Not so Hot water

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mogade

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Jun 9, 2012
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Catalina 36 Tacoma
Hello all I'm the proud new owner of the Catalina 36 "Mistral". I've replaced all the seawater hoses for the engine cooling system today. Before I tackle the anti-freeze system I thought I would check the hot water. I ran the engine (Universal M25XP) for about 40 minutes at the dock at about 1950 rpm. the engine temperature stayed right about 155. The hot water never really got very hot. Could it be the thermostat?

Thanks all!
Mic in Seattle
 
Apr 2, 2011
185
Catalina 27 Niceville, FL
You are probably not putting enough load on the engine. Get away from the dock and run between 2100 to 2600 rpm and it should warm up. Remember the ships water in the water heater act as a heat exchanger until it gets warm. I doubt you have a problem.
 

jviss

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Feb 5, 2004
7,089
Tartan 3800 20 Westport, MA
Hello all I'm the proud new owner of the Catalina 36 "Mistral". I've replaced all the seawater hoses for the engine cooling system today. Before I tackle the anti-freeze system I thought I would check the hot water. I ran the engine (Universal M25XP) for about 40 minutes at the dock at about 1950 rpm. the engine temperature stayed right about 155. The hot water never really got very hot. Could it be the thermostat?

Thanks all!
Mic in Seattle
I have a C36 with the Universal M25 engine. My water gets hot running the engine at idle; I will certainly have hot water after 40 minutes of idling ('though I usually don't idle at the mooring, I am usually charging batteries while I'm making hot water, so I run it at about 2,000 RPM, in order to get the right speed for the alternator.

Has the water ever gotten hot for you, or is this a new thing since you replaced the seawater hoses?

155º seems low to me. If I recall correctly I have a 170º thermostat in mine. When all is well, it stays right at 170º. Maybe someone put a lower temp thermostat in because the engine was overheating. Do you have the larger heat exchanger, 3", or the original 2"? You should get the 3" heat exchanger if you don't have it.

There should also be a bypass valve that allows you to control how much flow is directed through the domestic water heater. If the valve is closed all the way, all of the engine coolant must pass through the water heater. Under full load, this constriction may result in overheating. But for fastest water heating at the dock or mooring, close this valve all the way. If you anticipate motoring soon, or don't want to keep fooling with it, keep it 1/2 open and watch for overheating at full load.
 
Feb 6, 2012
41
Catalina 34 lake champlain
Hi,
My thermostat is a 160deg model. The engin does not go over this temp.
Are there different model that should be used ?
I just got the boat like 2 weeks ago.

thanks
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,054
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
There are two thermostats you can obtain: 160 or 180. You need a load on the engine to make hot water, with either one. Idling is not good for your engine.

When you use the electric part of your heater only leave it on for 15 or 20 minutes, then use the hot water up. Then turn it on again. Don't leave it on all the time you're plugged in.

Get in the habit of using the hot water tap even if you don't have hot water, it keeps the water running through the heater and avoids rotten egg odor.

You may be interested in our Critical Upgrades topic on our C34 Forum, and you should join the C36IA and its forum, too (www.c36ia.org)

http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,5078.0.html

We upgraded our old 2 inch HX to the 3 inch size years ago.

Read the whole topic jviss linked to, it has other good links, too.

Welcome aboard.
 
Feb 6, 2012
41
Catalina 34 lake champlain
Hi
Thanks for the answer.
Yes I started going over all text on the C34 org .
Specially the critical upgrade. Tons of infermations.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,054
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
The C36 was unique in that it had the unusual plumbing jviss described.

I recommend going to the C36 Forum and discussing it. Tom Sokoloski deleted his.
 
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