I'm interested in exploring the possibility of owning an Oday 20, and plan to trailer sail this as opposed to having on a boat slip. However I overlooked the maximum towing weight of my Honda CRV. I love my CRV but it cannot handle this size boat. It was suggested I consider a flying scot instead of the Oday 20. I'd be interested in hearing anyone's thoughts on this Oday 20 model as far as pros/cons, etc. I'd also would like to hear suggestions for a towing vehicle. I would only consider a Toyota or Honda brand. Would a pickup truck style/4Runner style be a better choice? I cringe at the thought of filling the gas tank though.............
Oday 20 towing
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towing with a mini van
I can not say for an oday20 but I had an 18' ski boat with 150 hp motor and an 1986 dodge min van. I towed this boat for a steady 700 miles when I moved and then continued to tow this boat to and from the lake for 3 years. The van never gave up till it was wrecked. This was great for that van as their transmistions were not all that good to start with. I now use my 1999 F150 extended cab PU to tow my sail boats which are a 23' islander swimg keel and an oday 22. If I were you and you wanted to tow a 20' boat I would get a larger vehical. You could read the manuel to see what honda says about towing or call the dealer.
I can not say for an oday20 but I had an 18' ski boat with 150 hp motor and an 1986 dodge min van. I towed this boat for a steady 700 miles when I moved and then continued to tow this boat to and from the lake for 3 years. The van never gave up till it was wrecked. This was great for that van as their transmistions were not all that good to start with. I now use my 1999 F150 extended cab PU to tow my sail boats which are a 23' islander swimg keel and an oday 22. If I were you and you wanted to tow a 20' boat I would get a larger vehical. You could read the manuel to see what honda says about towing or call the dealer.
O'Day 20 towing
Have you looked into the possibility of joining a yacht club? I did the trailer-sailing thing for about eight years, and it was fun but a lot of work. It wasn't worth sticking my boat in the water unless I could go for an overnighter, and even then, I was always worried about someone vandalizing my truck and trailer. At the yacht club that I belong to, I was able to leave my boat sitting on the trailer with the mast up and use it whenever I wanted to. This was before I started using bottom paint and renting a mooring at the club. I now leave it in the water. At least at our club, I never have to worry about my truck when I leave for a two or three day voyage out to the bay. If you're lucky, you may find a club that is pretty reasonable with a club house, ramp, and plenty of live docking space, along with a good mooring field. we have an ice machine in our club that makes over 100 LBS of ice. I never had to buy ice all last year. Each time before I left the club to go home, I'd fill a 24 quart cooler with ice from the club and stick it into my freezer for the next cruise. Years ago, I towed my 1986 O'Day 222 with my 1984 Delta 88 Olds, and it towed great, both on the road and up steep ramps. I'm using a 2001 GMC Pickup 4.8 L engine with a cap and complete towing package, and that works out great. Good luck! Joe
Have you looked into the possibility of joining a yacht club? I did the trailer-sailing thing for about eight years, and it was fun but a lot of work. It wasn't worth sticking my boat in the water unless I could go for an overnighter, and even then, I was always worried about someone vandalizing my truck and trailer. At the yacht club that I belong to, I was able to leave my boat sitting on the trailer with the mast up and use it whenever I wanted to. This was before I started using bottom paint and renting a mooring at the club. I now leave it in the water. At least at our club, I never have to worry about my truck when I leave for a two or three day voyage out to the bay. If you're lucky, you may find a club that is pretty reasonable with a club house, ramp, and plenty of live docking space, along with a good mooring field. we have an ice machine in our club that makes over 100 LBS of ice. I never had to buy ice all last year. Each time before I left the club to go home, I'd fill a 24 quart cooler with ice from the club and stick it into my freezer for the next cruise. Years ago, I towed my 1986 O'Day 222 with my 1984 Delta 88 Olds, and it towed great, both on the road and up steep ramps. I'm using a 2001 GMC Pickup 4.8 L engine with a cap and complete towing package, and that works out great. Good luck! Joe
Let you in on a little secret.
