O'day 22 Mainsheet rigging

[lostintime]

Hi all, new here. I just purchased a 1983 O'day 22. It's in great shape but the block and tackel rig for the main sheet looks fishy. Does any one have a picture indicating how the attachment to the boom and the transom should look? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Its been 20 years since I've been under sail, I was quite emotional when I got underway for the first time yesterday.

 

[HukilauMike]

Hi all, new here. I just purchased a 1983 O'day 22. It's in great shape but the block and tackel rig for the main sheet looks fishy. Does any one have a picture indicating how the attachment to the boom and the transom should look? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Its been 20 years since I've been under sail, I was quite emotional when I got underway for the first time yesterday.

Here's a photo of yours truly enjoying an adult beverage while contemplating the mainsheet arrangement of my Oday 23. This should be the same as your late model 22.

 

[lostintime]

Thanks Huck, That helps. I do not have the piece connecting the triangle plate and the block, instead I have several small shackles. Got a name for that part? This is even further evidence that my connection between the upper block an boom is "pieced together" as well. I'm beginning to understand why I found one end of the jib sheet to be fastened to the sail and the other led aft to the cockpit. I guess the working theory was to walk the sheet up and around the mast upon tacking.

 

[DHaranSailor]

Welcome to the forums lostintime.

Have a picture of what you are working with?

 

[Brian S]

Thanks Huck, That helps. I do not have the piece connecting the triangle plate and the block, instead I have several small shackles. Got a name for that part?

Rudy calls it the "Backstay Tail" available for purchase here: http://www.drmarine.com/products.asp?cat=156

Not to be confused with the "Backstay Complete with Tail" which would be the whole backstay.

 

[lostintime]

Thanks for the info Brian I will order the Backstay Tail tomorrow. I added some pictures to my album, don't know if I did it right.

 

[DHaranSailor]

You did.

Nice looking vessel. Clean and in good shape. Enjoy! I miss my 22.

 

[HukilauMike]

I'm beginning to understand why I found one end of the jib sheet to be fastened to the sail and the other led aft to the cockpit. I guess the working theory was to walk the sheet up and around the mast upon tacking.

Well now that's troubling. You need two jib sheets, one for each side. Otherwise, you would have to walk the sheet forward around the mast every time you tack. As my daughter would say, "that's cray-cray".

 

[HukilauMike]

Thanks Huck, That helps. I do not have the piece connecting the triangle plate and the block, instead I have several small shackles. Got a name for that part? This is even further evidence that my connection between the upper block an boom is "pieced together" as well. I'm beginning to understand why I found one end of the jib sheet to be fastened to the sail and the other led aft to the cockpit. I guess the working theory was to walk the sheet up and around the mast upon tacking.

Wait, I'm just reading this more carefully now. Are you saying that your triangular piece is not attached to the transom by rigging wire but by a series of shackles? There is supposed to be a short tail of rigging wire that attaches to the tang on the transom. This piece is about a foot and half long and attaches at one end to the transom tang, and at one ent to one corner of the triangle. The backstay turnbuckle then attaches to another corner of the triangle. The bottom mainsheet block then attaches to the third corner of the triange via a shackle (I have a snap shackle there, but any kind of shackle will do. If you order the backstay tail from Rudy, it comes with or you otherwise have enough clevis pins and cotter pins to make all of the attachments.

 

[lostintime]

Wait, I'm just reading this more carefully now. Are you saying that your triangular piece is not attached to the transom by rigging wire but by a series of shackles? There is supposed to be a short tail of rigging wire that attaches to the tang on the transom. This piece is about a foot and half long and attaches at one end to the transom tang, and at one ent to one corner of the triangle. The backstay turnbuckle then attaches to another corner of the triangle. The bottom mainsheet block then attaches to the third corner of the triange via a shackle (I have a snap shackle there, but any kind of shackle will do. If you order the backstay tail from Rudy, it comes with or you otherwise have enough clevis pins and cotter pins to make all of the attachments.

No No No, I have the cable connecting the transom and the triangle. Looking at your picture I thought you had a clevis (is that the right term for something that spins) connecting the triangle to the lower block, but if you’re saying it's a shackle then that's what I have. I understand now the backstay tail is the lower cable connecting to the transom. I'm more concerned with the connection of the upper block to the boom. I just have the block shackled to a metal bracket which is bolted to the end of the boom, but the metal bracket comes down off of the boom about 4 inches and bends forward at a slight angle. It doesn't look right. If I remember I'll take a picture.

 

[HukilauMike]

Aha. The upper block of the mainsheet attaches to that bracket on the end of the boom with a shackle. That bracket bends backwards from the boom (pointing downward and towards the stern) on my boat.

 

[Brian S]

Yeah, that's the right way to do it. I could get a pic tomorrow.

No No No, I have the cable connecting the transom and the triangle. Looking at your picture I thought you had a clevis (is that the right term for something that spins) connecting the triangle to the lower block, but if you’re saying it's a shackle then that's what I have. I understand now the backstay tail is the lower cable connecting to the transom. I'm more concerned with the connection of the upper block to the boom. I just have the block shackled to a metal bracket which is bolted to the end of the boom, but the metal bracket comes down off of the boom about 4 inches and bends forward at a slight angle. It doesn't look right. If I remember I'll take a picture.

 

[lostintime]

Great, I thought mine looked wrong. If I remove the bolt holding the bracket on will a nut fall off on the inside of the boom?

 

[HukilauMike]

Great, I thought mine looked wrong. If I remove the bolt holding the bracket on will a nut fall off on the inside of the boom?

I've wondered that too. I think yes. It appeared to me that the only way to tighten that bolt (or remove it to replace the tang, or whatever) was to drill out the rivets that hold the boom end cap on, take off the cap, then do what you will with the bolt.

 

[lostintime]

It makes me wonder how my bracket ended up facing forward. Oh well, the bolt is coming off and we'll see what happens

 

[Brian S]

Here's what my main sheet looks like.

 

[lostintime]

here's a picture of my upper main sheet block

 

[Ron20324]

. That bracket bends backwards from the boom (pointing downward and towards the stern) on my boat.

It looks like that bracket is supposed to be bent in the direction of wherever the lower block is on the mainsheet- that triangle?? It is usually bent to give a fair lead to the next point in the sheet arrangement, so it looks like it should be straightend out enough to point properly. The upper bend at the bolt is okay. Looks like someone dropped the boom on the street. Really, that piece being bent is not necessarily a problem.

If you try to undo the bolt, it will only rotate since it should have a locknut on the inside..

 

[Ron20324]

It's interesting no one with a 22 has replied to the OP. Usually they are swarming like flies.

 

[Brian S]

It's interesting no one with a 22 has replied to the OP. Usually they are swarming like flies.

This probably should be posted to the O'day Day Sailers forum for more O'day exposure... http://forums.oday.sailboatowners.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66

Personally, I don't think this bracket is a big deal. it's not like there's a traveler under there, and in reaches the boom is out anyway. Maybe some PO bent it like that?