Origo 4000 Install

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Oct 19, 2009
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MacGregor 1995 26S Fort Walton Beach, FL
I am thinking about installing an Origo 4000 in my counter where the table top is. I have the setup with the sink next to the wall. Has anyone made this modification? I already have a single Origo 5100 but I really want the two burners and a permanent setup. Thanks, -david
 

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Oct 21, 2010
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Macgregor 26S, "Myuna" Brisbane, Australia
I have installed the Origo 4001 with 2 pot holders, although my galley has the sink nearest the centreline of the boat . Very, very happy with it as a stove. Did the benchtop cut out with a 2mm blade in my 100mm angle grinder - piece of cake. I could not fit a 1mm blade on my grinder, although that may even do a faster job - the difference is probably not worth worrying about as it was only half an hours worth of work to put masking tape on the cutting line and do the cutting.

Hope I am not telling you the obvious, but just make sure to use a respirator and goggles and place lots of damp sheets around the area to cut down on dust.
 

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Jun 25, 2012
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hunter 356 Kemah,the Republic of Texas
Cruiser1 said:
I have installed the Origo 4001 with 2 pot holders, although my galley has the sink nearest the centreline of the boat . Very, very happy with it as a stove. Did the benchtop cut out with a 2mm blade in my 100mm angle grinder - piece of cake. I could not fit a 1mm blade on my grinder, although that may even do a faster job - the difference is probably not worth worrying about as it was only half an hours worth of work to put masking tape on the cutting line and do the cutting.

Hope I am not telling you the obvious, but just make sure to use a respirator and goggles and place lots of damp sheets around the area to cut down on dust.
If you can get someone to hold the end of a shop vac hose near the blade while cutting that helps a lot. If you don't have help just duct tape the vac hose to the cutting tool you are using.
 
Nov 23, 2011
2,023
MacGregor 26D London Ontario Canada
Take the cushions and pretty much everything out of the boat first. You are going to make a BIG mess. Once you grind or cut any fiberglass it's everywhere. I would use a jig saw to keep the particulate size a bit bigger rater than a grinders fine dust.
Then call Molly Maid. Let someone else clean it up! You should probably provide masks and gloves. 2 hours and it's a new boat!
 
Oct 21, 2010
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Macgregor 26S, "Myuna" Brisbane, Australia
Take the cushions and pretty much everything out of the boat first. You are going to make a BIG mess. Once you grind or cut any fiberglass it's everywhere. ......................
Yes, the fine dust does make a mess - and yes a vaccum cleaner near to the cutting edge does help a lot. What I did when cutting out for the stove was move all the bunks and other gear down into the rear births and close all that area off with bed sheets and masking tape - didn't take long and well worth the effort and saved lifting all the gear out of the boat and back in.

I found cleaning the area between the hull lining and the hull was the most time consuming, although lots of wet rags and old bed sheets in there stopped the dust moving around a lot.
 
Oct 19, 2009
81
MacGregor 1995 26S Fort Walton Beach, FL
Do you have any pics...

Cruiser1,

Do you have any pics of the install? Also, did you brace the cutout area afterwards?

I found a new, in the box Origo 4000 on Craigslist so it looks like I have a new project for the winter.

thanks,
david
 
Oct 26, 2005
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Oct 21, 2010
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Macgregor 26S, "Myuna" Brisbane, Australia
Cruiser1,

Do you have any pics of the install? Also, did you brace the cutout area afterwards?

I found a new, in the box Origo 4000 on Craigslist so it looks like I have a new project for the winter.

thanks,
david
Hi BrokeNotBroken, you have lucked in for Xmas:). I have just taken my stove out in order to do some electrical, plumbing and rigging work in behind it - best way to get at things. Have attached a photo of the hole cut out for the stove and of course there is a photo in my earlier posting of the stove installed.

I did not reinforce the fibreglass edges at all, apart from putting a fibreglass support plate under the pulley assembly for the keel rope - decided I needed to spread the strain in this area a bit. I think from memory it was about 1-1 1/2" wide by 4" long. One day I may put a long aluminium angle bracket under there, but that will probably a bit of overkill.

Edit: Put down good quality gaffer tape to draw the cut-out lines on and had not gelcoat chips at all. I use Nashua Tape Products GAFFER’S 357 (comes in black, pewter & off white/cream) 48mm wide x 40m long - out here it is relatively expensive, but really good tape at times when it counts.

With the pot holders on my stove I had to replace the holder bracket bolts with smaller bolts to get the lid to close properly - I use bolts 0.19" (5mm) diameter and 10mm long measured from under the head. Used a variety of small threaded bolts with nuts and self tapers to hold the stove onto the fibreglass - had to use the self tapers on the rear areas I could not get to from underneath.

