O’day 240 cracks in cockpit seats, general pre-buy

Nov 18, 2024
2
still looking still looking Lake of the Ozarks
New to the forum. Got my eye on a 240 offered for sale. Lots of (hopefully) minor issues you’d expect in a 30+ year old boat. Two questions:

First, fairly specific: what are these cracks at the back of pretty much the entire cockpit bench on both sides (pics attached)? Are they concerning, or cosmetic?

Second, very (overly?) broad: what should I be on the lookout for? I’ve owned powerboats (mostly runabouts) for years, but this will be the first sailboat. One could write volumes on what I don’t know here….

Thanks for any pointers!

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Sep 25, 2008
7,283
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
Minor stress cracks are not surprising on an old boat. The bigger concern is what you can’t see. If water/moisture has been seeping into the cracks, it can rot the core material which I assume in balsa Or plywood. If it also froze during cold weather, you can use your imagination. And if the current/previous owner was as lax with maintenance on other stuff as he was with taking care of this, who knows what issues exist.

If there isn’t any underlying damage, it’s pretty simple to fill and fair the crack.

There are lots of tutorials on the internet on how to assess moisture damage
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,275
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Cracks like the ones in the photo are pretty common in older boats. There are a few reasons, most of which are pretty benign. First and foremost is the nature of gelcoat, it is brittle and needs to be well supported or it will crack. The second is the nature of fibreglass, when being laid up it tends to pull away from tight corners into a more gradual curve. This leaves a small void between the gelcoat and the glass supporting it and it cracks.

In some constructions the corners of flat sections, like seats and bridge decks the edges at the joint are more flexible than the middle of the flat surface. Over time the flexing causes the gelcoat to crack. This is most likely to happen if the seat is cored because the coring ends before the corner of the horizontal and vertical joint.

The vast majority of the time this is only cosmetic and the underlying structure is fine. Checking the areas around the cracks for high moisture readings would be a good idea along with the rest of the deck.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,385
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
One difference between sailboats and power boats is the rigging. There can be a fair amount of expense in righting deficiencies of the rigging. To begin you have to make sure all the rigging parts are there. If the rigging is off the boat it can be a challenge to put your eyes on each component. Sometimes they are stored away from the hull but it is worth the time to uncoil the standing rigging, inspect the mast and boom, make damn sure the gooseneck connection is complete and not excessively worn (They can be very difficult to replace).
So for standing rigging look for broken wires, areas unwinding of the wire and kinks. All are bad. This basically a pass/fail test. Some advise dragging a cloth over the wire to find broken strands. Also look at the turnbuckles to assure that they aren't bent and take pictures of the position of the turnbuckle on the studs. They shouldn't be at any extreme. If the turnbuckle is at its extreme end, or close to it, the boat hull or deck could have deficiencies.
For the mast inspect for any dents or any signs that it is not straight. Also look at the masthead - take pictures - for the condition, material and shape of the sheaves. And look at the spreaders paying attention to how they are attached to the mast and the condition of that attachment. And inspect the spreader ends where the shrouds attach. At the base of the mast look for wear or damage on the base or hinge. Also inspect any hardware that passes a line from inside the mast to outside including halyard boxes.
For the boom inspect the endplates (Boom side of the gooseneck) and the end of the boom. How are they attached? Aluminum rivets, SS rivets, machine screws? What is the condition of the fasteners? There should be no play in the hardware. If lines exit the end of the boom. take pictures. Inspect the mainsheet and vang attachments. Again for hardware condition and for those highly loaded areas any elongation of the holes in the boom suggesting excessive wear. Look at and try to understand the reefing system (You may end up changing it to your liking) and outhaul.
There's probably a lot more and other posters can fill in what I've missed.
A sailboat is not a power boat with a mast. When a sailboat loses its rig insurance companies generally total the boat. Imaging the expense of shipping a mast. Without good rigging a sailboat is a very poor power boat.
 
Sep 24, 2018
3,066
Catalina 30 MKIII Chicago
This isn't in a crucial, high load area so I wouldn't be too concerned. It would take decades for it to cause an issue. On top of that, it's an area that can be repaired from below. It sucks grinding in that small space but doable