in an at sea emergency, but I would worry about any other application. The stays would have to be adjusted to the new mast hight, and I presume that will mean cutting them and installing new terminals. I expect the lowered center of effort would not cause any problem, but luff length on your headsail, and head clearance on your boom (funny about that name) might cause other problems. I think I would agree that the best solution is to get your insurance claim expedited, and offer your services as crew for your friends until your new mast arrives. Happy sailing. Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo
Bob, after looking at Carl's photos and reading the other responses, your idea of cutting off the damaged area strikes me as useable in an at sea emergency, but I would worry about any other application. The stays would have to be adjusted to the new mast hight, and I presume that will mean cutting them and installing new terminals. I expect the lowered center of effort would not cause any problem, but luff length on your headsail, and head clearance on your boom (funny about that name) might cause other problems. I think I would agree that the best solution is to get your insurance claim expedited, and offer your services as crew for your friends until your new mast arrives. Happy sailing. Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo
Carl, Jim is correct.
The temp fix I suggested is a real jury rig and requires new standing rigging. After more thought, I would expect that the cost of new rigging would make this a poor choice unless you need a sailing fix and just can't wait for your new mast. Good luck with the insurance company and to a quick recovery. Bob S/V Gravyboat
The temp fix I suggested is a real jury rig and requires new standing rigging. After more thought, I would expect that the cost of new rigging would make this a poor choice unless you need a sailing fix and just can't wait for your new mast. Good luck with the insurance company and to a quick recovery. Bob S/V Gravyboat
MAST in the works
My insurance company is going for a new Mast with all the rigging and setup by a rigger. Now I only have to wait 8 WEEKS to get it made and shipped maybe 10 by then. Hunter was very helpful and has gone the extra mile to help out as best they can. Many thanks to very one who posted a responce. Especially CRAZY DAVE for pushing the new mast imparative with his experience. There is nothing like talking to the guys and gals that know what their talking about from experience. Thanks again, now just the long wait. Maybe by June I will be on the water. Carl S/V Wind Shadow on the hard for awhile :-(
My insurance company is going for a new Mast with all the rigging and setup by a rigger. Now I only have to wait 8 WEEKS to get it made and shipped maybe 10 by then. Hunter was very helpful and has gone the extra mile to help out as best they can. Many thanks to very one who posted a responce. Especially CRAZY DAVE for pushing the new mast imparative with his experience. There is nothing like talking to the guys and gals that know what their talking about from experience. Thanks again, now just the long wait. Maybe by June I will be on the water. Carl S/V Wind Shadow on the hard for awhile :-(
Good deal
Carl, I am glad to hear your mast is coming. There is no reason you can't motor for a month or so. It ain't sailing but at least your on the water. r.w.landau
Carl, I am glad to hear your mast is coming. There is no reason you can't motor for a month or so. It ain't sailing but at least your on the water. r.w.landau
Brother, we feel your pain!
I got my 26 about a year ago. I keep it in a slip and never lowered the mast but plan on doing so soon for maintenance. According to the manuel the jib halyard is supposed to be cleated on the mast. My cleat is on the starboard side. Is that what slipped? Thanx alan P.S. I have Isomat spars and it's a '94
I got my 26 about a year ago. I keep it in a slip and never lowered the mast but plan on doing so soon for maintenance. According to the manuel the jib halyard is supposed to be cleated on the mast. My cleat is on the starboard side. Is that what slipped? Thanx alan P.S. I have Isomat spars and it's a '94
Use a safety line next time!
We always attach the main haylard forward to the bow as a safety should something let go!
We always attach the main haylard forward to the bow as a safety should something let go!
More Trials and Tribulations
Well as it turns out the boat I have has had its Mast replaced at least once before. The one on my boat is a ISOMAST and not the stock Z-SPAR that was shipped with the boat. I guess the boat wanted its original mast back and I had nothing to say about it. I guess the lesson to be learned is don't piss off your boat or do a more thru rough job of checking when you buy a boat, its history might be of interest. Only nine weeks till I am back in the water or I guess I could sail my sons Hobie when the water warms up. Nah to much work for this old body that sits in a chair all day. Carl S/V Wind Shadow on the hard :-b
Well as it turns out the boat I have has had its Mast replaced at least once before. The one on my boat is a ISOMAST and not the stock Z-SPAR that was shipped with the boat. I guess the boat wanted its original mast back and I had nothing to say about it. I guess the lesson to be learned is don't piss off your boat or do a more thru rough job of checking when you buy a boat, its history might be of interest. Only nine weeks till I am back in the water or I guess I could sail my sons Hobie when the water warms up. Nah to much work for this old body that sits in a chair all day. Carl S/V Wind Shadow on the hard :-b
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