O'day 22 Stock Up 4 Coastal Cruise?

jackhartjr · Jan 29, 2012

David, call me, 828 three one zero 811 one. You DO NOT want to remove the foam!Jack

Joe11688 · Jan 29, 2012

David S said:
Hi Folks, I would like to stock up for a cruise from Punta Gorda, Charlotte Harbor to Fl Keys. I have trailered too and sailed briefly in the 2 above places. What are some essential foods and water supply to stock on board? And how to prepare some simple foods. What would be a simple one burner cooking device?
This boat has foam floation through out. Is there enough storage space for food and water without removing some foam to increase storage?
Where are some good places along the way mentioned to stop for supplies?

David S

David,
I think that Jack is the best guy to fill you in on where to stop to stock up on food, water, and ice. Being familiar with Cape Cod MA. and the surrounding bays in the RI area, I became familiar with most of the stops after a while.
For food storage I had bought about six 2.5 gal plastic containers with covers and stored all my can goods and dry goods in them in the compartments under the settees in the cabin.
I had a 48qt cooler with everything in it that needed to stay cold with the exception of my eggs which I kept behind the backrest in a padded shelf. I bought my eggs fresh at a chicken farm which hadn't been refrigerated. I brought them home and coated each egg with Crisco and put them back in the egg carton. They'd be good for weeks and months. With that said, I don't advise that you do this. Your climate is too warm and the chance of getting ill is too risky.
I had a large water can for drinking water plus the 5 gal. water tank in the boat. Today, I bring a large water cooler with ice and I use 1 gallon plastic jugs that a friend gave me when he had to drink that Kool Aid to get cleaned out before a Colonoscopies. I use sink water to wash my hands and that's it.

A good thing to have on board is a weed sprayer. I bought a new one and cut the wand down a little shorter. It's great for using the mist in keeping cool. You can spray the pooch, and you can also use it to rinse off the soapy dishes in the cockpit.

Last year I found a place to mount my Stern's Sun shower which is out of the way and very accessible. This can be used to rinse off the large pans as well as taking a shower in the cockpit. I installed two plastic fare leads on my sliding companionway hatch and I keep my shower bag tied to the top of it.
You asked about the stove; I favor the Origo non pressurized stoves. Alcohol is pricey though. You can buy it by the gallon at Home Depot cheaper than buying the quart size. I've been using the two burner stove for years but this year I plan on using my single burner Origo. Most of the time I use one burner anyway.
For cooking hot dogs, toast, or steak, I use a Burton Stove-Top Grill. I won't cook hamburgers on it. Hamburg is too greasy when it fries and can ignite into a ball of flame. For toast, you can't beat this grill on this type of stove. This particular grill is made of stainless steel with an Aluminum dome cooking surface. The steel domes aren't too good to cook on.

For an oven I use a circa 1950s Stanley Stove-Top Ovenentte. They're hard to find but worth their weight in gold. I've baked muffins, cakes, fish, meats, and pizzas in this oven. It's great for heating left overs.

This year I plan on eliminating the two quarter birth mattresses under the cockpit and using it for gear storage plus my extra 28 quart cooler. It's a lot easier to drag gear out of a smooth hard surface than over mattresses and there's still plenty of room to sit down or stretch out on the quarter births. I have a 50 quart cooler behind my companionway step in the cabin. I also keep a utility box with spare parts, nuts bolts and Etc. which is too heavy to drag over a mattress.
I think that I've covered almost everything. You're going to have to make the call on food items. Myself, I start loading my food in the containers in April and it stays in the cabin until the fall. I keep coffee, cereal, pancake mix, flour, sugar, and etc. I ofter cook up my catch on board. Most of the time I'll grill up hot dogs, or throw a frozen chicken pot pie in the oven with some FF to go with it. I keep dried beef on board and make up S.O.S.

Two years ago I started baking pizzas on board using a Pita pocket for a crust. I bring along the Marinara sauce, cheese, and topping. It's not unusual for me to cook under sail with my autopilot steering.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so I'm posting some for anyone who needs ideas on how to cruise in a small boat.
Good luck on your cruise and post some pics of it when you get a chance David.
Joe

OdayDave · Jan 29, 2012

Hi Dave -

Are you going to be staying in marinas, anchoring out, some combination of both? I typically only go for about a week at a time at most and usually can get to a marina if I need to. Some of the trips are mainly harbor hopping, others are anchoring out. The things I would not do without are my Origo alcohol stove (I have the single burner version and it works fine) and my Magma gas grill. The grill is great for burgers, steaks, chops, etc. and everything else can be done on the stove. For a week on the water, I take coffee, cheese, nuts/fruit (apples mainly, but no banana's, since I hear they are bad luck; I'm not superstitious but why take chances for a banana), granola, tortilla wraps, some heavy wheat bread, couscous, cups of ramen noodle soups, yogurt, and for meat, thin sliced pork chops, bratwurst/italian sausage, and polish sausage. I always have plenty of water, soda and of course a few adult beverages for happy hour at anchor. I've got a couple of coolers, one small one mainly for the meat which doesn't get opened much, and one (built into the cockpit) for drinks and other things that need to stay cool. The boat actually has a small dorm fridge but that is only used when hooked up to shore power. I have room for 8 gallons of water in my internal tank and I typically take a 5 gal. portable tank as well.