Do you think it would be nice to be able to tow a 3500 lb trailer sailor O'Day and still get a decent mileage vehicle? You could tow a 222 O'day with a low center of gravity type vehicle that has the weight to be safe to tow at interstate speeds. If you want to buy a new one you will need to act quickly as your Toyota love is taking it's market share away. You will have a V8 motor with 32 valves and conventional automatic transmission with a lock-up torkconverter, a rear axle drive line, 28 to 32 MPG cross country. The very same power train you'll find in a half ton Pickup truck. A full body on frame vehicle with plenty of passenger room and sail and gear storage, plus a ride that can't be beat. This 1/2 ton pick-up is the Crown Victoria, Grand Marquise, Lincoln Town Car. Yup they are an F-150 in a sheep's skin. And if you wanna tow even more 5000 lbs get the sport / performance models as they feature the 410 axle ratio and dual exhaust and the load leveling suspension. When you read your consumer reports they do very well too. Maintenous and repair are very low and they run forever. The highway patrols like them because of the low center of gravity that the full frame provides along with the more even distribution of the power train, they can go sideways very well without flipping as they sometimes do during a high speed chase. Yup ,,,,old fashioned but they will do a good job for you. Plus do it well. Forgotten ,, but not completely gone,,,,,,,,, yet. I plan on getting the most fully loaded Town Car I can find to tow my 222 O'Day from northern Ohio to the Chesapeake Bay a couple times a year.
Do you think it would be nice to be able to tow a 3500 lb trailer sailor O'Day and still get a decent mileage vehicle? You could tow a 222 O'day with a low center of gravity type vehicle that has the weight to be safe to tow at interstate speeds. If you want to buy a new one you will need to act quickly as your Toyota love is taking it's market share away. You will have a V8 motor with 32 valves and conventional automatic transmission with a lock-up torkconverter, a rear axle drive line, 28 to 32 MPG cross country. The very same power train you'll find in a half ton Pickup truck. A full body on frame vehicle with plenty of passenger room and sail and gear storage, plus a ride that can't be beat. This 1/2 ton pick-up is the Crown Victoria, Grand Marquise, Lincoln Town Car. Yup they are an F-150 in a sheep's skin. And if you wanna tow even more 5000 lbs get the sport / performance models as they feature the 410 axle ratio and dual exhaust and the load leveling suspension. When you read your consumer reports they do very well too. Maintenous and repair are very low and they run forever. The highway patrols like them because of the low center of gravity that the full frame provides along with the more even distribution of the power train, they can go sideways very well without flipping as they sometimes do during a high speed chase. Yup ,,,,old fashioned but they will do a good job for you. Plus do it well. Forgotten ,, but not completely gone,,,,,,,,, yet. I plan on getting the most fully loaded Town Car I can find to tow my 222 O'Day from northern Ohio to the Chesapeake Bay a couple times a year.
O'day 20 should be okay behind minivan
I have an O'day 192 which is only 200 lbs lighter than the O'day 20 and I have been towing it with my VW Eurovan without difficulty. I would think that either the Honda Odyssey or the Toyota Sienna would probably work even better. Another approach to the tow vehicle puzzle is to keep a "beater" for towing and trips to the lumberyard or dump, then drive a vehicle that gets really good mileage the other 95% of the time. With the cost of gasoline going up and CO2 emissions proportional to fuel consumption, trying to get just one vehicle to do everything seems more and more elusive.
I have an O'day 192 which is only 200 lbs lighter than the O'day 20 and I have been towing it with my VW Eurovan without difficulty. I would think that either the Honda Odyssey or the Toyota Sienna would probably work even better. Another approach to the tow vehicle puzzle is to keep a "beater" for towing and trips to the lumberyard or dump, then drive a vehicle that gets really good mileage the other 95% of the time. With the cost of gasoline going up and CO2 emissions proportional to fuel consumption, trying to get just one vehicle to do everything seems more and more elusive.
very good suggestion
I like the idea of a beater....... I could keep my CRV or even eventually buy a smaller gas efficient Civic and have and old truck for towing the sailboat and general hauling projects, etc.. I agree with your premiss of not being able to have all these attributes in a single attractive gas efficient vehicle. Probably wouldn't be too expensive for the additional insurance for the additional vehicle since it would only need liability coverage.
I like the idea of a beater....... I could keep my CRV or even eventually buy a smaller gas efficient Civic and have and old truck for towing the sailboat and general hauling projects, etc.. I agree with your premiss of not being able to have all these attributes in a single attractive gas efficient vehicle. Probably wouldn't be too expensive for the additional insurance for the additional vehicle since it would only need liability coverage.
Toyota P/U
Any idea of the weight of an Oday 20 with trailor? I'm thinking an old Toyota pickup truck may be a possibility for towing to enable me to have access to various local lakes. Would need to know towing weight to determine which Toyota P/U would be sufficient to tow. Thanks.
