oday 19'ers in SE WI?

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Apr 23, 2013
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Oday 19 backyard
Are there any O'day 19 or similar owners in southeast WI who may be willing to show me how their boat is set up. I purchased a 19 this winter and ordered the manual for it. still have a few questions about running lines and such. any help (even detail pics) would be greatly appreciated.
 
Mar 12, 2013
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Oday 25 Milwaukee
My Oday 25 is parked in a slip on the KK river. Not sure of the similarities though.
 
Apr 23, 2013
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Oday 19 backyard
well you're quite close to me. Not sure either as to the similarities. I wouldn't mind taking a look sometime if you have time. My biggest concern is getting the lines correct for the main sail.
Judging by your username, you and I may have something in common. I currently use Pro-E and Autocad.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Catalina 310 278 Lyndeborough NH
Are there any O'day 19 or similar owners in southeast WI who may be willing to show me how their boat is set up. I purchased a 19 this winter and ordered the manual for it. still have a few questions about running lines and such. any help (even detail pics) would be greatly appreciated.
Although I am not anywhere near you, I do have an O'Day 19 and could answer many of your questions.

My first question for you is what specific model "O'Day 19" do you have?

There are differences in the rigging between the models. And then too, previous owners probably made alterations for better or worse.

O'Day made four 19-foot long models that people often erroneously group together. Photos on I_Heart_O'Days mix the O'Day 19 (and 192) and the Rhodes 19 or Mariner 19.

The Rhodes 19 is the oldest model and is still manufactured today by Stuart Marine. It has a vertical transom, cockpit does not go fully back to the transom, and not much of a "cabin" for human occupancy. It can be either a swing keel or a fixed fin/bulb keel.

The Mariner 19 (also still built by Stuart Marine) is basically a Rhodes 19 with a cuddy cabin for overnighting. Again, the transom is vertical.

The O'Day 19 and 192 have a forward sloping transom. Both have a centerboard (the 19 comes fully into the hull giving a 12" draft, while the 192 has a shoal keel-like housing under the hull. Both have a useable cuddy cabin. The 192 has 4 berths while the 19 has only 2.

The O'Day 19 from 1978 to 1980-1/2 had a taller mast closer to 25'. The later O'Day 19 boats had a shorter 23' mast. D&R Marine specifies the MK1 "tall rig" built through 1980-1/2. The change was probably done for stability in windy locations.

Fortunately, all 4 models are (7/8 ?) fractional rigs with one spreader. The forestay does not reach to the top of the mast. They all have outer side shrouds (reach the top of the mast) and shorter inner shrouds (reach the base of the spreaders).

The backstay is larger diameter and should have a triangle plate 2-3 feet from the transom to attach the mainsheet block.

The rest of the running rigging on the O'Day 19/192 is "standard": main halyard, jib halyard, jib sheets, mainsheet, mainsail outhaul, reefing lines. The Rhodes and Mariner add a Cunningham and other additional sail controls.

The halyard and sheet diameters can be as small as 1/4". I like 5/16". 3/8" is easier to handle for some people. For length, the halyards need to go to the top of the mast and back down plus a bit longer especially if routing the lines back to the cockpit - 55' to 65'. Mainsheet needs to go through the mainsheet blocks when the boom is 90° to the mast - about 50' to 60'. The jib sheets are usually a 30' each or 60' for a single piece of line.

Hope this helps you or at least gets you to ask questions.
 
Apr 23, 2013
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Oday 19 backyard
Jepomer - hello, fantastic response. I do indeed have an actual O'Day 19. 1980. It did take me some time to figure out all the different models when I was looking this one up. I only came up with three. LOL

My biggest concern right now is how to run the lines for the main sheet. basically the traveler and such. I was wondering why the previous owner placed lengths of vinyl covered rope on the bow and two places on the stern. I thought he had used them for single handing the mast stepping process. any thoughts?

Previous owner was not much help as the boat went through a divorce. He was the sailor but she got the boat. When I asked her about any details, all she really knew was it was fun to sail....LOL

I will definitely be picking your brain in the near future if you don't mind. I will be trying to set up the rig this weekend. Frost should finally be gone. I'm sure once I try it for real a million more questions will come to mind.

I don't have a lot of experience in general so please excuse any questions that may seem mundane. I took the ASA 101 class last year and did some rental sailing. Easy to set a boat up to sail when all you have to do is hang the sails and go. LOL

Thanks again, and in advance for any help
 
Apr 23, 2013
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Oday 19 backyard
you know, going through your description, I may have the 192. I do have a very short (shoal?) approx 12-18" keel that houses the board. not sure I'd call it 4 berths in the cabin though. the reg paperwork said o'day 19. hmmm more to look into.
 
Nov 9, 2012
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Oday 192 Lake Nockamixon
Here is the O'day 19. Note that there are no windows in the cabin: http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=75

Here is the O'day 192. It has windows, a V-berth, and 2 quarter berths which extend under the cockpit. The quarter berths have a backrest/shelf that allows them to double as settees. http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=38

Both boats come stock with a 3-1 end boom mainsheet attached to a triangle plate installed in-line in the backstay. Others have rigged a traveller for mid-boom sheeting, for example, Joe "Trinkka" on the forum here, who has a 222 - the big sister of the 192. Joe has pics of his traveller either on his profile or in recent posts.

I don't know what you have going on with those vinyl tubing covered lines. In my opinion, when you can't figure out what a PO did with something, and it's not obviously a halyard, sheet, sail control line, or maybe a furler control line, take it off if it bugs you, until you figure you need it.

Stock rig on a 192 should be wire luff Schaefer jib furler (not for jib reefing, just furling), jib and main halyard, jib sheets, boom end main sheet, boom vang, main outhaul, boom downhaul, and 1 set of reef points. Jib sheets are either led to a Schaefer fairlead/cam cleat on the cabin top, or to optional winches on the cabin top. 110% jib.

Hope this helps,
Brian
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Catalina 310 278 Lyndeborough NH
you know, going through your description, I may have the 192. I do have a very short (shoal?) approx 12-18" keel that houses the board. not sure I'd call it 4 berths in the cabin though. the reg paperwork said o'day 19. hmmm more to look into.
Look at the keel in the line drawing on this link. It drops down about 12 inches on the 192. The 19 is relatively close, dropping only a couple of inches.

sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=38

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What is your boat's HIN?

The HIN will be a definitive answer.

The HIN on O'Day sailboats is easy to see. It is located on the starboard transom.

The Hull Identification Number decodes like this:
nasbla.org/files/public/Enf%20&%20Training/NASBLA%20HIN%20comp.pdf

XDY - First Three Characters identify O'Day as the manufacturer

Fourth Character is the model
C --> O'Day 19 (525 built 1979 to 1985)
E --> O'Day 192 (??? built 1986 to 1989)

Fifth through Eighth Characters are the "hull" and/or "sail" number
Ninth through Twelfth Characters describe the model year and build date

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My O'Day HIN is: XDY C 0453 M 83 B

XDY --> O'Day
C --> 19
0453 --> Hull/Sail number
M --> Model Year format
83 --> 1983 model year
B --> February
 
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