I currently have a precision 18 and am planning to move up to 21 or 22 foot boat. I am also considering the precision 21 and oday 222. I would appreciate any comments (plus or minus) or comparisons of the two boats you may have. thanks
- Status
- Not open for further replies.
D
Dave
Oday vs. Precision
Hi Clem, I have a 222, and a good friend of mine has a Precision, but it is a the 23. I have sailed a lot on both boats. I know you are evaluating the 21 foot Precision, and unfortunately I can't comment on that one. However I will say this, I like both my boat, and the Precision 23, and I think they offer similar performance as pocket cruisers. The Precision will probably be more costly since it is still in production. Let me comment a bit about the 222. I have had very little in the way of problems with the boat. The only defect that my boat has is with popouts in the gelcoat. The gelcoat is the shiny skin that covers the fiberglass hull. I have learned that the popouts result from imperfections as to how the gelcoat was applied in the first place, and that this problem is unique to my boat, rather than being a systemic problem with all 222's. In addition, they are easily fixed although getting a good match on the color probably requires professional help. The only other thing that I had to replace were a couple of the backing plates on the pulpit and one of the stantions. They were not as significant as I would like. I have also upgraded a few things (e.g., added VHF radio, modified the trailer, replaced the motor mount with a beefier unit, replaced the standing rigging which was original to my 18 year old boat) and I do have a few other things planned for the winter. Among the new toys will be a new roller furling unit for the jib rather than continue to use the plastic Schaefer furling unit that came as original equipment. The Schaefer unit is pulled up with a halyard rather than sliding up the forestay. As a result, I find that it spills quite a bit of wind and prevents me from pointing higher. It is also difficult to roll up the jib in heavy winds with the plastic unit. I'll probably replace it with a CDI or Shaefer Snapfurl this spring. I may add trailer brakes as well if the budget allows. The 222 is great for single handing. I'm working on the mast raising system so that I can single hand that as well. Larger individuals can do it without much of a system. However, we vertically challenged folks need some help so I will work on that. I find that it sails great in winds in the 10-15 range, and with a reef in the sail, it does fine in 15-20. We trailer the boat around a bit in the summer and it pulls fine behind a full size SUV. I pulled it for a year behind a smaller Jeep Cherokee, and it did fine for short trips, but on long trips, it didn't handle big hills well, and I was concerned that the weight of the vehicle was about the same as the weight of the boat. We sail on Lake Michigan, and also on some smaller lakes. I've had it out in 3 foot seas on Michigan, and it handled those fine. I wouldn't want to get into much more than that, although I'm sure the boat could handle it, it wouldn't be comfortable. All in all, I think the 222 is a great little boat. I don't have anything negative to say about the Precision either. I think both boats have great lines, and I suspect that you would be happy with either choice. Good luck.
