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Hey Greg, check this out....
The details you seek are available from the Conch Cruisers - but not that easy to find i.e. not from the forum. If you read over the individual ship "logs" for the past trips you will find these stories a wealth of information. Also, they may be willing to share a "skippers kit" with you - and that has all the contact, navigation and customs information in it. Just a thought... Chris
The details you seek are available from the Conch Cruisers - but not that easy to find i.e. not from the forum. If you read over the individual ship "logs" for the past trips you will find these stories a wealth of information. Also, they may be willing to share a "skippers kit" with you - and that has all the contact, navigation and customs information in it. Just a thought... Chris
good idea
I thik I am leaning towards homestead, it seems we could leave our boat and trailer there for a fee but in safety and the angle to Bimini should be a bit better. Thanks
I thik I am leaning towards homestead, it seems we could leave our boat and trailer there for a fee but in safety and the angle to Bimini should be a bit better. Thanks
main sail measurements
I have more questions. Do you guys know what are the standard measurements for the main sail? My present main has 9'8" foot and 23'6" luff. Since the distance between the boom and the top of the mast is 25', would the standard luff be more like 24' or maybe more? I am planning to get a new main sail. I was looking at the Sail Store http://www.thesailstore.com/macgregor-sails-c-128.html?gclid=CMzJ4tX8548CFRlFQAodiUl9aA the prices are reasonable. Do you have any opinion about their sails? Thanks ,Greg
I have more questions. Do you guys know what are the standard measurements for the main sail? My present main has 9'8" foot and 23'6" luff. Since the distance between the boom and the top of the mast is 25', would the standard luff be more like 24' or maybe more? I am planning to get a new main sail. I was looking at the Sail Store http://www.thesailstore.com/macgregor-sails-c-128.html?gclid=CMzJ4tX8548CFRlFQAodiUl9aA the prices are reasonable. Do you have any opinion about their sails? Thanks ,Greg
Greg
sails: (sorry no main
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/ftldiver/mac/sail1.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/ftldiver/mac/sail3.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/ftldiver/mac/sail4.jpg boat: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/ftldiver/mac/05f1117b.jpg -on crandon, you'd have to pay there too. they have a credit card kiosk, where you pay, and put the slip on your dash... for all to see... -on homestead, the payment is a little more lax, you pay $10 at the gate, and if you tell them you'll be out a week, they'll ask for the other days... I've never seen any parking enforcement at hmstd... often park all weekend, never paid more than 1 day. of course its just 1 truck and trailer.. you can also get a transient slip at hmstd at the seawall, not so sure about crandon. only down side to homestead it the transit to anglefish creek, which will take about 4-5 hours. but it would be my preference... (you can cut thru the FPL channel, and save some time, just watch out for pelican bank. -if you go that route, I can help with a course... (you also have water on east side of channel going towards anglefish (sorry, I forget the channel name) when do you plan to leave?
sails: (sorry no main
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/ftldiver/mac/sail1.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/ftldiver/mac/sail3.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/ftldiver/mac/sail4.jpg boat: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/ftldiver/mac/05f1117b.jpg -on crandon, you'd have to pay there too. they have a credit card kiosk, where you pay, and put the slip on your dash... for all to see... -on homestead, the payment is a little more lax, you pay $10 at the gate, and if you tell them you'll be out a week, they'll ask for the other days... I've never seen any parking enforcement at hmstd... often park all weekend, never paid more than 1 day. of course its just 1 truck and trailer.. you can also get a transient slip at hmstd at the seawall, not so sure about crandon. only down side to homestead it the transit to anglefish creek, which will take about 4-5 hours. but it would be my preference... (you can cut thru the FPL channel, and save some time, just watch out for pelican bank. -if you go that route, I can help with a course... (you also have water on east side of channel going towards anglefish (sorry, I forget the channel name) when do you plan to leave?parking the trailer
Hi Bill THanks for more info about parking. Now I know I can leave the boat and the trailer at Homestead. Can I do the same thing at Crandon? I read that trailers may not be left overnight at Crandon. Only cars. Apparently they tell you where to leave the trailer and charge some fee, $200 or $250 per month or so. Do you know anything about it? What about if I will be out 3 weeks. Which parking would you recommend? I still have time to decide so I don't know exactly what route I will take, but thanks for the offer. THe Angel Creek way seems complicated. We would like to leave right after X-mas, depending on the winds. Hi Bob...thanks for the sail measurements. i ordered the main and told them to make it ...24'9" luff and 10' foot. that should do...
