I need to make some velcro stick to the non skid in my cabin but it needs to be removable at some point. Trying to avoid glue type adhesives. I've been eyeballing 3M 4910. Thoughts? Suggestions?
Oh no, not that sticky!
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What are you trying to secure? The problem with nonskid is the lack of surface area, the tape will stick to the high points of the non-skid but probably not reach the low points, that should make it easier to remove sooner or later.
For a rug, look at a non-skid pad for a throw rug. Cheap, easy, no adhesives.
For a rug, look at a non-skid pad for a throw rug. Cheap, easy, no adhesives.
Well technically 5200 is removable but it's not easy and it often causes damage...
I'm installing some composite flooring that I found at the yard. I have some H channels that need to be semi secured to the cabin sole. I was thinking some sort of velcro so I can access the bilge if needed. H channels will help to hold the flooring in place
I'm installing some composite flooring that I found at the yard. I have some H channels that need to be semi secured to the cabin sole. I was thinking some sort of velcro so I can access the bilge if needed. H channels will help to hold the flooring in place
I'd be more inclined to permanently glue the flooring to the sole with cutouts for bilge access. Glue the flooring to the access boards. Easy access to the bilge is important.
Yep. Horrible stuff. But I am afraid your reply may start another debate. A joke possibly gone wrong.
Any photos of the stuff? I am curious what the final result will be.
There is a blog post someplace with someone installing adhesive EVA flooring in his sailboat.
That would most likely entail using a substrate to attach the flooring to
See attached. The flooring is broken up into three sections for easy removal. The H channels will be between the sections. I'll probably end up getting some J channels for the outer edges. The channels will need to be removable for bilge access and cleaning
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Looking forward to the final result.
3M makes automotive adhesive tape that is meant for trim, that handles water etc. Not sure how well it would work on nonskid, but I think it might work well albeit expensive.
I know you say you don't want an adhesive... An adhesive may work if it bonds just well enough for normal loads but will peel away when required. On small sections instead of the whole flooring piece.
Some composite flooring is hard to get anything to stick to. Roughing up the surface should help.
I would be tempted to take some scrap pieces and do a test on a cabin sole nonskid mockup.
Another option is to call a local flooring installer. They may have some suggestions.
3M makes automotive adhesive tape that is meant for trim, that handles water etc. Not sure how well it would work on nonskid, but I think it might work well albeit expensive.
I know you say you don't want an adhesive... An adhesive may work if it bonds just well enough for normal loads but will peel away when required. On small sections instead of the whole flooring piece.
Some composite flooring is hard to get anything to stick to. Roughing up the surface should help.
I would be tempted to take some scrap pieces and do a test on a cabin sole nonskid mockup.
Another option is to call a local flooring installer. They may have some suggestions.
Hmmmm
I've recently started using this tape...
Originally I was hanging photos to a tile wall but I have started finding uses for this stuff all over the place. It is mushy like butyl tape but clear and sticky. And you can remove it with your finger nail. It might be worth a try. If it does not work, toss the excess in a junk drawer and you will find a use for it eventually.
I've recently started using this tape...
Originally I was hanging photos to a tile wall but I have started finding uses for this stuff all over the place. It is mushy like butyl tape but clear and sticky. And you can remove it with your finger nail. It might be worth a try. If it does not work, toss the excess in a junk drawer and you will find a use for it eventually.
Hehe... Makes me wonder if it is similar to the 3M stuff, but cheaper.Ah! I see Gorilla also makes a 5200 version...
Both are worth a test IMO
The gorilla does look like a 3M knockoff. I'm actually using a lot of gorilla tape to hold the planks together. I'll add some epoxy at the edges when The project is nearly completed.
This flooring is made to snap together without any adhesives. The foam backing helps keep it from moving. I'm essentially emulating wood trim with the channels
I'm going to order some of Gorilla tape. Interestingly enough amazon has some listed as "used"
This flooring is made to snap together without any adhesives. The foam backing helps keep it from moving. I'm essentially emulating wood trim with the channels
I'm going to order some of Gorilla tape. Interestingly enough amazon has some listed as "used"
I'm going to order some of Gorilla tape. Interestingly enough amazon has some listed as "used"
For anyone else that's interested in installing similar flooring...
