I am looking at buying a 22 Oday, 1974 vintage. What is the minimum outboard engine size since the one I am looking at is without motor. And is there any way to install a fuel tank below deck to increse the cockpit area? Thanks mike
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below deck tank
I recently installed a below deck tank on my 1973 oday 22. It's time consuming, but not all that hard. I started by leveling the boat on the trailer. Then I crawled into the back in through the starboard quarterberth with a piece of 3/4 inch plywood cut slightly larger than my 13 gallon tank. I then created foam supports in the shape of the hull (later to be done in 2x6's) to hold the plywood and tank level. You'll want to fiberglass the 2x6's and the plywood to strengthen them and then glass the 2x6's to the hull. (be sure to wear a particulate mask) Finally screw the plywood to the 2x6's and attack the tank. Run your fuel fill, line and vent to the outside, (mines right by the tiller). Hopefully you're not a big as I am. I'm 250 pounds and found the back end of my boat to be quite cramped. Good luck, and if you have any questions please feel free to call me a (509) 454-7990. Oh, buy the way I use a Honda 9.9, but before that I had a tohatsu 5 that was more than adaquate.
I recently installed a below deck tank on my 1973 oday 22. It's time consuming, but not all that hard. I started by leveling the boat on the trailer. Then I crawled into the back in through the starboard quarterberth with a piece of 3/4 inch plywood cut slightly larger than my 13 gallon tank. I then created foam supports in the shape of the hull (later to be done in 2x6's) to hold the plywood and tank level. You'll want to fiberglass the 2x6's and the plywood to strengthen them and then glass the 2x6's to the hull. (be sure to wear a particulate mask) Finally screw the plywood to the 2x6's and attack the tank. Run your fuel fill, line and vent to the outside, (mines right by the tiller). Hopefully you're not a big as I am. I'm 250 pounds and found the back end of my boat to be quite cramped. Good luck, and if you have any questions please feel free to call me a (509) 454-7990. Oh, buy the way I use a Honda 9.9, but before that I had a tohatsu 5 that was more than adaquate.
7 HP
I have an older Envinrude 9.9 that does nicely. I would personally not want to go lower than about 7 HP. While my 9.9 was in the shop I borrowed a Nissan 5 (same as a Tohatsu 5, I think) and found the performace lacking. It moved OK, but had to be at WOT to do so, and used LOTS of gas in the process. Not much in the way of reserve power. If I were out in LI Sound and trying to come into the harbor against the tide, it would have taken a long time. With the 9.9 I have no concerns and I estimate top speed is increased by about 40%-50%. Yeah, it's a sailboat but it comes in handy avoiding the ferry and going from the mooring to the dock. I will say it was nice to have a light engine to move the motor mount up and down. The 9.9 is too heavy to do this with any easy - I tilt it instead. I'm not inclined to add a below-decks tank. I like being about to take it out and refill at the gas station, check fuel level easily, and I doubt I'll use more than 6 gallons a season. The Nissan 5 had in integral tank and is was very nice to have that locker available so I understand why you would want that space freeded up.
I have an older Envinrude 9.9 that does nicely. I would personally not want to go lower than about 7 HP. While my 9.9 was in the shop I borrowed a Nissan 5 (same as a Tohatsu 5, I think) and found the performace lacking. It moved OK, but had to be at WOT to do so, and used LOTS of gas in the process. Not much in the way of reserve power. If I were out in LI Sound and trying to come into the harbor against the tide, it would have taken a long time. With the 9.9 I have no concerns and I estimate top speed is increased by about 40%-50%. Yeah, it's a sailboat but it comes in handy avoiding the ferry and going from the mooring to the dock. I will say it was nice to have a light engine to move the motor mount up and down. The 9.9 is too heavy to do this with any easy - I tilt it instead. I'm not inclined to add a below-decks tank. I like being about to take it out and refill at the gas station, check fuel level easily, and I doubt I'll use more than 6 gallons a season. The Nissan 5 had in integral tank and is was very nice to have that locker available so I understand why you would want that space freeded up.
Fumes and Grounding Concerns
Though internal fuel tanks can be added to many sailboat designs, I would take cautions in two areas. It is imperative that you install overboard venting and some type of grounding system. It is possible to generate a spark that could ignite vapors when filling an ungrounded tank, even plastic ones. That is why filling stations caution you to not hold a tank while filling. The only other comment I would make is that spare no expense on the proper fittings and hoses on internal tanks because leaking from permanent locations usually ends up in the bilge where vapors can trap and become very explosive.
Though internal fuel tanks can be added to many sailboat designs, I would take cautions in two areas. It is imperative that you install overboard venting and some type of grounding system. It is possible to generate a spark that could ignite vapors when filling an ungrounded tank, even plastic ones. That is why filling stations caution you to not hold a tank while filling. The only other comment I would make is that spare no expense on the proper fittings and hoses on internal tanks because leaking from permanent locations usually ends up in the bilge where vapors can trap and become very explosive.
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michael
tank and long shaft
thanks for the tips, I think I may give it a try this winter when the boat is in storage. how about the motor, does it need to be a long shaft or is a standard outboard ok? thanks mike
thanks for the tips, I think I may give it a try this winter when the boat is in storage. how about the motor, does it need to be a long shaft or is a standard outboard ok? thanks mike
32 Years Experience
I picked up my 1972 O'Day 22 at the factory 32 years ago! Its been a good solid boat all these years. As to engine.....I started out with a Johnson 4 HP (long shart). This engine had an "on engine" fuel tank, so I carried an extra 2 gal. plastic jug. Worked fine. I now have a Evinrude 6 HP long shaft. This is an excellent set-up. One of the most important things to consider is "weight".....the less, the better! Don't put in an internal fuel tank. Too many possable problems & its dangerous. Also, your insurance company won't like it. You can purchase a 6 gal. portable outboard tank & strap it on the deck against the transom. As its under the tiller, it really does not take up much useable space in the cockpit. Good Luck!
I picked up my 1972 O'Day 22 at the factory 32 years ago! Its been a good solid boat all these years. As to engine.....I started out with a Johnson 4 HP (long shart). This engine had an "on engine" fuel tank, so I carried an extra 2 gal. plastic jug. Worked fine. I now have a Evinrude 6 HP long shaft. This is an excellent set-up. One of the most important things to consider is "weight".....the less, the better! Don't put in an internal fuel tank. Too many possable problems & its dangerous. Also, your insurance company won't like it. You can purchase a 6 gal. portable outboard tank & strap it on the deck against the transom. As its under the tiller, it really does not take up much useable space in the cockpit. Good Luck!
Additional Suggestion
You can purchase ready made storage compartments that can be cut into the under seat area on the port side...check with West Marine or Defenders Marine. What you would want is an open front (no vent problems) that is deep enought to accept the portable ontboard fuel tank. You can also build such a compartment, using a plywood plug or form. (Maybe too much work!)
You can purchase ready made storage compartments that can be cut into the under seat area on the port side...check with West Marine or Defenders Marine. What you would want is an open front (no vent problems) that is deep enought to accept the portable ontboard fuel tank. You can also build such a compartment, using a plywood plug or form. (Maybe too much work!)
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