Hi Bill THanks for more info about parking. Now I know I can leave the boat and the trailer at Homestead. Can I do the same thing at Crandon? I read that trailers may not be left overnight at Crandon. Only cars. Apparently they tell you where to leave the trailer and charge some fee, $200 or $250 per month or so. Do you know anything about it? What about if I will be out 3 weeks. Which parking would you recommend? I still have time to decide so I don't know exactly what route I will take, but thanks for the offer. THe Angel Creek way seems complicated. We would like to leave right after X-mas, depending on the winds. Hi Bob...thanks for the sail measurements. i ordered the main and told them to make it ...24'9" luff and 10' foot. that should do...
crandon marina
I'd give them a call and ask. http://www.miamidade.gov/parks/parks/crandon_marina.asp I had not heard overnight was now not allowed... (that news to me). What they have is a fenced gate area for longer term storage, a nice marina, w/ fuel and limited stores, and a ramp, with parking for cars and trailers. cars and trailers (were) $10/day. They installed a park and pay machine to collect the fees, I used the ramp once or twice (2-3 day weekend), last year, and had no problem parking for several days... (I launched friday night), this time of year it should not be bad, but in summer its very very busy. I think you could park there for $10/day legally. and it would be shorter jump off point, and its a 24 hr ramp, so you could launch and go.. (I'd recommend going out south of key biscayne thru biscayne channel, vs north thru 'govt cut'. (govt cut could be a little rougher than the southern route, and its longer). security for your vehicle is less than at homestead... just dont leave anything visable... it should not be any worse than leaving your vehicle at an unattended parking lot, in any major city for a few weeks.... the risk is higher, but just not sure of how much higher. Theres a small lagoon (actually part of bill baggs state park) on south of key biscayne that would be a good (paid) anchorage. very close to the biscayne channel. yes, angelfish creek is a good day or half day trip from homestead... weather has been nice, just got to plan around the north fronts. really don't want to be out in the stream with a North or approaching north front... 12' seas are pretty normal.. fronts come thru about every 5-7 days, so if you can wait (both ways), you should be fine... are you planning on motoring? how much fuel do you carry? and have you tried to refuel at sea? can the motor run for 10-12 hrs straight? (personally, I'd only go if I could sail all or most of way) expect 2-5' rolling seas on a good day. I've not crossed in a mac, so thats why I keep directing you towards the conch's site... lots of lessons learned there.... bill baggs: http://www.floridastateparks.org/capeflorida/ no name harbor: http://www.floridastateparks.org/capeflorida/map.cfm I just read you can take up to 6 conch) but be sure to verify this also, if you plan to fish, bait is pricy if available. I recommend small hair hooks like sabiki rigs, for bait, then use bait for bigger fish. http://allwatersfishing.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=sabiki&search_in_description=1
I'd give them a call and ask. http://www.miamidade.gov/parks/parks/crandon_marina.asp I had not heard overnight was now not allowed... (that news to me). What they have is a fenced gate area for longer term storage, a nice marina, w/ fuel and limited stores, and a ramp, with parking for cars and trailers. cars and trailers (were) $10/day. They installed a park and pay machine to collect the fees, I used the ramp once or twice (2-3 day weekend), last year, and had no problem parking for several days... (I launched friday night), this time of year it should not be bad, but in summer its very very busy. I think you could park there for $10/day legally. and it would be shorter jump off point, and its a 24 hr ramp, so you could launch and go.. (I'd recommend going out south of key biscayne thru biscayne channel, vs north thru 'govt cut'. (govt cut could be a little rougher than the southern route, and its longer). security for your vehicle is less than at homestead... just dont leave anything visable... it should not be any worse than leaving your vehicle at an unattended parking lot, in any major city for a few weeks.... the risk is higher, but just not sure of how much higher. Theres a small lagoon (actually part of bill baggs state park) on south of key biscayne that would be a good (paid) anchorage. very close to the biscayne channel. yes, angelfish creek is a good day or half day trip from homestead... weather has been nice, just got to plan around the north fronts. really don't want to be out in the stream with a North or approaching north front... 12' seas are pretty normal.. fronts come thru about every 5-7 days, so if you can wait (both ways), you should be fine... are you planning on motoring? how much fuel do you carry? and have you tried to refuel at sea? can the motor run for 10-12 hrs straight? (personally, I'd only go if I could sail all or most of way) expect 2-5' rolling seas on a good day. I've not crossed in a mac, so thats why I keep directing you towards the conch's site... lots of lessons learned there.... bill baggs: http://www.floridastateparks.org/capeflorida/ no name harbor: http://www.floridastateparks.org/capeflorida/map.cfm I just read you can take up to 6 conch) but be sure to verify this also, if you plan to fish, bait is pricy if available. I recommend small hair hooks like sabiki rigs, for bait, then use bait for bigger fish. http://allwatersfishing.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=sabiki&search_in_description=1