The sole of the cabin is rarely flat. In the corner of my boat it's a significant angle. I was able to make cuts 90% of the way through the flooring, apply some tape over the cut and then snap it by hand. This is essentially scoring and breaking. What's left holding the plank together after breaking is a thin layer of vinyl and adhesive. If these thin layers are bent back and forth enough, a line will form. The tape helps keep it from over bending and flopping back and forth. The foam backing on the flooring stretches a bit which allows it to bend even with the tape applied
The sole of the cabin is rarely flat. In the corner of my boat it's a significant angle. I was able to make cuts 90% of the way through the flooring, apply some tape over the cut and then snap it by hand. This is essentially scoring and breaking. What's left holding the plank together after breaking is a thin layer of vinyl and adhesive. If these thin layers are bent back and forth enough, a line will form. The tape helps keep it from over bending and flopping back and forth. The foam backing on the flooring stretches a bit which allows it to bend even with the tape applied
Can someone help me with the math here ?
I'm told on the package that it holds 1 pound for every 2 inches of tape. So, if I'm applying a 6 inch long piece of tape, that means it only holds 3 pounds ? Definitely not the best idea for holding carpeting in place. And watch out for stiff breezes if that's all it holds. Maybe what they meant to say is "1 pound per in²" ? Still easily the worst tape on the market.
And furthermore, if I wanted to make use of the full 60 pounds holding power (as advertised), I guess I'd have to apply a piece of tape 120 inches long. Might look a trifle odd stretched across the wall.
Looks like you don't even need a grade four reform school education to get into advertising
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I'm told on the package that it holds 1 pound for every 2 inches of tape. So, if I'm applying a 6 inch long piece of tape, that means it only holds 3 pounds ? Definitely not the best idea for holding carpeting in place. And watch out for stiff breezes if that's all it holds. Maybe what they meant to say is "1 pound per in²" ? Still easily the worst tape on the market.
And furthermore, if I wanted to make use of the full 60 pounds holding power (as advertised), I guess I'd have to apply a piece of tape 120 inches long. Might look a trifle odd stretched across the wall.
Looks like you don't even need a grade four reform school education to get into advertising
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Hmm. That appears correct.
The image above shows a 120 inch roll which "Holds up to 60 lbs"
On their website, the 60 inch roll states "Holds up to 30lbs".
Good marketing... Make the details accurate, and the product seem better than it actually is.
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"Oops! We made a mistake but thanks for handing over your hard earned cash anyways!"
I have to agree, they are accurate in that half the roll only holds half the load.
This whole label is so bizarre, I felt utterly compelled, yes, I said compelled to write these guys and ask for an explanation. I strongly suspect they're using real gorillas to write this stuff and if so, I'm sure the SPCA will have something to say about that regarding minimum pay, rest breaks, bathroom breaks, etc, etc. Writer questions can only be entered in a small field on their web site so I've copied my questions and pasted here :
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Gentlemen,
Could you please help me to understand your calculations behind "Gorilla Heavy Duty Mounting Tape". Number work was never my strong point.
I see that Gorilla Heavy Duty Mounting Tape is advertised as being able to hold up 30 pounds as shown below in the file Gorilla 60 in.jpg. This shows the tape will hold 1 Pound per 2 in. So, if I apply a 6 inch piece of this tape to the wall, it will hold a weight of 3 pounds. Is that correct ? And if I want to take advantage of the tape's full ability to hold up to 30 pounds (as shown on the label) I would have to use a 60 inch piece of tape ? Wouldn't that look odd taped across a wall. I also see in the upper left hand corner that this tape bonds permanently to materials such as Plastic, Wood, Metal, Glass, Brick, Ceramic, Stone & More !
I hope you'll pardon me for being even more confused but if the tape holds 1 Pound per 2 in, and my 6 inch piece of tape will only hold 3 Pounds, wouldn't a gentle 3 pound nudge remove the tape ? That is hardly a permanent bond.
I would appreciate your clarification of these figures.
Thank you.
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Let's see what their idea of clarification holds.