OT: AOL users take note

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Phil Herring

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Mar 25, 1997
4,924
- - Bainbridge Island
One more reason to leave AOL: "AOL recently announced what amounts to an "email tax." Under this pay-to-send system, large emailers willing to pay an "email tax" can bypass spam filters and get guaranteed access to people's inboxes--with their messages having a preferential high-priority designation." Not only does this conflict with the spirit of the internet, but AOL is, in effect, selling people the right to spam you.
 
Dec 2, 2003
4,245
- - Seabeck WA
Every disk they've sent me for the last twenty

years goes in the same place, including todays rendition; The garbage.
 
Jul 17, 2005
586
Hunter 37.5 Bainbridge Island - West of Seattle
They are also worthless as coasters, just like AOL

any drip from your wet drink drips right off onto your table or floor.
 
Jun 7, 2004
944
Birch Bay Washington
Cm'on guys

Aol is not worthless. You can string the disks up and scare the birds off your boat!
 
Jul 17, 2005
586
Hunter 37.5 Bainbridge Island - West of Seattle
Patrick, you are right.

I wonder if the birds will ignore the shiny CDs, or just poop on them. ;d
 

jimq26

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Jun 5, 2004
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CD Disks are great mirror reflectors!

At the suggestion of our local Coast Guard during my last inspection, I now keep a couple of those nice shiny discs next to my emergency equipment. They make great reflectors during daylight hours if there is a search on for you. The little hole in the middle acts as a sight for you as well.
 
Aug 2, 2005
374
pearson ariel grand rapids
aol disks

I always just write not at this address on them, then drop them back in the mail box. At least when they used floppies you could re-use them! Haven't realy managed to figure out a good use for the cds yet, but the little boxes they send some of them in are great pencil boxes. and some of them come in dvd type cases which are nice for burned cd/dvd that you want to keep some paper work with. Ken.
 
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mike

do people really use aol????????

i thought everyone wised up and bought broadband, i didnt think people used that waste anymore!!!
 
Aug 3, 2005
181
Morgan 33 O/I Green Cove Springs FL
The disks are Good

radar reflectors, That's what they be!!! and beyond here there be Dragons ARRRRRRrrrrrgh! Cap'n Dave
 
Jul 17, 2005
586
Hunter 37.5 Bainbridge Island - West of Seattle
Jimq26: emergency mirror, great idea.

I think I will take a few of my dead CDs to the boat, put it in the ditch bag, and use it for just that. Thanks for the great hint. Now, what do I do with the rest of them, the other 999 of them?
 
Aug 1, 2005
84
Beneteau J-Boat Huntington, NY
hmm ...

Sounds like this email fee is doomed, unless the email companies get a major public relations campaign going. I would never have guessed it would be seen in this light. I am not in the email industry, but follow it well. The concept was to set a tax, so high, that no illigitmate company could afford it ( a few cents per email would be enough I guess). The tax would be low enough that companies that need to ligitametly mass mail (e.g. have you as a paying customer) would view the tax still cheaper then getting something to you snail mail, e.g. sending bills, etc. that would cost even more money to print on paper. I had looked forward to this concept dropping my spam big time, and enabling my business to send email on my own to groups of 100 or more without using a third party. (right now if I used my primary email server, and just one person presses the "this is email button", the major providers may elect to block my entire email server. Oh well ... If AOL and other companies lose customers (does anyone use AOL email anymore ???), then the whole idea will die and the spammers win ... but no worries, very bright people are working to make spam a thing of the past, maybe their next idea will work.
 
Aug 2, 2005
374
pearson ariel grand rapids
aol spam

Some AOL adds seem to indicate that they have broad band. as for spam, as long as someone is willing to pay people will be sending spam, the only recourse is to charge and convict the people who are paying to advertise, spammers don't do it for the fun of it, and no business is going to spend money on an add campaign without knowing where that money is going, or what is being done in return. If they did then hell, I'd be making my millions putting tiny little bumper stickers on my truck at $1000. per square inch. ken.
 
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Bob

Interesting reply Anchor Down

AOL CD"s are about as hard to get rid of as old flares. And the good part is that there is plenty of them for various projects.
 
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Brian

Not so fast

Just to make sure you have the facts, this came from Snopes.com and it isn't just AOL... few points about some facets of this scheme that are often misrepresented: Referring to the proposed system as one which will implement an "e-mail tax" is inaccurate and misleading. No one is proposing that end users — ordinary AOL and Yahoo subscribers — be charged for sending or receiving e-mail. AOL and Yahoo are proposing to assess a cost-of-business surcharge to companies who want to ensure their commercial messages reach the inboxes of AOL and Yahoo subscribers instead of being diverted to trash folders by filters already in place to trap unsolicited commercial e-mail (better known as "spam"). E-mail senders who opt not to pay the surcharge will not be prevented from sending messages to AOL and Yahoo subscribers. Their messages will simply continue to pass through the same spam filters both AOL and Yahoo have had in place for years. The notion that non-commercial or non-profit on-line groups will be priced out of existence by being required to "pay thousands of dollars for every email message sent" is unfounded. Nobody is proposing that such groups' messages be blocked, or that they be handled any differently that they are now. Yes, such messages will have to get past spam filters before they're delivered, but that's already the case, and it has been for a long time. On the last point, we can speak from experience as an organization that has long sent out weekly free mailings to a very large subscriber base (and our mailings are particularly susceptible to being filtered out as spam or fraud attempts, because much of what we write about are the very same hoaxes, scams, and frauds that are being circulated via e-mail). Many, many e-mail providers (not just AOL and Yahoo) have long had in place filters to trap or strip e-mail sent to large numbers of recipients or containing external web links and embedded images (because those features are hallmarks of spam and fraud). The best way for AOL and Yahoo subscribers to ensure that our mailings reach them is to be sure to designate our address in their accounts as an acceptable e-mail sender, an option that will not be changing ("As is the case now, mail arriving from addresses that users have added to their AOL address books will not be treated as spam"). We have on occassion had problems with some e-mail providers (including AOL) mistakenly flagging our newsletters as spam and blocking them entirely; usually a single e-mail or phone call is sufficient to clear up the problem. Of all the Internet providers we've dealt with in this regard, AOL has far been the most polite, responsive, and easy to deal with. (Some critics maintain that legitimate messages from non-surcharge-paying companies with whom subscribers already do business — such as order confirmations or notifications of special deals) could get flagged as spam and sent to trash folders, especially since subscribers can't necessarily anticipate the return address such messages will be sent from in order to authorized them in advance — but again, it's already the case that such messages are subject to spam filtering. The AOL/Yahoo scheme merely offers companies an option for avoiding an existing problem. Last updated: 23 February 2006
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
It should not be the responsibility ...

Of the recipient to have to ensure legitimate addresses are in their address book. It should be the responsibility of the sender to ensure that the contents of the email does not contain verbiage that can be misconstrued as "spam" by the spam filters. I recently ordered parts from Defender.com. I never received a confirmation the parts were shipped. They claim they sent the email and suggested that I include their email address in my mail client. My email server does not work that way. Defender needs to check the contents of their emails to ensure there is nothing in the email that will be tagged as “spam”.
 
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Mike

try this

All of the companies who send unsolicited mail sometimes include a prepaid return envelope in the packet. Just seal the thing and drop it in the mail empty. That way the sender; AOL or any other company pays for the postage but gets nothing else out of it. Not even a demographic. Sinister, eh?
 
Feb 15, 2005
81
- - Island Harbor Marina, Palm Harbor FL
Microwave

Microwave a CD on high for 5 seconds or so; makes a great light show! But beware, they also stink like crazy! Jack
 
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