Crandon seems more realistic
Thanks again Bill I will give them a call. I am curious, what is the maximum wind strength blowing from the north that you could still cross? I have been checking the weather and it seems that at 10-15 knots from the north the conditions should be ok. What do you think? If there is no wind I think motoring should be ok. I have a 15hp 4 stroke so at half throttle can push the boat 5K. It is so quiet , you can hardly hear it running. 3 6gallon cans should be enough to take me straight to Nassau if I had to, though I hope to sail. If it goes to refueling, I think it is just the matter of switching the hose to another tank and it is a snap. I have never motored for 12 hours straight but for 6-8 I have and there was no problem with plenty of gas left in the can. Do you know how choppy it may get on Bahama Banks? Since it is pretty shallow I am assuming no more than 3 foot waves. Let's say we launche at Crandon. Do you know any walmart or supermarket nearby where we can stock up? Can I fill my 50gal water tank at Crandon with clorinated ( city) water for free? If not, where can I do it? If they have a public washroom at Crandon I guess I could use the washroom water. Have a good day...
Thanks again Bill I will give them a call. I am curious, what is the maximum wind strength blowing from the north that you could still cross? I have been checking the weather and it seems that at 10-15 knots from the north the conditions should be ok. What do you think? If there is no wind I think motoring should be ok. I have a 15hp 4 stroke so at half throttle can push the boat 5K. It is so quiet , you can hardly hear it running. 3 6gallon cans should be enough to take me straight to Nassau if I had to, though I hope to sail. If it goes to refueling, I think it is just the matter of switching the hose to another tank and it is a snap. I have never motored for 12 hours straight but for 6-8 I have and there was no problem with plenty of gas left in the can. Do you know how choppy it may get on Bahama Banks? Since it is pretty shallow I am assuming no more than 3 foot waves. Let's say we launche at Crandon. Do you know any walmart or supermarket nearby where we can stock up? Can I fill my 50gal water tank at Crandon with clorinated ( city) water for free? If not, where can I do it? If they have a public washroom at Crandon I guess I could use the washroom water. Have a good day...
gulf stream
this time of year, I would not think of crossing with the wind from north to north ease, even at 10 knts. because of the current running opposite of the wind, causes a 'rage', normally.... I don't think you really understand what you're up against... no kidding 8-12' is normal. 15-20' on a bad day. no chance to motor in that. motor will cavitate and burn up water pump. might want to post on the abaco fourms and get another opinion... or read some more stories from ships a sea... if wind is from west, front is approaching in less than a day. E to SE is what you want... which is of course on the nose, thus why many motor. not sure if you've tried to motor in 2-4' seas, but you mph will go way down. you want to bring 20% extra fuel just in case... you may actually need it. few can get away with crossing with north winds. maybe 1-2 days after a front passes, but if wind is still out of north, it means the front has not passed, or another is on way. (why its called a weather window, only open for a little while) I think you will use over just about 15 gals crossing, (you want another 6-10 gals) and I would rethink how you will refill the tanks from jugs in a 5' sea... (I have a 10' clear hose that fits over my jug spout.) I have never crossed in less than 3-4' seas... even with no wind there is normally a sea.. a few days a year in summer it gets flat and glassy, but not in dec/jan. yes you can get city water at dock, or ramp. no big stores close to key biscayne. there is a grocery(publix or winndixie) futher east on the key for the residents, fair selection, higher prices. on us1 south of key biscayne ther e are probably some big box stores. or coral gables... I have no recommendations for hotels in miami for you. (less than 100/night) homestead has all the stores, discount outlets, and motels. keybiscaye is a resort community, and hotels in season should run you $200/night or more. thus my preference for hmstd. please get the eprib! bring a charged cell phone, and a vhf... I'd add impeller and spark plugs for the ob, and some quick start. I assume you plan to leave around midnight? for morning/noon arrival? and you have explorer chart for bimini? bimini enterance can be tricky... shifting sands.. I wish I could talk you into a keys trip instead... maybe make a plan b if its too rough.. hawks channel (outside but inside reef) the banks will not have the large seas the stream has, but it can be rough... (4'-6') and more of a short chop that big rollers... just depends on winds. no protection from bimini to cat cay/berry islands. and thats a full days sail. mostly 10' depth and sandy. you don't want to go to nassau... not in the mac... take a cruise ship there.. more comfortable and cheaper. and safer... nassau can be scarry... I'd still suggest homestead for launch, but thats just me... I like simple easy trips.
