Have just purchased a 1980 O'Day 28. In the bilge just aft of the mast but centered in the bilge there is a fitting that appears to be a seacock connected to the typical 1 1/2" white ribbed hose. The hose leads forward and goes to the area under the head. Does anyone know where it leads and what its function is. I have just packed stuff forward prior to shipping so can't really trace it. Is this a shower drain? What concerns me is that it is not a closeable seacock but appears to be a direct lead overboard. Why no seacock here? And isn't the keel itself directly under this point? The head outlet is a hard connection forward to the holding tank. Can anyone shed some light on this, please? -Ron
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Bob
Manual Bilge Pump
Ron, This is the inlet hose to the manual bilge pump. The pump itself is on the aft end of the cockpit, and the discharge is through the center of the three white thru-hulls on the transom, directly above the engine exhaust port. The hose snakes forward to the mast, turns under the starboard berth, and makes it's way aft to the transom. It does not need a seacock because it does not go through the hull. The bilge end of the hose seems to be connected to a fitting that is screwed to the bottom of the bilge. You are correct that it is directly above the keel. It's a good idea to make sure the discharge side hose is in good shape. While you're at it, you should also check your cockpit drain hoses, which discharge through the port and starboard fittings on either side of the exhaust port. The originals can rot and break, which can cause flooding through the transom fitting in a following sea. The bilge pump hose is much more solid. Congrats on your purchase and welcome to the site! The 28 is a well made and solid boat, I'm sure you'll enjoy her. I have a 1980 as well, hull # 196. Bob s/v Simple Dreams Chicago
Ron, This is the inlet hose to the manual bilge pump. The pump itself is on the aft end of the cockpit, and the discharge is through the center of the three white thru-hulls on the transom, directly above the engine exhaust port. The hose snakes forward to the mast, turns under the starboard berth, and makes it's way aft to the transom. It does not need a seacock because it does not go through the hull. The bilge end of the hose seems to be connected to a fitting that is screwed to the bottom of the bilge. You are correct that it is directly above the keel. It's a good idea to make sure the discharge side hose is in good shape. While you're at it, you should also check your cockpit drain hoses, which discharge through the port and starboard fittings on either side of the exhaust port. The originals can rot and break, which can cause flooding through the transom fitting in a following sea. The bilge pump hose is much more solid. Congrats on your purchase and welcome to the site! The 28 is a well made and solid boat, I'm sure you'll enjoy her. I have a 1980 as well, hull # 196. Bob s/v Simple Dreams Chicago
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Mike
Bob is correct
Hi Ron: Bob is right that you are looking at the pick up for the manual bilge pump located in the cockpit. The electric/automatic pump should be just aft of that fitting. Welcome to the 28 O'day. You'll enjoy this solid well layed-out boat. And hello to you Bob. Mike S/B Pitterpat, Lake Huron
Hi Ron: Bob is right that you are looking at the pick up for the manual bilge pump located in the cockpit. The electric/automatic pump should be just aft of that fitting. Welcome to the 28 O'day. You'll enjoy this solid well layed-out boat. And hello to you Bob. Mike S/B Pitterpat, Lake Huron
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Bob
Hey Mike...
About those cockpit drain hoses, have you (or any other 28 owners) noticed a tendency for the starboard side fitting through the cockpit floor to bind against the wall of the aft starboard locker? I've had to replace this fitting twice because it has snapped in half, which allows the cockpit to drain into the bilge. Thinking of trying a different solution next time. Bob s/v Simple Dreams Chicago
About those cockpit drain hoses, have you (or any other 28 owners) noticed a tendency for the starboard side fitting through the cockpit floor to bind against the wall of the aft starboard locker? I've had to replace this fitting twice because it has snapped in half, which allows the cockpit to drain into the bilge. Thinking of trying a different solution next time. Bob s/v Simple Dreams Chicago
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Frederick Pierce
Hi Ron Congregations
Hi Ron Ilive over on Barters Isl. and I HAD 3 ODAYS And now I have a 28 oday 1985 for 4 years I keep it over southport Boothbay Region Boatyard Being so close I could give some ideas and together with you Call me any time my phone is 663 7532 I have been here over 11 years Frederick Pierce.
Hi Ron Ilive over on Barters Isl. and I HAD 3 ODAYS And now I have a 28 oday 1985 for 4 years I keep it over southport Boothbay Region Boatyard Being so close I could give some ideas and together with you Call me any time my phone is 663 7532 I have been here over 11 years Frederick Pierce.