Hi Merlinuxo, I have heard the same good report from many owners who have tried jigsaws, angle grinders and various brands of Multitools such as yours. I have actually purchased one some months ago in order to do some cutting out in the front bunk area - still have not gotten around to that job - such is the life of owning yachts:cry:.
 

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Oct 8, 2008
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MacGregor/Venture 25 Winthrop Harbor, IL Drummond Island,MI
Merlinuxo.....how was the itch factor using that oscillating tool? I used a jigsaw that had the adjustable blade angle gizmo. Fair results on the cut, but good results on the non itch factor. The jigsaw has limits with tight places though.
 
Oct 26, 2005
2,057
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The dust and particles just drop. The motor cooling vents don't face towards the working end to blow stuff around and the blade doesn't sling anything.
I've used a jig saw with the base taken off to get in tight but like this better. Take a look at the offset in the pic below. You can get flush with another surface, like the hull or overhead.
These are cheap copies of Fein Multimaster. I've had mine for about a year and used it for a variety of things and if it breaks I'll get another just like it.
 

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Oct 8, 2008
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MacGregor/Venture 25 Winthrop Harbor, IL Drummond Island,MI
Thanks Merlin.......a new Harbor Freight just opened up down the road......now have a reason to check it out.
 

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Jan 31, 2009
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Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
Thanks Merlin.......a new Harbor Freight just opened up down the road......now have a reason to check it out.
We bought the HF one and I've used it a little and like it for some situations. I'll still use the jigsaw if it will work in the location. Haven't used it a lot, so can't say about how it holds up,

Sum

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Oct 19, 2009
81
MacGregor 1995 26S Fort Walton Beach, FL
I was planning on using a rotozip tool, anyone have any luck with these? I've never cut fiberglass before.

-david
 
Oct 26, 2005
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I have and it works. A little challenging to run a straight cut. Not a lot of dust.
Some might wonder why the Morgan guy is hanging around the Mac forum- you guys always have the best projects and forum participation!
Thanks for making SBO an interesting place to hang out.
 
Nov 23, 2011
2,023
MacGregor 26D London Ontario Canada
A RotoZip will make a big mess. I use them to cut out plug boxes in new drywall and it is messy! Lots of dust.
It is just a hand held router. It has lots of tork and twist and is hard to keep in a strait line free hand.
(Here is how I use one to cut out plug boxes. First of all push all the wires back into the box as far as possible. Measure to the center of the box from 2 sides. Mark the board. Hang the board with a few screws 3-4 (right over the box.) Place screws as far away from the box as possible when hanging. Take your rotozip and cut into the marked spot. brig it to one side until it hits the box. Lift it out a bit to get over the side and to the outside. Keep it tight to the outside of the box and cut around it. The board will drop in and fit nicely. Finish screwing the board on. I start near the box.) If you are doing this over head use at least 12 or more screws to hold the board up securely.
 
Oct 19, 2009
81
MacGregor 1995 26S Fort Walton Beach, FL
...but, I think it was totally worth it in this case. The Origo 4000 fits perfectly in the recess under the galley table. I have to think the recess was created specifically for this stove. The install went pretty well. I made a wood jig so that I knew the stove would fit once the hole was cut. I also drilled a hole in each corner of the cutout for stress relief so that the corner wouldn't tend to crack. I need to go back and sand the cut a little and permanently mount the stove but here are a few quick shots I took today before it got too dark to continue working. I did not reinforce the cutout area and probably won't either.

Now I just need to get 2 flame diffusers for the stove and a couple of pot holders and I will be good to go. BTW, I kept hearing that these alcohol stoves are slow to heat but I put 4 cups of water in my kettle and heated it on an Origo and it too 8:45 to boil whereas it took 8:15 to boil on my house gas range. Go figure.

Anyway, I am super excited. I have an Origo 1500 that I kept having to store somewhere on the boat and now I no longer have to worry about it. Looks like I'll be selling it on Ebay.

-david
 

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Oct 21, 2010
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Macgregor 26S, "Myuna" Brisbane, Australia
Nice work David - you won't regret the effort. Like you I have no complaints about the length of time it takes to cook anything on my Origo. We tend to do a lot of our cooking from scratch on the boat ie. I don't use too much pre-prepared stuff - love my bacon, eggs & toast in the morning. Mind you I go sailing to relax so it does'nt much matter how long it takes me to do anything - life is a journey not a destination :):)
 
Oct 26, 2005
2,057
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Thumbs up to David for the great install and to Cruiser for the perfect "cruiser" attitude!
The stove looks like it was made for just that spot.
 

Kestle

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Jun 12, 2011
702
MacGregor 25 San Pedro
I love my 3000, and suggest you get the pot holders too. Hot water is handy when it's cool out. Quick coffee/tea/wash/etc. Admiral love it too.

Jeff
 
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