this time of year, I would not think of crossing with the wind from north to north ease, even at 10 knts. because of the current running opposite of the wind, causes a 'rage', normally.... I don't think you really understand what you're up against... no kidding 8-12' is normal. 15-20' on a bad day. no chance to motor in that. motor will cavitate and burn up water pump. might want to post on the abaco fourms and get another opinion... or read some more stories from ships a sea... if wind is from west, front is approaching in less than a day. E to SE is what you want... which is of course on the nose, thus why many motor. not sure if you've tried to motor in 2-4' seas, but you mph will go way down. you want to bring 20% extra fuel just in case... you may actually need it. few can get away with crossing with north winds. maybe 1-2 days after a front passes, but if wind is still out of north, it means the front has not passed, or another is on way. (why its called a weather window, only open for a little while) I think you will use over just about 15 gals crossing, (you want another 6-10 gals) and I would rethink how you will refill the tanks from jugs in a 5' sea... (I have a 10' clear hose that fits over my jug spout.) I have never crossed in less than 3-4' seas... even with no wind there is normally a sea.. a few days a year in summer it gets flat and glassy, but not in dec/jan. yes you can get city water at dock, or ramp. no big stores close to key biscayne. there is a grocery(publix or winndixie) futher east on the key for the residents, fair selection, higher prices. on us1 south of key biscayne ther e are probably some big box stores. or coral gables... I have no recommendations for hotels in miami for you. (less than 100/night) homestead has all the stores, discount outlets, and motels. keybiscaye is a resort community, and hotels in season should run you $200/night or more. thus my preference for hmstd. please get the eprib! bring a charged cell phone, and a vhf... I'd add impeller and spark plugs for the ob, and some quick start. I assume you plan to leave around midnight? for morning/noon arrival? and you have explorer chart for bimini? bimini enterance can be tricky... shifting sands.. I wish I could talk you into a keys trip instead... maybe make a plan b if its too rough.. hawks channel (outside but inside reef) the banks will not have the large seas the stream has, but it can be rough... (4'-6') and more of a short chop that big rollers... just depends on winds. no protection from bimini to cat cay/berry islands. and thats a full days sail. mostly 10' depth and sandy. you don't want to go to nassau... not in the mac... take a cruise ship there.. more comfortable and cheaper. and safer... nassau can be scarry... I'd still suggest homestead for launch, but thats just me... I like simple easy trips.
