O'Day 25 CB

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Jun 29, 2010
1,287
Beneteau First 235 Lake Minnetonka, MN
I have seen a few O'Day 25's out there and actually looked at one that was at my marina for sale. What I am wondering is this, how trailerable are they really? Is it difficult to step/unstep the mast? Are they basically trailerable in the sense that you can trailer them to your marina at the start of the season and then trailer them back home at the end or can you take them somewhere else relatively easily. I have the vehicle to tow one so that is not the issue. Just wondering how easy they are to move about.

Thanks.

CB
 
Jun 1, 2004
95
Hunter 27 Cave Run Lake, Morehead,KY
I've heard that Ringling Brothers can trailer an elephant. I wouldn't want to do it though. I use my trailer to get my O'Day 25 into the water in the spring and out in the fall for storage. I'm sure that a lot of folks would disagree with me, but I do trailer a MacGregor 21 which is like a fly compared to the O'Day and it's not as easy as I thought that it would be. I guess it depends on what you want, and need, and are capable of doing.
 

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Jan 11, 2007
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Columbia 28 Sarasota
The question is how patient are you... We used to trailer our 25 every time we used it. Stepping the mast before, unstepping it afterward and trailering back to the storage lot that we kept it in. We found that we were not sailing as much as we could and should.

So, we found a marina where we could keep the boat on the trailer, mast up. We can be hooked up, in the water with the motor running in 15 minutes.

It used to be 45 minutes stepping the mast, then 45 again at the end of the day. It was quite tedious. But, the boat trailered well.
 
Jun 29, 2010
1,287
Beneteau First 235 Lake Minnetonka, MN
I was thinking of keeping the boat at a marina and then possibly taking it to another location once or twice in the season for a long weekend or so. Glad to hear it trailers well. So about 45 minutes to setup and then another 45 or so to tear down, not too awful if you don't do it allot. Thanks for the input Ross & Steve. Hope some other folks have some experience to share too.
 
Dec 11, 2009
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Oday 26 Central FL
I'd give it about an hour or so. IMHO, the 25 is a perfect boat for what you are looking to use it for. A roller furler will make things a little longer and you'll want some type of mast raising system. I used an "A" frame for my 23, it had a furler also. The "A" frame is very easy to make, inexpensive and very effective for single handed mast raising.



John
 
Jun 29, 2010
1,287
Beneteau First 235 Lake Minnetonka, MN
Thanks for the info John. I was figuring something like that to get the mast up. So many ingenious methods out on the web too. An hour isn't bad all things considered if it is a 4 day weekend or a week of cruising around somewhere. Now I just need to find the boat, close by, that is in good condition, and, and, and.....
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
I was thinking of keeping the boat at a marina and then possibly taking it to another location once or twice in the season for a long weekend or so. Glad to hear it trailers well. So about 45 minutes to setup and then another 45 or so to tear down, not too awful if you don't do it allot. Thanks for the input Ross & Steve. Hope some other folks have some experience to share too.
We have members who trailer an O'Day 25 and an O'Day 26 in our club. They have moorings for their boats and they launch them in the spring and pull them out in the late fall. Some of the O'Day 25s and 26s came with mast raising bridles that attach to the end of the boom to a triangular plate built into the stays on each side of the boat. This allows the boom to be used as a Gin Pole for raising the mast over the bow of the boat with the aid of the Mainsheet. The line on the Mainsheet needs to be removed from one pulley on each side of the Mainsheet to attain the length needed between the two blocks to reach the boom when the mast is down. Also, someone needs to hold and guide the furler luff as the mast goes up because there is nothing to prevent the mast from going over sideways if the weight of that furler goes to one side or the other. One of our members with the OD 26 built a bow mast crutch with a roller on it so that he could roll the mast forward, which makes it a little easier, but when the mast is rolled out far enough to where the Tabernacle halves are in line to be pinned, the mast is just a little top heavy and needs to be held down until the pin is inserted.
With all that said I can truthfully say that this system of mast raising/lowering works, but I wouldn't want to do it more than twice a year. I think it took them about an hour to set it up but they had at least one extra person helping them. The guy with the 25 doesn't have the triangular plates on his stays but he can get away with attaching the boom pivot bridles to the top of each of his open turnbuckles. Even as he is able to use the mainsheet to pull his mast up, he still has to lift the mast a little by hand to get it started up.
I've raised and lowered the mast on O'Day 25s from the stern and I think that if I owned an O'Day 25 or 26, this is the way that I would do it. I'm certain that my mast raising equipment would work on either of these boats. I have used it on a Tanzer 22, Hunter 23, and a Bristol 24. You would need to build a Gin Pole to fit your mast and also a detachable mast crutch to support the mast from your stern rail. If you are lucky enough to buy a 25 with the triangular plates on the stays, you would be all set as far a pivot bridles are concerned.
This year I built a mast yoke that is clamped to the mast within reaching distance. I attach temporary stays (baby stays) to the yoke and the pivot bridles. This keeps the mast from going over sideways. I'm certain that this yoke would work on an OD 25 or 26 regardless of how they raise the masts, and offer more support for the mast than they're getting now. I meant to point out that raising the mast from the stern will allow the mast to be a little bottom heavy and this is something that is more preferable than having it top heavy. Also, the furler will be sitting on top of the mast and not under it, as the mast goes up. I tie my furler luff off to my Gin Pole with a Lineman's "Rolling Hitch" and I'm able to raise/lower my mast all by myself. So these are my thoughts on mast raising/lowering on a 25 or 26. Both systems are OK to use, but one system is going to be a whole lot faster and easier to do what you want to do. I just took these pics recently when I pulled my boat out and brought it home when I heard about Hurricane Earl. I brought my boat back three days later and launched it again.
Joe
 

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Oct 12, 2008
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Oday 25 Yankeetown
It's a great boat, easy to trailer, but definitely takes some effort to raise and lower the mast. I rigged up a gin pole, then bought an electric winch that I use to both raise and lower the mast. I have a roller furling system, so it adds a bit to teh complexity and having an electric system with up and down control made it a bit nicer to deal with. I still only use it once or twice a year though... keep the boat in a marina and get to enjoy it right away without messing around. I have intentions of doing what you are suggesting as well with an occasional long weekend here and there- between the suburban and the mast raising system, it should be pretty straight forward- timed it and it takes about an hour and a half for me to go from trailer to sail-ready.