Hi Clem, I have a 222, and a good friend of mine has a Precision, but it is a the 23. I have sailed a lot on both boats. I know you are evaluating the 21 foot Precision, and unfortunately I can't comment on that one. However I will say this, I like both my boat, and the Precision 23, and I think they offer similar performance as pocket cruisers. The Precision will probably be more costly since it is still in production. Let me comment a bit about the 222. I have had very little in the way of problems with the boat. The only defect that my boat has is with popouts in the gelcoat. The gelcoat is the shiny skin that covers the fiberglass hull. I have learned that the popouts result from imperfections as to how the gelcoat was applied in the first place, and that this problem is unique to my boat, rather than being a systemic problem with all 222's. In addition, they are easily fixed although getting a good match on the color probably requires professional help. The only other thing that I had to replace were a couple of the backing plates on the pulpit and one of the stantions. They were not as significant as I would like. I have also upgraded a few things (e.g., added VHF radio, modified the trailer, replaced the motor mount with a beefier unit, replaced the standing rigging which was original to my 18 year old boat) and I do have a few other things planned for the winter. Among the new toys will be a new roller furling unit for the jib rather than continue to use the plastic Schaefer furling unit that came as original equipment. The Schaefer unit is pulled up with a halyard rather than sliding up the forestay. As a result, I find that it spills quite a bit of wind and prevents me from pointing higher. It is also difficult to roll up the jib in heavy winds with the plastic unit. I'll probably replace it with a CDI or Shaefer Snapfurl this spring. I may add trailer brakes as well if the budget allows. The 222 is great for single handing. I'm working on the mast raising system so that I can single hand that as well. Larger individuals can do it without much of a system. However, we vertically challenged folks need some help so I will work on that. I find that it sails great in winds in the 10-15 range, and with a reef in the sail, it does fine in 15-20. We trailer the boat around a bit in the summer and it pulls fine behind a full size SUV. I pulled it for a year behind a smaller Jeep Cherokee, and it did fine for short trips, but on long trips, it didn't handle big hills well, and I was concerned that the weight of the vehicle was about the same as the weight of the boat. We sail on Lake Michigan, and also on some smaller lakes. I've had it out in 3 foot seas on Michigan, and it handled those fine. I wouldn't want to get into much more than that, although I'm sure the boat could handle it, it wouldn't be comfortable. All in all, I think the 222 is a great little boat. I don't have anything negative to say about the Precision either. I think both boats have great lines, and I suspect that you would be happy with either choice. Good luck.
D
Dan
O'Day of Course
Your in an O'Day fourum, so you have to expect bias. My personal opinion is that O'Day is a more solid constructed boat. Grab a life line stantion on a persion and shake it. Then do the same to a 222. When I was shown this, I was surprised at the amount of flex on the Persion 23. Due to the construction I believe that the O'Day will last and hold it value longer at the sacrafice of some weight.
Your in an O'Day fourum, so you have to expect bias. My personal opinion is that O'Day is a more solid constructed boat. Grab a life line stantion on a persion and shake it. Then do the same to a 222. When I was shown this, I was surprised at the amount of flex on the Persion 23. Due to the construction I believe that the O'Day will last and hold it value longer at the sacrafice of some weight.
M
MamaBruff
I agree; The Oday is a well built boat ..........
We bought our 1984 222 after searching for several months. She is a creampuff! Her cabin is the roomiest of any boat that size. Compare the OD to other boats of the same age, and you will be pleasantly surprised. Of course, care and maintenance are a huge factor. Neglect can ruin any good boat. Good Luck MB
We bought our 1984 222 after searching for several months. She is a creampuff! Her cabin is the roomiest of any boat that size. Compare the OD to other boats of the same age, and you will be pleasantly surprised. Of course, care and maintenance are a huge factor. Neglect can ruin any good boat. Good Luck MB
J
Jim
Mast Raising System
Hi - actually, I am trying to sell my 222 (I think) but would be very interested in your mast raising system - can you post it or email me at jspadafora@houston.rr.com ? The one thing I do not like about my 222, and one person who is looking at the boat also mentioned is the mast foot design - not a hinge type, but rather the entire mast is supported laterally by a simple and small aluminum ring on the mast foot. I have snapped this inthe past wile raising the mast (it twisted a bit). Now, the aluminum is wearing where the boom vang attaches. Do you have gtis typeof foot design and any expriences with it ? I get anxiety every time I raise the mast, thinking about that small sliver of aluminum... Jim
Hi - actually, I am trying to sell my 222 (I think) but would be very interested in your mast raising system - can you post it or email me at jspadafora@houston.rr.com ? The one thing I do not like about my 222, and one person who is looking at the boat also mentioned is the mast foot design - not a hinge type, but rather the entire mast is supported laterally by a simple and small aluminum ring on the mast foot. I have snapped this inthe past wile raising the mast (it twisted a bit). Now, the aluminum is wearing where the boom vang attaches. Do you have gtis typeof foot design and any expriences with it ? I get anxiety every time I raise the mast, thinking about that small sliver of aluminum... Jim
- Status
- Not open for further replies.