todays weather
http://www.local10.com/beachandboating/832825/detail.html http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/ http://forecast.weather.gov/shmrn.php?mz=amz080 see how the inshore overlooks the n winds... abaco board 1 http://coconuttelegraph.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2 http://abacoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1660 web cam http://www.sunny.org/static/index.cfm?contentID=551 look at the weater today, you could cross now, or last night, you can see the front start to dig to south... http://www.local10.com/wxmap/5426744/detail.html AMZ080-222120- SW N ATLC S OF 31N W OF 65W INCLUDING BAHAMAS 1030 AM EST THU NOV 22 2007 THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT N OF 28N W OF 76W S TO SW WINDS 15 TO 20 KT SHIFTING TO NW 15 TO 20 KT BEHIND FRONT TONIGHT. SEAS 4 TO 6 FT. ELSEWHERE N OF 26N W OF 70W SE TO S WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 5 TO 7 FT IN NE SWELL. N OF 26N E OF 70W N TO NE WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 8 TO 12 FT IN NE SWELL. FROM 23N TO 26N NE TO E WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 3 TO 5 FT EXCEPT 6 TO 9 FT E OF THE BAHAMAS. S OF 23N NE TO E WINDS 15 TO 20 KT...DIMINISHING TO 10 TO 15 KT TONIGHT. SEAS 6 TO 9 FT IN NE SWELL. SCATTERED SHOWERS ALONG THE FRONT LATE TONIGHT. FRI AND FRI NIGHT NW OF FRONT N TO NE WINDS 15 TO 20 KT. SEAS 6 TO 9 FT IN N SWELL. ELSEWHERE N OF 27N SW TO W WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 5 TO 7 FT IN NE SWELL. S OF 27N E WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 2 TO 4 FT W OF THE BAHAMAS AND 6 TO 9 FT IN NE SWELL E OF THE BAHAMAS. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED TSTMS ALONG THE FRONT. SAT N OF 27N NE TO E WINDS 15 TO 20 KT. SEAS 6 TO 9 FT IN N SWELL. FROM 25N TO 27N VARIABLE WINDS 10 KT. SEAS 4 TO 6 FT IN NE SWELL. S OF 25N E WINDS 15 TO 20 KT. SEAS 3 TO 5 FT EXCEPT 6 TO 8 FT IN NE SWELL E OF THE BAHAMAS. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED TSTMS N OF 27N. SUN N OF 24N E TO SE WINDS 15 TO 20 KT. SEAS 6 TO 8 FT IN N AND NE SWELL. S OF 24N E WINDS 20 TO 25 KT. SEAS 5 TO 7 FT W OF THE BAHAMAS AND 6 TO 9 FT E OF THE BAHAMAS. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED TSTMS N OF 28N W OF 70W. MON N OF 26N W OF 75W SE TO S WINDS INCREASING TO 15 TO 20 KT. SEAS 4 TO 6 FT. N OF 26N E OF 75W E TO SE WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 5 TO 7 FT IN N AND NE SWELL. S OF 26N E WINDS 15 TO 20 KT INCREASING TO 20 TO 25 KT S OF 23N. SEAS 5 TO 7 FT W OF THE BAHAMAS...AND 8 TO 10 FT IN E SWELL E OF THE BAHAMAS. ISOLATED SHOWERS S OF 25N.
http://www.local10.com/beachandboating/832825/detail.html http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/ http://forecast.weather.gov/shmrn.php?mz=amz080 see how the inshore overlooks the n winds... abaco board 1 http://coconuttelegraph.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2 http://abacoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1660 web cam http://www.sunny.org/static/index.cfm?contentID=551 look at the weater today, you could cross now, or last night, you can see the front start to dig to south... http://www.local10.com/wxmap/5426744/detail.html AMZ080-222120- SW N ATLC S OF 31N W OF 65W INCLUDING BAHAMAS 1030 AM EST THU NOV 22 2007 THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT N OF 28N W OF 76W S TO SW WINDS 15 TO 20 KT SHIFTING TO NW 15 TO 20 KT BEHIND FRONT TONIGHT. SEAS 4 TO 6 FT. ELSEWHERE N OF 26N W OF 70W SE TO S WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 5 TO 7 FT IN NE SWELL. N OF 26N E OF 70W N TO NE WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 8 TO 12 FT IN NE SWELL. FROM 23N TO 26N NE TO E WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 3 TO 5 FT EXCEPT 6 TO 9 FT E OF THE BAHAMAS. S OF 23N NE TO E WINDS 15 TO 20 KT...DIMINISHING TO 10 TO 15 KT TONIGHT. SEAS 6 TO 9 FT IN NE SWELL. SCATTERED SHOWERS ALONG THE FRONT LATE TONIGHT. FRI AND FRI NIGHT NW OF FRONT N TO NE WINDS 15 TO 20 KT. SEAS 6 TO 9 FT IN N SWELL. ELSEWHERE N OF 27N SW TO W WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 5 TO 7 FT IN NE SWELL. S OF 27N E WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 2 TO 4 FT W OF THE BAHAMAS AND 6 TO 9 FT IN NE SWELL E OF THE BAHAMAS. