Oil pumps for engine oil replacement

ArkadiyS

ArkadiyS

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Oct 28, 2013
129
Hunter Legend 35 Fairfield, CT
I am looking for good recommendations on an oil pump for replacing engine oil on a in-board diesel. It does not have to be automatic, just something that will allow me to suck out the oil from the M25 diesel into a canister. Looking for an inexpensive way to have a tool that will be used for many years.
 
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IStream

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Nov 14, 2013
200
Catalina 50 Seattle
For about $70 you can get one of those manual suction pumps. I've got one by Moeller and it works well. Here's a Mityvac brand:

http://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7400-...d=1391741735&sr=8-3&keywords=oil+suction+pump

Looks similar to the Moeller but I've got no experience with this brand.

If you want to go deluxe, get a nice Marco pump like this one for $160:
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/marco-mat-m164-220-12-m164-220-12

Marco makes bigger/faster models but they cost more.

For an integrated solution that's portable, you can spend $250 on one of these:
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/jabsco-porta-quick-oil-changer-kit-with-bucket-17800-2000

If money's no object, get one of these:
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/reverso-pump-gp3010-series-oil-change-system-2-valve-gp3012-12v
 
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Eddie7045

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Aug 16, 2006
281
Ericson 32 Oregon coast
I had one similar to the one

in the Amazon link. I got it at West Marine. Probably the same thing. It worked well for me. I could easily suck out all the oil in the crankcase in about 3 minutes. The pump also served as convenient container that I could take directly to the recycling station. I only had to secure it upright while transporting it full of oil.
 
DougM

DougM

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Jul 24, 2005
2,242
Beneteau 323 Manistee, MI
I bought a drill driven pump from somebody like Northern Tool for all of about $10. Fitted some plastic tubing to the input side to fit down the dipstick tube. It works. I figured even if I had to replace it every couple of times it made more economic sense than buying one of the more expensive specialized types. It takes up less storage space too. Even though oil is combustible it's not as volatile as gasoline or other flammable fuels and not very likely to ignite even though the labeling on the pump advises against using with flammable liquids. (There is a difference between "combustible" and "flammable").
 
Chris Patterson

Chris Patterson

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Oct 17, 2011
2,809
Ericson 29 Southport..
I use one of those Moeller pumps. Defender has it. Wonderful piece of sucking machinerie..

(Used it countless times. Brilliant).
 
31seahorse

31seahorse

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Aug 2, 2005
1,155
Pearson 33-2 & Typhoon 18 Seneca Lake
Hello ArkadiyS,
Several hand operated pumps and electric pumps are available thru ebay: Seachoice for about $24 with free shipping, Marine/RV with brass body for about $22.50 including shipping, a plastic body pump (orange color) called a Syphon for about $12.85, and an inexpensive 12V electric pump by Seadog for around $20 plus $15 shipping.

In the hand-held options above the operator needs to be skilled enough to hold the pump body, operate the handle action, keep the tube in the bottom of the oil reservoir, keep the outlet tube in the catch container, and keep the container upright. I found that I did not have enough hands to accomplish all those functions!

The 12V electric pump eliminates the "holding and the pumping" requirements, but I found the leads for attaching to the batteries to be too short. Adding length to them was no problem, but I did not have the appropriate wire available the first time I wanted to use the pump. Of course a nearby hardware store or WM could help with that change.

These pumps also require the operator to supply his/her own empty container with a lid that closes securely to avoid depositing the used engine oil in the back seat area of the family vehicle!
 
Chris Patterson

Chris Patterson

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Oct 17, 2011
2,809
Ericson 29 Southport..
Yucch. Hell, no wonder nobody changes oil with experiences like that. Here is the procedure for changing oil with the Moeller pump.

Stick suction tube in hole.
Pump 16 times.
Fire up huge tater while watching the oil flow smoothly into its OWN container, while thinking of the money somebody is going to pay me for this.
Pour oil out of container later when I sober up enough to do it.

If I didn't have to change the filter, my hands would stay clean and I could wear a suit.

I think I need to find some of these morons that think leaving a filter on through a few oil cycles is okay..
 
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wufibugs

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Aug 16, 2009
1,000
Hunter 1986 H31 California Yacht Marina, Chula Vista, CA
I understood that using a length of metal tube in the dipstick hole was preferable to flexible tubing that might curl and not reach the bottom of the pan. I use a cheap electric pump I got on ebay, possible one Seahorse referred to. Jury rigged a stopper for my tubing into empty milk cartons so it's hands free.
 