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Frederick Pierce
Hi Ron Congregations
Hi Ron Ilive over on Barters Isl. and I HAD 3 ODAYS And now I have a 28 oday 1985 for 4 years I keep it over southport Boothbay Region Boatyard Being so close I could give some ideas and together with you Call me any time my phone is 663 7532 I have been here over 11 years Frederick Pierce.
Hi Ron Ilive over on Barters Isl. and I HAD 3 ODAYS And now I have a 28 oday 1985 for 4 years I keep it over southport Boothbay Region Boatyard Being so close I could give some ideas and together with you Call me any time my phone is 663 7532 I have been here over 11 years Frederick Pierce.
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Ron Richardson
Thanks for bilge pump feedback
Mike & Bob: Thanks for now making its function clear. I'll check the cockpit drains tomorrow. FYI - I've just finished replacing the original portlights (cracked and yellowed) with Becksons. Also added a custom dodger and bimini + adding a Schaeffer Profurl furler. Just bought the boat here in Key Largo and will ship in April to Maine. The only other work to be done is replace the mast boot prior to commissioning in Maine. -Ron
Mike & Bob: Thanks for now making its function clear. I'll check the cockpit drains tomorrow. FYI - I've just finished replacing the original portlights (cracked and yellowed) with Becksons. Also added a custom dodger and bimini + adding a Schaeffer Profurl furler. Just bought the boat here in Key Largo and will ship in April to Maine. The only other work to be done is replace the mast boot prior to commissioning in Maine. -Ron
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Mike
I'll check it out
Bob: No I haven't noticed that the starboard cockpit hose scupper tends to break, but I'll take a good look at mine this spring. You aren't stuffing the transom fitting with rags to keep birds or insects out thus freezing it and causing it to burst are you? Probably not but I had to ask. I have to reinstall my rudder this spring while I'm laying back there I'll take a digital photo for you so you can compare your set up with mine. Maybe the hoses are different diameters or have different wall thickness. Regards, Mike Pitterpat
Bob: No I haven't noticed that the starboard cockpit hose scupper tends to break, but I'll take a good look at mine this spring. You aren't stuffing the transom fitting with rags to keep birds or insects out thus freezing it and causing it to burst are you? Probably not but I had to ask. I have to reinstall my rudder this spring while I'm laying back there I'll take a digital photo for you so you can compare your set up with mine. Maybe the hoses are different diameters or have different wall thickness. Regards, Mike Pitterpat
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Bob
Thanks, Mike...
No freeze problem here...the insects can have that part of the boat until May. This fitting has broken twice on me - it was broken when I bought the boat, and it broke just after the move to Chicago from Tennessee. It is in a bind when installed, and I think the flexing on the ride up may have cracked it. The problem appears to be that, when installed, there is almost no clearance between the hose end of the fitting and the locker. So to install you have to assemble the whole thing and then tighten. So it is in a bind from the word "go". So hose thickness definately plays a role, but I wonder whether or not I have the correct fitting. Next time I am going to reengineer with a 90 degree fitting. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Bob s/v Simple Dreams Chicago
No freeze problem here...the insects can have that part of the boat until May. This fitting has broken twice on me - it was broken when I bought the boat, and it broke just after the move to Chicago from Tennessee. It is in a bind when installed, and I think the flexing on the ride up may have cracked it. The problem appears to be that, when installed, there is almost no clearance between the hose end of the fitting and the locker. So to install you have to assemble the whole thing and then tighten. So it is in a bind from the word "go". So hose thickness definately plays a role, but I wonder whether or not I have the correct fitting. Next time I am going to reengineer with a 90 degree fitting. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Bob s/v Simple Dreams Chicago
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Bob
Portlights...
Ron, Did the same as you with the portlights...the Becksons are a good fit to replace the original PYHI's. Not sure if you have a Kenyon or Selden rig setup, but rigrite.com is a good source for parts. Good luck with the commissioning. Bob s/v Simple Dreams Chicago
Ron, Did the same as you with the portlights...the Becksons are a good fit to replace the original PYHI's. Not sure if you have a Kenyon or Selden rig setup, but rigrite.com is a good source for parts. Good luck with the commissioning. Bob s/v Simple Dreams Chicago
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