Definition of a wake, based on the original topic post
seems to be putting your finger in the water a moving it in a small circle.
seems to be putting your finger in the water a moving it in a small circle.
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It has a 351 reverse rotation pulls like a horse first motor lasted 28 years of barefoot
The BIL and friends use to compeat on the northeast circut and he was a TOP 10 all around which is 3 events Jumping (about 120 feet) Tricks (before wake boards ) and salom
The hulls are strong BUT they still rot out justy like a bayliner as are boat is getting a full rebuild
The BIL and friends use to compeat on the northeast circut and he was a TOP 10 all around which is 3 events Jumping (about 120 feet) Tricks (before wake boards ) and salom
The hulls are strong BUT they still rot out justy like a bayliner as are boat is getting a full rebuild
To a few boaters in South Freeport, Maine, 'No Wake' means coming in at half throttle producing what we call "wakimus maximus." Five extra points if you produce enough wake to spill even a drop of my cocktail. Ten extra points if you do it while my skipper is in the water cleaning the bottom prior to a race. Twenty extra points if wake me and my bottom-cleaning skipper twice in a 10-minute period.
Biggest wake I ever saw came from a USCG RIB off Southwest Harbor. I don't necessarily fault him; he was after someone.
I found the comment about west central Florida interesting. My parents had a place on the Homosassa River for a while, and one of the local rednecks waked my dad's little runabout so badly that my mom came off the seat and landed on the sole on her butt. No broken bones, thank heavens, but enough pain to go ashore at the nearest marina to get her to the ER, and soft-tissue injury to have her laid up most of the following summer. They didn't catch the guy.
Biggest wake I ever saw came from a USCG RIB off Southwest Harbor. I don't necessarily fault him; he was after someone.
I found the comment about west central Florida interesting. My parents had a place on the Homosassa River for a while, and one of the local rednecks waked my dad's little runabout so badly that my mom came off the seat and landed on the sole on her butt. No broken bones, thank heavens, but enough pain to go ashore at the nearest marina to get her to the ER, and soft-tissue injury to have her laid up most of the following summer. They didn't catch the guy.
I live aboard, currently on the hook in Back Creek, Annapolis.
Last weekend was the NOODS (a big race). I got waked consistently by the returning racers, few of whom responded to requests to slow down. I'll take my regular powerboat neighbors any day. After 30 years of sailboat racing, I was ashamed for my peers since it was clear they were not ashamed for themselves.
Last weekend was the NOODS (a big race). I got waked consistently by the returning racers, few of whom responded to requests to slow down. I'll take my regular powerboat neighbors any day. After 30 years of sailboat racing, I was ashamed for my peers since it was clear they were not ashamed for themselves.
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I also used to get towed in tournaments by a Correct Craft - always wanted one, never had one. I agree the owners are loyal.
FYI, I started barefooting in 1963 we barely had boats that would go fast enough! Now I can even do it behind our PWC (which cost 6 times what my first ski boat cost me!). Fastest I ever barefooted was 55mph, behind a Rayson Craft with Ford 427. We were going back for the ski at 70, and I was afraid I was going to get thrown out over the engine each time it lept forward. Oh, to be young again!
We have a challenge with the charter fishing boats right in our own marina. They clearly don't know what no wake means.
This was posted on Sweetwater Cruising on a new No-wake law for Wisconsin
Wisconsin senate has passed a new law, Bill 12, that cracks down on wake from powerboats and personal watercraft (PWCs). While much of the language of the bill appears directed an inland lakes, there’s nothing in it that sounds like the bill doesn’t apply as well to Wisconsin’s shoreline on Lakes Michigan and Superior. The new law says “No person may operate a motorboat within 100 feet of any dock, raft, pier, or buoyed restricted area on any lake at a speed in excess of slow−no−wake speed.” It further says “no person may operate a motorboat, other than a personal watercraft, at a speed in excess of slow−no−wake within 100 feet of the shoreline of any lake,” unless a local level of government opts out. The new law is particularly tough on PWCs. It says “No person may operate a personal watercraft at a speed in excess of slow−no−wake within 200 feet of the shoreline of any lake,” and that “No person may operate a personal watercraft at a speed in excess of slow−no−wake within 100 feet of any other boat.” The law goes into effect seven months from date of publication.