Any idea of the weight of an Oday 20 with trailor? I'm thinking an old Toyota pickup truck may be a possibility for towing to enable me to have access to various local lakes. Would need to know towing weight to determine which Toyota P/U would be sufficient to tow. Thanks.
Figure 2400-2500 lbs total
The boat is supposed to weigh 1600, a trailer that size is 600-700 lbs and then there is the outboard, cooler full of drinks, etc..
The boat is supposed to weigh 1600, a trailer that size is 600-700 lbs and then there is the outboard, cooler full of drinks, etc..
save money, rent a slip
i have an oday 20 and my advise is to rent a slip. it is probably cheaper than buying a new vechicle. the first years depreciation alone will could cost more than 3 years rent. a tow vechicle will most likely will be a gas hog and have higher insurance rates.
i have an oday 20 and my advise is to rent a slip. it is probably cheaper than buying a new vechicle. the first years depreciation alone will could cost more than 3 years rent. a tow vechicle will most likely will be a gas hog and have higher insurance rates.
Minivan works for me
I have a 19' O'day Mariner (weighing in at about 1,300 Lbs - not including 6 hp outboard). I have towed the boat easily with a 2006 Toyota Sienna (loaded with 3 kids and 2 adults) more than 180 miles. Have also towed the Mariner shorter distances with a '97 Dodge Caravan (208,000 on the original tranny so I try to take it easy on this vehicle). The one caution I have heard from others about using a front wheel drive minivan is the possibility of the wheels slipping when retrieving the boat at a launching ramp. I have not experienced that yet...probably becuase the ramps I have used were not steep. Good luck,
I have a 19' O'day Mariner (weighing in at about 1,300 Lbs - not including 6 hp outboard). I have towed the boat easily with a 2006 Toyota Sienna (loaded with 3 kids and 2 adults) more than 180 miles. Have also towed the Mariner shorter distances with a '97 Dodge Caravan (208,000 on the original tranny so I try to take it easy on this vehicle). The one caution I have heard from others about using a front wheel drive minivan is the possibility of the wheels slipping when retrieving the boat at a launching ramp. I have not experienced that yet...probably becuase the ramps I have used were not steep. Good luck,
Minivan works for me
I have a 19' O'day Mariner (weighing in at about 1,300 Lbs - not including 6 hp outboard). I have towed the boat easily with a 2006 Toyota Sienna (loaded with 3 kids and 2 adults) more than 180 miles. Have also towed the Mariner shorter distances with a '97 Dodge Caravan (208,000 on the original tranny so I try to take it easy on this vehicle). The one caution I have heard from others about using a front wheel drive minivan is the possibility of the wheels slipping when retrieving the boat at a launching ramp. I have not experienced that yet...probably becuase the ramps I have used were not steep. Good luck,
I have a 19' O'day Mariner (weighing in at about 1,300 Lbs - not including 6 hp outboard). I have towed the boat easily with a 2006 Toyota Sienna (loaded with 3 kids and 2 adults) more than 180 miles. Have also towed the Mariner shorter distances with a '97 Dodge Caravan (208,000 on the original tranny so I try to take it easy on this vehicle). The one caution I have heard from others about using a front wheel drive minivan is the possibility of the wheels slipping when retrieving the boat at a launching ramp. I have not experienced that yet...probably becuase the ramps I have used were not steep. Good luck,
oday20 behind a Toyota Sienna is fine
My 2001 Toyota Sienna pulls and launches our Oday20 just fine. It has 3500 lb towing capacity. But since we got a slip, I've yet to take it out of the water. It's a lot of work to raise the sail (and if you go this route, look up some of the techniques to step the sail with block and tackle - we had a few close calls...)
My 2001 Toyota Sienna pulls and launches our Oday20 just fine. It has 3500 lb towing capacity. But since we got a slip, I've yet to take it out of the water. It's a lot of work to raise the sail (and if you go this route, look up some of the techniques to step the sail with block and tackle - we had a few close calls...)
oday20 behind a Toyota Sienna is fine
My 2001 Toyota Sienna pulls and launches our Oday20 just fine. It has 3500 lb towing capacity. But since we got a slip, I've yet to take it out of the water. It's a lot of work to raise the sail (and if you go this route, look up some of the techniques to step the sail with block and tackle - we had a few close calls...)
My 2001 Toyota Sienna pulls and launches our Oday20 just fine. It has 3500 lb towing capacity. But since we got a slip, I've yet to take it out of the water. It's a lot of work to raise the sail (and if you go this route, look up some of the techniques to step the sail with block and tackle - we had a few close calls...)
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