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED TSTMS ALONG THE FRONT. SAT N OF 27N NE TO E WINDS 15 TO 20 KT. SEAS 6 TO 9 FT IN N SWELL. FROM 25N TO 27N VARIABLE WINDS 10 KT. SEAS 4 TO 6 FT IN NE SWELL. S OF 25N E WINDS 15 TO 20 KT. SEAS 3 TO 5 FT EXCEPT 6 TO 8 FT IN NE SWELL E OF THE BAHAMAS. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED TSTMS N OF 27N. SUN N OF 24N E TO SE WINDS 15 TO 20 KT. SEAS 6 TO 8 FT IN N AND NE SWELL. S OF 24N E WINDS 20 TO 25 KT. SEAS 5 TO 7 FT W OF THE BAHAMAS AND 6 TO 9 FT E OF THE BAHAMAS. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED TSTMS N OF 28N W OF 70W. MON N OF 26N W OF 75W SE TO S WINDS INCREASING TO 15 TO 20 KT. SEAS 4 TO 6 FT. N OF 26N E OF 75W E TO SE WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 5 TO 7 FT IN N AND NE SWELL. S OF 26N E WINDS 15 TO 20 KT INCREASING TO 20 TO 25 KT S OF 23N. SEAS 5 TO 7 FT W OF THE BAHAMAS...AND 8 TO 10 FT IN E SWELL E OF THE BAHAMAS. ISOLATED SHOWERS S OF 25N.
Sea sickness
Thanks Bill for all the weather links. So far I have ben watching the "weather underground" link. The ones you showed me seem to provide simillar data. Naturally we will have to wait for the window and yes, there is a backup plan. If there is no window we'll just go to the Keys. Naturally if E to SE are the preffered wind directions, maybe it make sense to sail from Homestead. We could sail close hauled all the way plus we would be carried by the current anyway. If necessary we could zigzag. What is your opinion? If to start from Miami we would have to motor or zigzag more. If it goes to motoring in 2-4 foot sea or rather lake ( in my experience), it is completely no problem. the long shaft stays all the time under water. At 6' or more it starts becomming unpredictable so it is safer to sail. Anyway, I don't believe in motoring. Sailboat is to sail and the motor is only as a safety addition, that is why it is called an auxilliary. If it goes to charts I have two Garmin units, plotter, handheld, and a laptop with bluechart on them. But of course I have bunch of papiers too. They give a wider wiew than GPS. I am curious why you discourage me from going to Nassau? It is actually Just a direction but we might not even get to nassau. I would preffere just checking out some islands around Nassau. the passage fro mChb Cay to Nassau seems very short. From some other sailors opinions I gathered that the seas may be high but nowhere as dangerous as the Gulf Stream. Just long, big rollers. Another Subject is sea sickness. Here the lakes can get quite rough but I never seemed to need any pills. Usually body adapts after a few days. We were away form water for over a month and the adaptation is all gone by now. What kind of prevention do you recommned? oral pills, rectal pills, or maybe this wrist band? Have an awesome day..Greg
Thanks Bill for all the weather links. So far I have ben watching the "weather underground" link. The ones you showed me seem to provide simillar data. Naturally we will have to wait for the window and yes, there is a backup plan. If there is no window we'll just go to the Keys. Naturally if E to SE are the preffered wind directions, maybe it make sense to sail from Homestead. We could sail close hauled all the way plus we would be carried by the current anyway. If necessary we could zigzag. What is your opinion? If to start from Miami we would have to motor or zigzag more. If it goes to motoring in 2-4 foot sea or rather lake ( in my experience), it is completely no problem. the long shaft stays all the time under water. At 6' or more it starts becomming unpredictable so it is safer to sail. Anyway, I don't believe in motoring. Sailboat is to sail and the motor is only as a safety addition, that is why it is called an auxilliary. If it goes to charts I have two Garmin units, plotter, handheld, and a laptop with bluechart on them. But of course I have bunch of papiers too. They give a wider wiew than GPS. I am curious why you discourage me from going to Nassau? It is actually Just a direction but we might not even get to nassau. I would preffere just checking out some islands around Nassau. the passage fro mChb Cay to Nassau seems very short. From some other sailors opinions I gathered that the seas may be high but nowhere as dangerous as the Gulf Stream. Just long, big rollers. Another Subject is sea sickness. Here the lakes can get quite rough but I never seemed to need any pills. Usually body adapts after a few days. We were away form water for over a month and the adaptation is all gone by now. What kind of prevention do you recommned? oral pills, rectal pills, or maybe this wrist band? Have an awesome day..Greg
