Oday 22 keel is leeking. Help wanted

[surfdj]

Hello everybody.
I am new on this forum. I need help.
I want to buy an Oday 22. The owner tells me that the boat is leeking from the keel during sailing. I think he ran a ground.
I can not find any information about how the keel is attached to the boat. Who can help me with this?
Does it appear often this kind of leekage. Is there a simple solution for it?
Can it be done by myself?
Is the keel bolted to the boat?
Are there any other problem area that I most look for. The boat is from 1980

On the image the boat is on the trailer. The boat is now in the water and I can not see the keel and the leekage from the outside

thank you all very much.
Kind regards
John from Holland (NL)

 

[repawn]

Hi,

Are you sure it is an O'day 22? The keel looks wrong to me to be an O'day 22.

If it is an O'day 22 - is it the centerboard or shoal keel version (Is there the ability to lower a board to make the keel deeper?)

The shoal keel is of one piece construction with the hull - my keel is leaking and I am working on finding from where - luckily I trailer mine and the bilge never fills more than 1/2 way up while sailing. If you can see the outside of the keel it should be sort of easy to find where it is leaking by watching where water trickles out. Hope that helps and I am sure someone with more knowledge will chime in.

 

[surfdj]

Thanks for your quick response.
I don't know what kind of keel it is. it looks like there is no possibility to extend the keel.
If it is a one piece construction then I think it is not reparable.
If I can find the leek when the boat is on trailer how can i repair it (with epoxy?)

 

[repawn]

WEll - first step would be to get the boat out of the water - frankly if it is floating the leak may not be all that bad. You will not be able to repair the boat while it is in the water - luckily there is a trailer to put the boat on. I am still not sure about it being an O'day - but if it is - the one piece construction of the keel is fixable - you will need epoxy and fiberglass - depending on the size of the hole. It may just be a small pin hole that fills the keel with water - that could be easily patched.

So - my Oday 22 is a little older - the main issues are - is the deck core wet - that you will have to check. Other things to check - is all of the hardware there? - all the blocks, mainsheet, halyards, sails, etc. Everyone of those items takes real money to replace.

Take your time inspecting the boat - you may hear and read that there is no such thing as a cheap or free boat and that is entirely true.

 

[surfdj]

Thank you very much.
I hope that it is possible to lift the boat out of the water.
I will take good notice if all of the hardware is there

 

[Ward H]

surfdj,
One thing for sure, it is not a shoal draft keel with swing centerboard. That looks like a fin keel. I didn't know O'day made the 22 in a fin keel. A search could not find a reference to one. That bow railing (Pulpit) is a bit unusual and doesn't appear in any photos of O'day 22s I looked at.
Give the O'day experts some time to see the thread before you make any decisions.

Of course with you in Holland, it may be an O'day we are not used to seeing here in the US.
You should definitely have the boat lifted out of the water and inspect the keel and where the keel meets the hull for damage. That would be the only way to determine the extent of any damage but first look in the bilge to see if you see any keel bolts or damage from the inside.
Your best bet is to find someone in your area who knows boats who can look at it with you.

With only one photo of the boat on the trailer, not much for us to go on.

 

[surfdj]

thanks for your reaction
There is one more photo of the boat. I'll attach it to the first post.

 

[Indysailor]

I see several things that are different; the lower shrouds connect separately from the uppers, the bow rail, the mainsheet rigging, it's clear this boat is either modified or some version of a 22 that is different. They did make a fin keel 23, but I've not heard of a 22 like this one. At any rate, this is not necessarily an issue specific to an Oday 22, but rather it's about how the keel is attached. Have a look in the bilge, are there bolts? If so, what kind of shape are they in? The keel attachment needs to be inspected carefully to determine how it can be repaired.

 

[RichBone]

Looks like a winged keel. Could be a European model. Rudy would know.

 

[Sunbird22358]

Well, the boat is certainly an O'DAY 22 or splashed copy! But that keel is surely NOT stock, at least not for US built O'DAYs.
The 22 came from the factory with a shoal, fixed keel (draft 1'11") from 1972 to 1978, in 1979 the keel was made shallower and now included a centerboard housed within (draft 1'3" cb up, 4'3" cb down) the K/Cb model was built from 1979 to 1983 when production of the 22 ended. 1984 introduced the 222 a completely different boat.

The rig on the 1972-79 O'DAY 22 was a masthead type, mast length 22'9", the 1980-83 models had a taller, fractional rig, mast length 27'3".

Possible that someone cut off the K/CB of a 1980 model and bolted (or glassed?) on a fin-keel?

 

[Ward H]

Looks like a winged keel. Could be a European model. Rudy would know.

surfdj is in Holland so that would make sense. I wonder what the second line of the O'day emblems says?
That bow railing is different, with the low center bar.

Absent confirmation that this is a common European design, I would be hesitant that it is, as Sunbird suggested, a possible owner mod. Which has gone wrong.

 

[surfdj]

Thanks again for the reactions.
I think too that a other keel was attached to this boat. And that it has gone wrong. The owner told me that previously someone worked on the keel with epoxy.
I think that I cancel the viewing.
For me not this Oday 22. The price is also a clue, it is to cheap. Boat, trailer and outboard motor for les then € 2000 (US $ 2257)
Thank you all for participating