O'day 37 Deck Delamination

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Nov 24, 2007
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I have just purchased a 1979, 37ft O'Day The survey results indicate that 45 sq.ft.of the deck is delaminated. Has anyone found this in their 37? Could this be a manufacturing defect or age related? I have been told that the 37 is bult like a tank, with a combination Plywood and balsa core. Anyone with more information will be appreciated Thanks Bryan
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
It's age related

My 32 which is the little sister to the 37 has some soft spots caused from water getting under the deck and rotting the balsa core and I also had to replace the plywood under the cockpit cause water got to that and it was a pile of soft wet crap. The method to deal with delaminated decks is to cut open and remove the rot and install new core then redo the deck.
 

Jim V

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Jul 24, 2006
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Oday 26 Clinton Lake, Kansas
Replacing balsa cores

Rad is right. It is not a fun job. Years ago we cut the inner hull out of a class C racing Scow and replaced the balsa core with cedar wafers. Whatever you do if you use a thermal catalyst bonding system (ie epoxy) be sure to do it in small batches. Too much at one time will generate a heat that you wouldn't believe. You could actually melt/deform the section you are working on. Be sure to cut until you get to good core material. If you don't get all the spores cut out it will just continue to destroy the core beyond your repair.
 
Jun 8, 2004
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Oday 35 Toronto, Ontario
O'Day 3

I bought a moisture meter and checked out my O'DAY 35 as I had some leaks. I found that there were many places where it indicated the deck was saturated. The largest was on the starboard side about 5 feet long. After I pulled the boat out a month ago I started a procedure I found on the internet on how to repair it. First you drill 1/2" holes all over the infected area, let it dry out then inject CPES to treat it and then fill the holes. I've drilled the holes and will let it dry out until spring before continuing. I then plan to redo all the deck hardware to prevent further leaks.
 
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Denise

you bought a boat knowing

it had $oft decks?? Hope it wa$ cheap! There was an artical somewhere about injecting penetrating epoxy from the underside. The other option is to cut out the deck, replace the rotting core and redeck. Theres a place in FLA that sells everything you need to do the job. matching gel coat, core, even the non-skid patterns. Mini-craft.com I think it is. Good luck!
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
Denise,

Where was that article? I have thought long and hard about this and besides having a finished cabin liner covering the underside of the deck there is the problem of gravity working against you while tring to inject the epoxy. There was a great article in one of the recent magizines about redoing the nonskid decking and I thought if you just removed small sections in the non skid area only and pushed core material and epoxy under the deck might work.
 
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Denise Oday30

Rad

I don't remember. "this old boat" maybe? Don Casey? Sounds awful difficult. The guy used a grease gun to actually pressurize the epoxy into the holes from the underside. when the epoxy ran out another hole he had the saturation he needed?
 
Jun 8, 2004
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Oday 35 Toronto, Ontario
Yes new non skid

Rad, Yes I plan to replace the non-skid after to cover all the sins. Here is the article I'm referring to on how to do it: http://www.boatbuilding.net/index.pl?issue=20051025&mode= its the one called: How To Repair Core Damage in Fiberglass Boats
 
Sep 15, 2006
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Oday 27 Nova Scotia
Deck delamination issues

Bryan - ANYWHERE hardware is fastened to,or thru, a cored deck, cabin roof etc there will eventually be some moisture getting into the core. On more expensive boats this problem is addressed to some degree : the technique is called "potting" and it involves removing some of the core adjacent to the fastening hole and injecting a thickened mixture of epoxy, then re-drilling the hole for the fastening when the epoxy has cured. The new hole will be passing thru the epoxy plug and moisture will be unable to get into the core to cause damage. Obviously this adds to the production costs and is not something apparent to potential buyers, so lower cost boats like O'Days skipped this detail. Apparently Hinkley's and other boats in that cost bracket do this during production, which is one reason why they're so much more expensive. After the boat is built and the cabin liner, cabinets etc are in place it may be difficult to access some of the areas to effect repairs, but for the most part it can be done though it's a labour intensive business that may require a fair amount of ingenuity. The material costs are minimal, but if you're paying to have the work done it can run into a lot of $$$. Even the best of caulking or bedding material will eventually allow some moisture to get into the core over time.
 
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Jason

water in deck

I too had some delaminaion in my 37 decks. The water was coming in around the ports and running down into the decks. The stock ports are not thru-bolted and are sandwiched between the outer and inner liner. I filled the hollow area with epoxy before replacing the ports. Water also gets in around the chain plates and grab rails. So, before you fix your decks, you must first fix your leaks!
 
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