Also think about power if you are anchoring out. My diesel powers my two house batteries, (and shore power also charges them) but I also have two extra's that are charged and secured in the cabin should I need them. If all my batteries die, I would have a hard time starting the diesel. I'm also going to get a small solar panel. I had one for my 222 and it kept the battery topped off in most cases.

Finally, think about safety equipment if you're going to out for a while. I have three anchors (2 danforth and one delta) with 6 feet of chain and 100 ft. of line (I may get more, seems like cheap insurance), life jackets for 6 people, jacklines, harnesses, two GPS units, depth finder, autopilot (Raymarine ST1000+), spotlight, flares, main vhs, portable vhs, cellphone, radar deflector, emergency antenna, lifesling2 and I even bought one of those spot locator devices so I could be tracked online (the latter was purchased so my wife and I could keep tabs on our 22 year old daughter who took a 500 mile bicycle trip, but I'll use it for cruising as well). I always have detailed charts for the areas I'm cruising, plugs in case I get holed, and a portable kayak and pump. I have a little walker bay dinghy but don't usually take that. The kayak works fine, and if I'm cruising with someone else, I have a second one. I make a list of phone numbers I might need to use, and I check in with my wife somewhat regularly. I'm sure I'm forgetting some things that I've acquired over the years, but that's most the list. Oh, I also have one of those solar showers like Joe has, and I keep a shorty wetsuit on board in case I'm cruising early in the season when Lake Michigan is still cold. For firstaid kit, bandages, painkillers, anticeptic spray, benadryl, motion sickness pills.

Oh yeah, tarps/bungies and bug screens.

That's it from the top of my head.

Hope this helps,

Dave
s/v Lagniappe
O'Day 25

AtlanticAl · Jan 30, 2012

I like to keep some MREs (meals ready to eat) on my boat. I usually cook, or just open a tin of tuna or something, but i keep the MREs for when its either too bad to start cooking, or i cant be bothered cooking, and want a hot meal. The are made for the military, and each meal comes with its own heater, which is activated with a few spoonfulls of water, you then put the main course (which is in a bag) into the heater bag, and ten mins later you have hot food. they come numbered its like menu 19 beef with vegetables, with each meal you get a drink condiments, snacks, a sweet, cookies, and they last years and years. I bought them mainly from ebay, take them camping, just in case the weather is bad, and then i started puting them on the boat for the same reason.

I used to take dried foods camping, things like couscous, pasta, powdered soups, lentils, because we would be hill walking, and every pound you carry, is a lot on the up hill. It was mainly carbs we took, as for a few days of hill walking, you dont really need protein, its carbs you are burning, but, we would take peanut butter, and sometimes a couple of cans of tuna.

In the boat, we can carry a lot more obviously, but not having a fridge, you are still limited, and pretty much stuck to dried or canned foods.

Shoaldrafter · Jan 30, 2012

between the devil and the deep blue sea ...

AtlanticAl said:
I like to keep some MREs (meals ready to eat) on my boat. I usually cook, or just open a tin of tuna or something, but i keep the MREs for when its either too bad to start cooking, or i cant be bothered cooking, and want a hot meal. The are made for the military, and each meal comes with its own heater, which is activated with a few spoonfulls of water, you then put the main course (which is in a bag) into the heater bag, and ten mins later you have hot food. they come numbered its like menu 19 beef with vegetables, with each meal you get a drink condiments, snacks, a sweet, cookies, and they last years and years. I bought them mainly from ebay, take them camping, just in case the weather is bad, and then i started puting them on the boat for the same reason.

I used to take dried foods camping, things like couscous, pasta, powdered soups, lentils, because we would be hill walking, and every pound you carry, is a lot on the up hill. It was mainly carbs we took, as for a few days of hill walking, you dont really need protein, its carbs you are burning, but, we would take peanut butter, and sometimes a couple of cans of tuna.

In the boat, we can carry a lot more obviously, but not having a fridge, you are still limited, and pretty much stuck to dried or canned foods.

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David,

The one thing to make sure you take is lots of water to drink.

I see you plan to sail past the everglades. Humm ...

I guess you do not want to sleep at night. They have a problem in those waters. See attached infomation:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/12/2586369/snakes-alive-exotic-pythons-can.html

http://news.yahoo.com/salt-water-wont-stop-python-invasion-florida-experts-220310584.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2011/1031/South-Florida-python-swallows-76-pound-adult-deer

Have you considered towing your boat to the keys?