wunderground
Hi Greg, I use wunderground a lot, love the near real time doppler radar. sounds like you have your charts in order, and a good backup plan. just want to discourage sticking to a hard schedule this time of year. if you were watching the latest front, it stalled out over miami, and moved backup N. so N winds didnt have chance to build up in stream. so crossing would have been fine.. ideally, you'd cross just before the front comes thru, on the west winds, and then hole up as it blows thru. this was a weak front, as it turned out... but you never know... it can get ugly fast. hmmmmm, bimini to chub is pretty far. not sure how many miles... comming back from nassau, we left nassau at 10am, w/ East winds of 20knts, at about 6pm (dusk) at marker(#?) ~3mi WSW of chub, and got into gun cay (little south of bimini) at 3 am, maybe 4am by time we anchored up.... avg speed was 8-9knts with some 11's. but no, the banks don't get too rough, was about 4' rolling seas. think you'd need to stop in chub, and its pricy... http://www.chubcay.com/ besides, nassau is a dump! and there is crime... careful, but if you insist, try the nassau yacht haven. & watch the current! about 3knts! If it were me, I'd stick to smaller islands. if you really feel up to a longer voyage, I'd recommend Abaco, Green Turtle has the Junknoo parade 1.1.08 very cool. this is a great abaco source: http://www.drralph.net/Articlesdex.html http://www.drralph.net/TravelinginyourBoat.html you could also go to grand bahama http://www.portlucaya.com/ just found this... looks like you could drop the mast and get thru to abaco from bimini... http://www.pelicanpower.com/AbacoGuide/bimini.htm good luck on sea sickness, I like sweet hard candy... if its really rough, I'm too busy to think about getting sick. just stay out of the cabin. and stay busy... I like ginger ale too. ALSO chk out skypic! http://www.skypic.com/baha.htm#bimini http://www.skypic.com/bahamas/5-9554.jpg
Hi Greg, I use wunderground a lot, love the near real time doppler radar. sounds like you have your charts in order, and a good backup plan. just want to discourage sticking to a hard schedule this time of year. if you were watching the latest front, it stalled out over miami, and moved backup N. so N winds didnt have chance to build up in stream. so crossing would have been fine.. ideally, you'd cross just before the front comes thru, on the west winds, and then hole up as it blows thru. this was a weak front, as it turned out... but you never know... it can get ugly fast. hmmmmm, bimini to chub is pretty far. not sure how many miles... comming back from nassau, we left nassau at 10am, w/ East winds of 20knts, at about 6pm (dusk) at marker(#?) ~3mi WSW of chub, and got into gun cay (little south of bimini) at 3 am, maybe 4am by time we anchored up.... avg speed was 8-9knts with some 11's. but no, the banks don't get too rough, was about 4' rolling seas. think you'd need to stop in chub, and its pricy... http://www.chubcay.com/ besides, nassau is a dump! and there is crime... careful, but if you insist, try the nassau yacht haven. & watch the current! about 3knts! If it were me, I'd stick to smaller islands. if you really feel up to a longer voyage, I'd recommend Abaco, Green Turtle has the Junknoo parade 1.1.08 very cool. this is a great abaco source: http://www.drralph.net/Articlesdex.html http://www.drralph.net/TravelinginyourBoat.html you could also go to grand bahama http://www.portlucaya.com/ just found this... looks like you could drop the mast and get thru to abaco from bimini... http://www.pelicanpower.com/AbacoGuide/bimini.htm good luck on sea sickness, I like sweet hard candy... if its really rough, I'm too busy to think about getting sick. just stay out of the cabin. and stay busy... I like ginger ale too. ALSO chk out skypic! http://www.skypic.com/baha.htm#bimini http://www.skypic.com/bahamas/5-9554.jpg
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