O'Day 22 Interior Re-Design

[ChattOday]

I did a re-do, repair and re-paint of my boat's deck over the Spring and early Summer. Fixed everything.

Now, to the interior. I don't like the setup. It is designed around a 4 person mentality. No way. Too cramped.

I want to move to a 2 person camper on the water philosophy. Extend the front bed 4 inches longer to make it comfy. I am looking for thoughts or suggestions in the following areas:

1. Basic re-design opinions. Layouts that they have seen or have done. As of know, the interior is totally stripped out. I removed every bit of old wood.

2. Space saving options. You know, those amazing tables that fold into a bed, or a bench seat that folds up into a bed. A sink that moves to show a fridge. Those nifty furniture/construction ideas that double or triple usable space.

3. Electric re-do opinions. The back bilge is like 20 sq feet of utterly untapped awesomeness. I want to do it up. Add a several battery bank. Solar. TV, radio. Fans. Nice interior lights. I am even considering A/C.


So. With that in mind, my vision. I live in TN, on the TN River right off of Chickamauga. I have my own dock and live on the water. I want this to be my family's joy on the water. Take her up and down the river and camp out. Drive her into the mountain's and use her as we spend time up in the Tn/NC mountain's as our camper. Right now, it is me and my wife plus a lovable dog. Baby soon on the way.

I want the boat to sleep 2 adults and 1 child cozy. I want a usable kitchen and it built to handle a long weekend on the river unplugged and extendable stay at times. She won't be used for week long trips across the ocean, so we don't need to be self sufficient nor roomy enough to spend 72 hours IN. When we go up to NC, it will be with the intent to spend time hiking and exploring, using the boat as a way to enjoy those glorious lakes in the area (and free camper!).

I also want some creature comforts. A degree of climate control. I am not sure what this means yet. It gets very, very, very muggy here and anyone who lives in the deep south knows what I mean. It sucks and it can ruin a camping outing quickly. I have a tolerance for it (Boy Scout as a youth, avid camper) but my wife has close to none. This is why I am contemplating a small AC unit. Westboro builds a small 5400 BTU unit designed for installation in very small spaces that would cool the interior well. It would require some hefty batteries, though or a 2k generator... hence the question on electrical design.


So. Shoot away. Tips, opinions, ideas... anyone know of some free cad software with boats in mind? I wouldn't mind some modeling of the project. I plan on spending now till March (cold season) planning and prepping and then using the spring (non hot/humid as hades) time here to work on it.

Thanks!

Edit: I tried searching for my old threads showing my progress, but the search function appears broken. I have 2. One from last nov/dec that showed the boat when I got it and one from late this summer that shows how gorgeous she looks top deck now.

 

[russlmiller]

Hello. I am very interested in following your redo. I have a 1973 22oday and will be starting the same refit soon. I live east of Cleveland but keep her in the water in Vonore on the little Tennessee river. Post lots of pics and I will do the same
Russ & Donna, SV Tying the Knot

 

[ChattOday]

Take a look here:
http://forums.oday.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=1047181&highlight=

This is the initial refurbishing project I did over the Spring and Summer to the exterior of the boat. The deck had numerous weak spots and every screw hole and light mount, rub rial, everything leaked. So, I stripped the entire deck down. Dried it out. Firmed up the weak spots and re-did every bit of wood. Then I sealed the entire thing and re-painted it.

It took a lot longer than I wanted, but the end result is great. You will notice in those photos that my deck appears "tacky". I painted kiwi grip onto it, as painting over the original coat lost the factory non-skid which left a lot to be desired, anyway. It is great and I highly recommend it. After about a week it softens to a nice rubbery feel under the feet, while at the same time looking great. I mean, it is sexy how good it looks.

Edit: I just noticed. You can't tell. I forget how white the new paint is and the sun doesn't help.

I will def. post photos as I go; but I would love suggestions as well. I won't start to actually tackle it until the spring.

 

[Apex]

chatt:I like the thinking about re-using ideas from the camper world w/sliding components etc. I think what has kept manufacturers from such "novel" space saving ideas is having to build for seas: things need to be robust. So simple systmes tend to hold up better. If you are sailing on rivers, then heavy seas are less likely, and can open you up to more opportunity.

the other thought is some bulkheads are really needed in the position they were originally installed for hull and deck integrity. I don't know your particular boat, so this is a thought starter for you.

re AC: others have installed small window units as an inexpensive alternative. We use one dockside placed on the bridgedeck.

Good luck on your project, sounds like fun!

 

[ChattOday]

No intention of removing any structural fiberglass body components. I will incorporate them into my design. I am fully aware that the internal fiberglass composition is part of the rigid interior shell that helps keep the hull strong. I only removed the sink/shelf area and the wall between the rear and front berth.

The wood supports will remain. I will cut a few additional access ports, but that is about it.

 

[Brian S]

Small boat A/C

Quite a few folks have taken the "portable" A/C units, the kind that stand in the middle of the room, and hook the exhaust through a pipe to a window, and have adapted them to their boats. Here's one on a Hunter 23.5: http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/precision/index.cgi?read=99109,air,conditioner

You could make a custom drop board to hold the exhaust pipe… I think others have made a piece that can fit into an opening port like the kind that come on Precisions now.

Brian

Take a look here:
http://forums.oday.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=1047181&highlight=

This is the initial refurbishing project I did over the Spring and Summer to the exterior of the boat. The deck had numerous weak spots and every screw hole and light mount, rub rial, everything leaked. So, I stripped the entire deck down. Dried it out. Firmed up the weak spots and re-did every bit of wood. Then I sealed the entire thing and re-painted it.

It took a lot longer than I wanted, but the end result is great. You will notice in those photos that my deck appears "tacky". I painted kiwi grip onto it, as painting over the original coat lost the factory non-skid which left a lot to be desired, anyway. It is great and I highly recommend it. After about a week it softens to a nice rubbery feel under the feet, while at the same time looking great. I mean, it is sexy how good it looks.

Edit: I just noticed. You can't tell. I forget how white the new paint is and the sun doesn't help.

I will def. post photos as I go; but I would love suggestions as well. I won't start to actually tackle it until the spring.

 

[Brian S]

Oh, also, if you need shore power, but just for limited stuff, check out this idea from the Left Coast Dart folks: http://www.leftcoast.biz/iWeb/Left_Coast/AC_deck_plate.html

Brian