Wisconsin senate has passed a new law, Bill 12, that cracks down on wake from powerboats and personal watercraft (PWCs). While much of the language of the bill appears directed an inland lakes, there’s nothing in it that sounds like the bill doesn’t apply as well to Wisconsin’s shoreline on Lakes Michigan and Superior. The new law says “No person may operate a motorboat within 100 feet of any dock, raft, pier, or buoyed restricted area on any lake at a speed in excess of slow−no−wake speed.” It further says “no person may operate a motorboat, other than a personal watercraft, at a speed in excess of slow−no−wake within 100 feet of the shoreline of any lake,” unless a local level of government opts out. The new law is particularly tough on PWCs. It says “No person may operate a personal watercraft at a speed in excess of slow−no−wake within 200 feet of the shoreline of any lake,” and that “No person may operate a personal watercraft at a speed in excess of slow−no−wake within 100 feet of any other boat.” The law goes into effect seven months from date of publication.
Oregon's inland rules set a 5mph/no wake limit. Having ridden with sheriff's marine deputies and otherwise asked them about enforcement, they have told me that they generally ignore sailboats because they don't generate significant wakes even at their top speeds. The most common culprits are pwc, but younger powerboaters in ski boats are also a problem. It seems like a lot of people (1) don't understand just how much wake their craft makes, and (2) have an amazing ability to ignore signs and buoys.
Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo
Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo
NotCook
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- Dec 29, 2008
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<lol> I should post a video of the wake coming off our bow under full sail at 8 kts!
We have a problem with power boats and PWC circling us while we are at anchor. Bev likes to lay in the hammock under the main boom and read. She has to tie it down from each side in order to not rock so much that it almost tosses her out. It isn't that the boat moves even perceptibly (at 39 tons), but the harmonic motion of the hammock gets going and pretty soon she is swinging back and forth about 2 feet each side of center. And, of course, when they circle, the do it at the optimum speed for viewing - which is also the "wakimus maximus" speed as previously defined...
NotCook
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Nice photo
48 is YOUNG!
You're leaving a Wake...
Nice photo, Scott!How's this for an old man at 48 .......
48 is YOUNG!
You're leaving a Wake...
Maybe here's why they don't know what their wakes do
I drove a friend's Sea Ray 34 a week or so ago, through an area that is legal to move over the no wake zone. I have motored our sailboat through this estuary hundreds if not thousands of times. Threading through those motoring and sailing sailboats going in both directions, I said to Jim, "Geez, all those rag heads, don't they understand how they're getting in our way?!?" We were doing about 20 knots, legally, and it was tough to 1) plan ahead to throw a minimum amount of wake too close to the sailboats we were overtaking and 2) ever being able to look back to see what the wake was doing because I was too busy looking ahead to plan the next "avoidance" move.
I "feel" for the mbs, because they just don't know. Without ever having been on a sailboat, they literally have no clue as to the damage they do cause.
Jim has sailed on my boat and was introduced to the effect of his wake, and knows the concept that "medium" mb speed throws the worst wake. He now does idle to "open" legal water, makes sure he doesn't come too close to sailboats and recognizes that passing a sb heading in the same direction makes the worst conditions for a sb than when meeting them head on.
Last note: a trick I learned from a sailor years ago: If you are being overtaken by a pb's wake and he is passing you in the same direction. Instead of turning 90 or so degrees into the wake, simply parallel the wake by turning only 20 to 30 degrees. You'll rock only sideways as compared to rocking in two or three planes if you make no turn because the wake would come on your quarter which would "corkscrew" you, and it's less of a turn than the 90 degree turn.
Nice photo, I remember 48 (vaguely)....
I drove a friend's Sea Ray 34 a week or so ago, through an area that is legal to move over the no wake zone. I have motored our sailboat through this estuary hundreds if not thousands of times. Threading through those motoring and sailing sailboats going in both directions, I said to Jim, "Geez, all those rag heads, don't they understand how they're getting in our way?!?" We were doing about 20 knots, legally, and it was tough to 1) plan ahead to throw a minimum amount of wake too close to the sailboats we were overtaking and 2) ever being able to look back to see what the wake was doing because I was too busy looking ahead to plan the next "avoidance" move.
