Ostentatious terms

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Jim

I have noticed that some new sailors sound like Herman melville when the speak of sailing and boats. An example of this, I think, is using the term "She" or "Ship" instead of boat. I know "She" is traditional, but really now, it is an inanimate object after all. So here is my question. Do you refer to you boat as "It" or "She"? :)
 
Dec 2, 1999
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Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
You gotta be kidding.

Jim: Of course she is 'she'. The only things that are dearer to my heart are 'she', my wife, 'she' my daughter and 'she' my ship.<g> Any other questions.
 
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Peggie Hall/HeadMistress

Why a boat is called "she"

The Roman Goddess of Navigation was Minerva, and since Roman times all boats have been deemed feminine in her honor. But there are other reasons, according to a friend of mine: Because she's often surrounded by a great deal of bustle. Because it takes a lot of costly paint and polish to keep her looking good. Because if the initial cost doesn't break you, you'll be done in by the upkeep. Because she responds better to a firm but loving hand. Because she shows off her topsides, hides her bottom, and can be observed running around between various buoys. Because when she is old and tired, even though she may become a reluctant crank and a creaking old hulk, there will still be some who will recall her in her prime. And because as long as she has life and vitality, and keeps her good name, she will always find men to love her, to serve her, and see that she gets home safely. It's rarely NEW sailors who "sound like Herman Melville," it's real sailors who love and respect their vessels, as well as the sea and its traditions.
 
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Doug Rodrigues

Terms?

My boat has a name, but I always refer to it as "The Boat," or "The sailboat." That's all it is....a boat. Interesting how various owners perceive their boats to be something almost alive. Just my view as someone who doesn't fit into the "Real Sailor" catagory......
 
Dec 2, 1999
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Jeff, you not only right....

Jeff: You are not only right, you are damn right. That is why 'she' goes first on the list.<g>
 
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Peggie Hall/HeadMistress

Correct terminology isn't ostentatious

It demonstrates knowledge. For instance, wouldn't you be a bit skeptical about flying with a pilot who didn't use flight-specific terminology? Or about hiring a home builder who didn't use building industry language? How professional would you consider a violinist who doesn't use musical terminology or the right names for the parts of his instrument? All occupations and specialties have their own language and terminology...and sailing is no different.
 
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Bob Todd

I couldn't refer to mine as a she...

Because it's responsive, doesn't give me any problems, and isn't tempermental. Cheers, Bob
 
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Debra B

Eschew Obfuscation

Jargon (in all fields) usually stems from a desire to "get it right." Port and Starboard are a perfect example. (Turn left! No, your other Left!) The goal should be to communicate clearly in an emergency, or in any situation. How fast should you go in an "Idle Speed" zone? Bare Steerage Way should be maintained. You should avoid jargon to just confuse the lubbers... or to inflate your own ego. (As in the title... Avoid Complicating Terminology!)
 
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R.W.Landau

Couldn't agree more Peggie!

I love that post Peggie. My wife named the boat. Exhibit "A". Not because I am a lawyer, but because she was protecting her position in my life. Every time I look at my boat, "EXHIBIT "A" " is in 6" letters. It remindeds me that if I put that boat before my wife, She (the boat) will be EXHIBIT"A" in my divorce with she,my wife. I don't think you can properly feel the stresses and fine tuning that she requires unless you seek to feel how she feels. If you are not sensitive to how she feels, it could all come crashing down on you. Let see was I talking about the boat or my wife? r.w.landau
 
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Guys - look at the web site

Every reference to a sailor in the web site Jim posted is "he" . . . . So if "he" is the sailor, why is there an argument about "she" being the boat . . . . ??? <grin>
 
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Justin - O'day Owners' Web

Anthropomorphism

I don't know a lot of sailers who don't think of their boats as something almost alive - or even fully inbibed with soul. Sure - its an annoying piece of plastic when you're slapping down funds for maintenance and storange in the middle of winter but who among us has not talked to his or her boat in moments of crisis with the absolute exepectation that the boat would understand and respond? I know I have - come on baby, hold that anchor - or my favorite - come on baby, its a Sabre, lets get there before it. Justin - O'day Owners' Web
 
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Justin - O'day Owners' Web

RW -

Managed to change computers without transferring my address book sucessfully. Drop me a note, would you? Address changed since the last one: jandrus@alumni.bates.edu Justin
 
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Read the Website Peggy <grin>

Now Peggy, do remember that I didn't identify the related link website, so don't kill the messenger. If its in print, it must be true. <grin> Kindest regards to Peggy . . .and my wife who is usually at the helm . . . and all the other wonderful sailing ladies who I have offended purely in fun. <grin> Will I see you at the Chesapeake again, Peggy?
 
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Peggie Hall/HeadMistress

I'll be there again this year

I was REALLY delighted to be invited back for a 3rd time...'cuz Of all the events I've gone to, the "Back to the Bay" Hunter Rendevous are by FAR the most fun. I've also been asked to help out on the race committee for the regatta again...and if I can find a partner who's good at rowing blindfolded, I'll be his "navigator" in the dinghy race. I love the webpage at the link you posted, btw...I copy/pasted it into in a Word.doc to keep for future use.
 
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Chuck Wayne

"she"

hear hear! At least you put them in the right (ie Safe!) order! :)
 
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Gerry

Boats, Ships and She

About boats and ships. Being an x-Navy sailor tradition has it on refering to a vessel, a boat can go on a ship but a ship can not go on a boat. It is mainly in reference to the size of the vessel. Unless someone out there has a destroyer or aircraft carrier I believe we all have "Boats". Another interesting bit of information is that on many old sailing vessels their were figure heads of women on the bow of the ships for good luck. This figure was the ships and crews protector and therefore ships were commonly refered to in the feminine.
 
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