Ed K

Sumner · Jan 30, 2012

Hi, we aren't Oday owners, but I followed the link to this thread to read about the snake scare, which we aren't worried about.

We have taken our Mac to the area you are going to and I posted our Fall of 2010 trip.....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/FL-fall-2010/Florida-2010-index.html

.. to the Charlotte Harbor area and recently our Spring of 2011 trip...

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/FL-spring-2011/Florida-2011-Spring-index.html

..... from Port Charlotte down to the keys and up to just south of Miami.

These might help you some in planning. Also I don't have the Spring trip finished, but do have it finished except for the dialog. If you want a link to the rest of the trip past Everglades City on to Marathon and then back up the Keys to South Dade Marina PM me and I'll send you the link.

Not sure where you are going to put in but All American by Punta Gorda was the best place price wise that we found to put in at. Also South Dade Marina south of Miami is good and is where we took out.

Our trip reports have a lot of info on stocking our boat with over a month's worth of food, water and human waste disposal. Also if you look at our mods to the Mac you might also get some ideas.

I would not take that route without a depth finder and a GPS chart plotter with current charts along with paper charts if you have never been there. We use the free SeaClear on a computer, a handheld with waypoints loaded from SeaClear and the free NOAA charts. This worked great and we always knew where we were.

Let me know if we can help and have a great trip,

Sum

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Joe11688 · Jan 30, 2012

David S said:
Thanks Joe, just what I need, I printed off a copy. The pics are great. My 1979 22 has a very different interior arrangement from your 222, but I'll get it figured out.
I also like your pic at anchor with all the sun shades, gives me some good ideas.
Thank you Jack, we had communed in the past, good to hear from a fellow Carolinian.

David S

Polytarps are a must David. The grommets on these tarps are never spaced evenly where they should be and I usually wind up having to install 3/8" brass grommets where needed. I normally carry an 8'X10' for the boom and two 5'X7's. I used 3/16" braid nylon for the tie-downs. Also I like to use quick release hitches on these lines.
Just before dark I usually set up a companionway hatch mosquito net in buggy areas. I made one for my forward hatch out of nylon screen and Velcro.

There have been times when I have set up a small tarp over the companionway hatch while running during a rain. It provides quick access to the cabin without having to mess with hatch boards.

A makeshift Bimini top can be set up by using a small tarp, and a boat hook. I do this quite a bit when sailing in the hot sun and sometimes a golfing umbrella works for shade.

Last year while on a run, it started to rain and I lowered my Main, covered it, and set up my tarps and sailed her with a poled out Gennie. We stayed dry all the way across the bay and the two miles up the river to the club. I'm by myself with the dog and the Autohelm 1000 ST+ comes in handy for steering the boat while I'm getting everything all set up. It would be almost impossible to set my whisker pole up by myself without the autopilot steering.

MrBill_FLL · Jan 30, 2012

stock up before you leave, and in marco island.
below marco stores are scarce till you hit the keys. publix is the main grocery chain. google publix in marco and look for the closest dock.

-sumner did this last year... read his blog! excellent reports

what time of year? after april its darn hot and buggy.

emergpa1 · Jan 30, 2012

nice work joe, you r a real blessing, a wealth of info, i still say you need to do a two week summer camp..hell i'd pay for it. your a gold mine of wisdom. thanks again.

emergpa1 · Jan 30, 2012

has anyone mentioned making ice blocks that fit the cooler? GOB rticle, or maybe something from the Pardey's, that discussed making a mold with epoxy from your cooler, and then freezing water in it. then putting that block back into your cooler. it is supposed to stay way colder way longer. =sorry the typing, usually enter from my phone, hence the short messages.

emergpa1 · Jan 30, 2012

ps we sail out of fort lauderdale this saurday for aruba, but cheatiing and using a crewed boat. the sister ship to emerald below

Joe11688 · Jan 31, 2012

emergpa1 said:
nice work joe, you r a real blessing, a wealth of info, i still say you need to do a two week summer camp..hell i'd pay for it. your a gold mine of wisdom. thanks again.

Thank you Keith for all those nice things that I asked you to say about me.

All kidding aside. I enjoy experimenting with things that make life easy on a boat, and a lot of the ideas that I've picked up through the years are things I've learned from others or read about in books and magazines.

An experienced cruiser,-- I'm not, and the only class that I've ever taught was a rope splicing class last year to some sea scouts at their weekly meeting in a local yacht club.

With that said, whenever we made plans for our week long cruises on Cape Cod or Narragansett Bay, I always made it a point to have an alternate plan to fall back on, in the event that the original plan failed. I just believe in trying to cover all the bases if I possibly can.

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