I "feel" for the mbs, because they just don't know. Without ever having been on a sailboat, they literally have no clue as to the damage they do cause.
Jim has sailed on my boat and was introduced to the effect of his wake, and knows the concept that "medium" mb speed throws the worst wake. He now does idle to "open" legal water, makes sure he doesn't come too close to sailboats and recognizes that passing a sb heading in the same direction makes the worst conditions for a sb than when meeting them head on.
Last note: a trick I learned from a sailor years ago: If you are being overtaken by a pb's wake and he is passing you in the same direction. Instead of turning 90 or so degrees into the wake, simply parallel the wake by turning only 20 to 30 degrees. You'll rock only sideways as compared to rocking in two or three planes if you make no turn because the wake would come on your quarter which would "corkscrew" you, and it's less of a turn than the 90 degree turn.
Nice photo, I remember 48 (vaguely)....
Having a 19' powerboat as well as a J24 it seems a bit absurd to expect powerboats to NOT run at speed in places were it is legal to do so ?
On my 19' powerboat i get pounded plenty and have to carefull from both other powerboats BUT far worse BUY the natural wave conditions on a given day
On the Great South Bay one sailing club to the east of the robert moses bridge has there events in a corner of the bay OUT OF THE WAY of most boat traffic
The other sailing club to the WEST of the bridge thinks nothing of running events that placel many many small sailboats across a narrow channel casuing a nightmare for any powerboat trying to even think of doing the safe thing
In Northport Harbor were i keep the J24 and do a lot of racing ,the race course uses the main channels and when you get 60 to 80 boats going off on 5 starts over and hour i pretty much expect to hit boat wakes while i am working my way around the clam and fishing boats
On my 19' powerboat i get pounded plenty and have to carefull from both other powerboats BUT far worse BUY the natural wave conditions on a given day
On the Great South Bay one sailing club to the east of the robert moses bridge has there events in a corner of the bay OUT OF THE WAY of most boat traffic
The other sailing club to the WEST of the bridge thinks nothing of running events that placel many many small sailboats across a narrow channel casuing a nightmare for any powerboat trying to even think of doing the safe thing
In Northport Harbor were i keep the J24 and do a lot of racing ,the race course uses the main channels and when you get 60 to 80 boats going off on 5 starts over and hour i pretty much expect to hit boat wakes while i am working my way around the clam and fishing boats
Didn't get out last year, but will have to make a point this summer as I cross the half centurty mark
Stu, I've been caught a couple of times parallel to big pb wakes and it wasn't fun, probably the worst way to take the wave as we rocked back and forth violently. I always try to turn into the wake no matter what and hope the pb leaves me room to do that.
Last summer a *#*&% 40ft'er pb had his autopilot locked onto the red line on his chartplotter that marks the preferred channel. At some points it goes close to the chanel markers. I met this guy coming at me and squeezed me right over to the buoy passing with barely a couple of feet to spare and no time to turn in..... everything went flying as we rocked back and froth hard a few times.....
video taping these idiots is a good idea... then file a copy of the video and a complaint with the local LEOs if anyone is injured or any damage occurs.
Scott,
Now that is TRUE stupidity. Probably didn't have a lookout either, 'cuz, geez, once you set the course in the chartplotter linked to the AP, who needs to look!?!
I once had an old geezer motor right up into my stern. He was in a nice looking Grand Banks trawler, I was putting the cover on my mainsail. Closer, closer, closer... I waved and yelled and he missed by perhaps a foot. Lotsa room, too, in the Oakland Estuary. Never said anything as he washed by so close I could see the whites of his eyes. I was so p*ssed I followed him back to his dock. His son came over and apologized for him, and he finally said, "Oh, I just sold my sailboat and this was my first trip out on my new boat."
Another time a big mb cruiser washed by again, so close..., I followed him home to his slip, too, but when I asked him if he'd even noticed what he'd done, he attacked me with his deck broom! Probably showing off to his bikini-clad secretary, 'cuz she sure didn't look old enough to be his wife or young enough to be his daughter!
Takes all kinds...
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