Not Sea worthy???

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Sep 11, 2007
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PSC FLICKA seattle wa
Not Going Anywhere

Me not going anywhere.... Yes, I was attacked in a sarcastic manner by rich and his punky mainer friend... Now, I stand tall and can give it out just as well...
 
Sep 11, 2007
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PSC FLICKA seattle wa
Maine

Maine, you opened the door by jumping into something between me and rich... So yes, you clean his bildges and defend him... Yes, I let your stoic frozen mainer right wing butt know what I think about you....
 
Sep 11, 2007
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PSC FLICKA seattle wa
INFACT...

INFACT, if bRich does not appologize.... I will follow him in every forum and not let this GO..... So now he has a third day to reconsider....
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,711
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
I would not..

I would not know Rich if I stepped on his toe nor you. Maine is a big state, just like WA, so should I assume you are friends with every poster from WA state. You and Rich are just as anonymous as anyone on this board to me and your broad based generalizations and stereo types are... well... rude! Please clarify for me how I became a punk and how I am deserving of your slanderous insults when I NEVER insulted you and only gave an outsiders, third party view of the thread in question? I never participated in that thread but did happen to read it and was personally horrified by your perception that Rich attacked you. If he were from CA, FL, TX or MA I'd still read it the SAME way and I'd still stand up for him.
 
Feb 12, 2007
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Ericson 25 Oshkosh, WI
Serenity

Michael- I think Phil is probably going to step in pretty soon. I think you are over reacting and you should really think about your threats if you want to stay on this forum.
 
Sep 11, 2007
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PSC FLICKA seattle wa
ABSOLUTELY

You stepped into an issue that was between me and rich.... you took a side and it is obvious by your post you sided with rich... yet, i seriously doubt if you even read any of the original posts... you would see where I was at and that I was only being helpful...
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,711
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Actually...

Actually you invited us, as in everyone on this forum, in to it, with a separate and stand alone post notifying everyone on this forum about your little squabble. Having read the thread in question I felt it necessary to clarify what I read as a third party. If you only want to hear what you want to hear talk to yourself not the entire forum... Again, I tried to help you very early on but now you've gone made a real mess of your reputation and credibility here that won't soon be forgotten by many.. If you really must know the sentence bellow is the one that really irked me and it is in fact totally FALSE! Rich never ever said ANYTHING derogatory against Flicka's or Dana's other that they are cramped and too small for his liking. I have no idea where you spun the bellow perception from based on the post in question?? "You seem to think my oppinion regarding SMALL Boats that have a true off shore record and are viewed by most ALL blue water sailing experts as sea wothy are false....."
 
Sep 11, 2007
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PSC FLICKA seattle wa
Just read the posts...

Just read the forums... I was helping a guy out... Trying to give him good websites... Rich got nasty with me and that guy as well... I sent Rich anm email... willing to post it for all..... Even responded openly in forum wandering why he was hostile.... His attitude later was (WHAT EVER)... I can take thwe same attitude... and it seems he can dish it out and get nasty but does not stand up and state he was wrong or even misunderstood... That is about him and not me... If any actually read all these posts and the ones relating to "krogarth" and the 22' columbia you will see exactly what I am talking about....
 
May 11, 2005
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Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
Stirring the pot

I would bet a round of beers that Rich is sitting back, reading this and laughing his a$# off. At least he has enough class to not get into this little spat.
 
Feb 12, 2007
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Ericson 25 Oshkosh, WI
Serenity

I have read that post two times from top to bottom and I see nothing directed at you, PERIOD. You are crying about something that you have cooked up in your mind. Are you paranoid?
 
Sep 11, 2007
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PSC FLICKA seattle wa
YES MAINESAIL

YES MAINESAIL, You have a valid point... anyone would be invited to any open forum... The question would be... did they read the original posts that iniiated this forum... As I stated earlier... I was about to drop it... Then I read your post... Yours after the 'peace post"... so it seemed to me as if your going to defend a person for making sacastic comments to me..
 
Sep 11, 2007
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PSC FLICKA seattle wa
Life raft comment??

I asked about it.. it was in direct response to my suggesting a strong pocket cruiser... such as a flicka... keep in mind I had a 20 foot boat range to work with/..... so i was attempting to help the guy...
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,711
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Here's the thread..

Here's the thread in reference http://www.sailboatowners.com/forums/pviewall.tpl?&fno=441&uid=73269937819&sku=2008096175515.90 Please read it and try and find any post where Rich said the Flica and Dana's are not seaworthy! Serenity said in post #22: "I agree with most everything except (the minimum size boat to sail offshore long distance is a 28 footer)." To which Rich replied in post #24: "A life raft is seaworthy... would you like to make that trip? I stand at 28' to be minimally COMFORTABLE (you can stand up down below.)" Rich's comment was in direct response to your disagreement on size and was a tongue in cheek approach at saying basically this; Many boats are seaworthy, including a life raft, but that he (Rich) would not make a trip, that long, in something he felt that cramped in and he feels as cramped in a 20 or 22 footer as you might in a life raft. The point where he says "would you make that trip" is to point out how a 20 or 22 footer feels to him and as a reference point he used a life raft that would feel small to anyone. He used life raft analogy contextually and illustratively. The entire comment was based around PHYSICAL SPACE NOT the seaworthy capabilities of a Flica or as a direct insult to you. Perhaps it's all the literary classes I took I college but I don't know how one would read into it the way you have. It's there in black and white.. Serenity your breaking down the structure of the comment and taking parts of it out of context and as a separate statement and assuming he meant harm to you. I can assure you he did not and I can also assure you that he most likely will never apologize after your display here tonight nor should he..
 
Sep 11, 2007
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PSC FLICKA seattle wa
thanks maine sailor

Thanks,, you spoke for rich better then he did... I was not even addressing him... I was wondering why he specificslly singled me out in that forum... I asked him in private via email... I also posted a reply... Did you read that one... I took his post directed specifically at me (he singled me out0. I was wondering why he was doing so so... I posted a reply and sent him an email... His reply was (what ever)... That does not sound like a nice spirited person... I already know I'd never get an appology from him... That was the point of asking him openly why he singled me out in that forum...
 
Sep 11, 2007
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PSC FLICKA seattle wa
Additionally

I also received emails from the person who started that forum thanking me... He also was taken back from some of the comments by rich... I dislike people who think they can just bash someone and snub thier nose as if to say in rich's words (WHAT EVER)... That is very rude and not very helpful...
 
Sep 11, 2007
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PSC FLICKA seattle wa
You know Maine

Rich also has some negative views regarding hunters... Think this is a hunter forum... Why does he not go to a pearson forum? Do they not exist?
 
Feb 12, 2007
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Ericson 25 Oshkosh, WI
Shared Forum

Sorry- This is a shared forum, there are individual forums for Hunter and Pearsons and many more brands.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,711
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Serenity..

I have to ask, and please don't take this the wrong way because I mean this with all seriousness, but have you ever been tested or looked into your reading comprehension level? As I CLEARLY pointed out bellow Rich did NOT single you out he was responding directly to post #22 where you disagreed with him about minimum boat size and said; "I agree with most everything except (the minimum size boat to sail offshore long distance is a 28 footer)." That is NOT being singled out it is called being responded to. After all this is a forum and that's what people do..
 
Sep 11, 2007
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PSC FLICKA seattle wa
NO need

No need to appologize.... You have done nothing wrong... I have no problem with you.. You did not snub me or the person who originally posted the forum... I try to like and be helpful to all... I just felt offended tonight and rolled up my sleeves... Thta is after emailing rich in private and asking if I said something to offend him and asked why I was singled out in that forum...
 
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