-Paul
 
Jun 29, 2010
1,287
Beneteau First 235 Lake Minnetonka, MN
Thanks everyone for your replies. Glad to know I am not completely off my rocker for having the idea of doing what I was thinking of. Does not sound like it is overly problematic, just some effort and for a 4 day or longer cruise, doesn't seem out of the question. Thanks again!
 

billh

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Jun 9, 2009
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Hunter 28.5 Inland NY
CB,

Well, I have an O'Day 26 and trailer it around pretty often a few times a year anyway. I move it to a lake for a week vacation and sometimes to a large lake near me as well. it trailers well, and with a decent pickup no issue hauling either. As with what others have said, it is doable. I do not have a roller to mess with so that makes it easy as well. I step the mast with only myself and whatever friend I can grab to do it. I looses the head stay and drop her gently. No baby stays and so forth. Teh mast is pretty light its a matter of working against the leverage is all. This year I am making a gin pole solution, taking a 2' alluminum pole 8' long attaching to the base of the mast, and then will either use my traveler pulley system or attach a winch to gin pole to raise and lower when i am alone. The side to side thing has not been an issue as i walk it down. So far so good. I know I hear the folks say I am tempting fate and one day might drop it, but I am cautious and take my time. However, doign it with two guys takes a matter or minutes vs hours. I leave the back stay connected as well as the side stays and when I lift her ni place one of us holds it there while the other goes forward and reattaches the head stay. Tighten and she is up. takes moments to do. it is not a big issue at all.

i have seen many gin pole variations and the worse I helped a guy use one that took us two hours to set up and 30 seconds to raise the mast and another half hour to derig the gin pole! tehre were four or five of us standing there helping and we could have had the mast up in moments, it was quite absurd. However I do appreciate safety and ingenuity as well.

But, getting back to it, a drop the mast tie it off to the rails using pipe insulation on the rails and then use rolls of shrink wrap for tying everything up and off I go. when I get to my destination cut off the shrink wrap, slide mast forward pin and raise and pin the headstay. I am on the water in under 30 min. when traveling I leave the main sheet in the boom, so I only have to reattach the boom. Then feed the slugs to the mast and attache tiller and rudder and motor. with two of us and having done it often we have a rhythm. However when all is done there is one last review to see that all pins re attached and safety clips are on them! Lost a rudder one time that way, cant be in too big a hurry anymore.

Safety is my number one issue and so far with that in mind I have not had any issues stepping the mast and heading off to waters afar. The gin pole will be if I am alone and have no other option, but to date if I am in a pinch I have asked bystanders to assist and so far they all great it with enthusiasm as most people I find are quite curious about how a sailboat is rigged. So they are more than happy to step up and help lift the mast.

One a group a burly looking bikers showed up at the launch to see what was going on, and I quickly put them to work :) One of my brothers is a biker so I have some idea of their thinking :)

Bottom line, I have no qualms about stepping the mast myself, and can manage with one other person. maybe one day that wont be the case as I age and my back might not be as strong as it is, but for now it works.

Next year i will venture out even more, I have a desire to head down the Hudson River to NYC from Albany and from Albany there aren't any bridges to worry about clean shot all the way down. Then once in NYC I will have my car driven down and haul her back home as the current and my vacation time might not allow a return trip via the river.

So, I would say to you with the O'Day 25 it should not be an issue whatsoever. You have heard it said before, "if I can do it anyone can" and that holds true here as well.

Happy sailing.

Bill H.
 

geehaw

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May 15, 2010
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O-day 25 shoal keel Valdez
new owner too.

I bought an O-day 25 in May had to tow it 400 miles through 2 mountain passes and along a mountain range for most of the trip. Had no problem with towing it with a 3'4 Chevy pick up. The previous owner all ways kept it out of the water and raised stepped the mast by himself with his wife as a back up to help just in case. He was a bit younger and a bit bigger then me. I tryied it and was unable to do it myself. I got it almost to the point where it would start to loose weight but couldn't quiet get it over the hump and had to solicit help. This is my first sailboat and it took me a good 8 hours to figure the rigging out and get it in the water. But now I am confident i could do it in an hour since I know how everything goes as long as I can find someone to help step the mast. Going down next weekend to bring it home as our season here is over. Hoping it don't snow in the passes by then. Towing it on icy roads will be very scary. My boats 380 miles from where I live and working over time right now so no time to get there to use her. If I didn't need to do so much work on it I would leave it there and do some winter sailing. And they get about 12 feet of snow where its at so I would be worried all the time. 5 feet of snow in 24 hours is not unheard of there. Good luck and enjoy it. Greg
 
Jun 29, 2010
1,287
Beneteau First 235 Lake Minnetonka, MN
Thanks everyone for your insight and information. Going to have to wait on the purchase until probably end of season next year, good to know others are doing what I am planing.
 
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