Mark Maulden

Mark Maulden

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Jan 25, 2011
2,435
S2 11.0A Anacortes, WA
I use a Pela 6000 oil extractor. It's a vacuum type. comes with literally everything needed to go down dipstick hole. Got it for $40 at an auto parts store. It's a 6 qt container which is just right for a sailboat engine. Its a round container and won't tip over. I can even store it onboard if I want to.
www.pelaproducts.com
 
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koolfrog

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Dec 20, 2009
38
allied seabreeze san diego ( mission bay)
Grey Beard pumps....Super reliable and inexpensive !
Slow but work forever , can run dry without damage...
I used one for several years on my boat and my cars.
 
Chris Patterson

Chris Patterson

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Oct 17, 2011
2,809
Ericson 29 Southport..
That West model is a rebranded Moeller. I use the bigger one, sometimes I do big motors. (I may talk later about these twin turbo 1000hp. Cats I've been dealing with. Two of them). LOTS of oil. No the moeller won't touch it. Wish it would. Good pumps, despite whose name is on it. Though I may be inclined to scrape west's name off of it..

That Pella 650 is the same pump I use, except it's forty dollars cheaper at Defender. Same pump. Different name. More money. Let me think about this for a second..
 
Davidasailor26

Davidasailor26

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May 17, 2004
5,543
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
We had some old fancy brass transfer pump for about 25 years. This fall when I tried to use it the seals had failed and it wouldn't prime. In a rush I went to the nearest auto parts store and got a $10 orange plastic pump and a couple different hose adapters. Worked great. I bought it figuring it was worth a shot to use once, but it worked better than the old fancy one. Fast, easy pulling, and no leaks. Even if it doesn't last forever, at the price I wouldn't mind replacing it every couple years.
 
centerline

centerline

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Mar 20, 2012
3,983
Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25 Salem, Oregon
Chris Patterson said:
Yucch. Hell, no wonder nobody changes oil with experiences like that. Here is the procedure for changing oil with the Moeller pump.

Stick suction tube in hole.
Pump 16 times.
Fire up huge tater while watching the oil flow smoothly into its OWN container, while thinking of the money somebody is going to pay me for this.
Pour oil out of container later when I sober up enough to do it.

If I didn't have to change the filter, my hands would stay clean and I could wear a suit.

I think I need to find some of these morons that think leaving a filter on through a few oil cycles is okay..
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I agree completely!! any of the pella style suction pumps work great... several companies use the same pump and just stick their brand name on it, (napa sells them also) but for anyone who is still using an electric or drill operated transfer pump with an additional container, and messy tubes to change their oil, I will bet their oil changes are not as timely as they should be because they are dreading every oil change that comes due:cussing:

I do not endorse a specific brand name, but I do recommend the style of the pella pumps shown... and get one big enough to suck all the oil out of the engine at once. its not difficult or messy to empty it, but for the price difference, the convenience is well worth the cost:). AND you carry all the oil away in the same container you sucked it into from the engine. its quick and clean.

as Chris alluded to, after running and warming the engine a bit, you only need to remove the dipstick, stick the small stiff suction tube in, and pump the handle a few strokes... in about a minute the warm oil is all in the waste reservoir and you are ready to add new oil.... the messiest part is changing the filter. (or when you spill the new oil while pouring it in):D
 
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Chris Patterson

Chris Patterson

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Oct 17, 2011
2,809
Ericson 29 Southport..
Well, again I am a moron. I'm sitting here going through my notes for something else, and discovered that my pump is a Marpac. I think several companies put their names on them. The smallest of tubes that goes into the dipstick hole has a piece of wire in it to prevent it from kinking. Either or, cool pump. Bear in mind I change more oil than my own..
 
weinie

weinie

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Sep 6, 2010
1,297
Jeanneau 349 port washington, ny
I've been through 2 of the jabsco/westmarine electric pumps in the last few years. Stay away from this.

It takes for ever to pump, even with the oil nice and hot. Also, you have to cut the hose shorter or it won't pump at all.
The pump has clogged on me when I used it on waterlogged snowblower.
The hose has kinked and they wont sell a replacement by itself.
The plastic air vent cover broke off and was lost.
It's also easy to tip over (ask me how I know this).


I just bought the Moeller after seeing Mainsails video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvv7b6jtJwY

I haven't seen something so well constructed in a long time.
Never thought I'd say this, but I can't wait to change my oil next fall!
 
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