No boats for sale in So Cal

[Skipper]

--Update 11/25--
We're looking at moving back to Orange County, CA.

On Yachtworld, there are but 32 sailboats in the 30-foot range listed for sale in all of Southern California. 51 total in all of CA. Not much different on Sailboatlistings. That's using a search for 29-31 ft, used, any price, any year. What's going on in CA?

I think I may have to ship the one I have. It will cost less overall to ship it than to try to find a boat of equal quality and features out there.

 

[Brian D]

I ended up with 77 results (29' to 31') on Yachtworld. But they make not meet your needs based on "equal quality and features". Maybe if you broaden your search for something a little bigger, maybe up to 36. They should still be easy to solo sail.

 

[Skipper]

I ended up with 77 results (29' to 31') on Yachtworld. But they make not meet your needs based on "equal quality and features". Maybe if you broaden your search for something a little bigger, maybe up to 36. They should still be easy to solo sail.

Yep, but I omitted the odd boats like multi-hulls and true racers, and the ones marked sale pending. Then counted the ones in and south of Santa Barbara for So Cal. I may have been off-count but in any case there are very few. I just now did a similar search in other boat states ie MD, FL and MI, and came up with similar numbers. Maybe it's my perception is flawed but it seems there were many more boats available the last time I searched in 2010.

I have to stick to 30-ish ft as that is my waiting-list slip size in Dana Point.

 

[Chief RA]

I think Brian is right: don't let your boat size be dictated by a slip size request either! Chief

 

[Skipper]

I think Brian is right: don't let your boat size be dictated by a slip size request either! Chief

Dana Point wait list - 30 ft - 10 months to a year. $504 a month slip fees.

36ft wait list - 3 years. $629 a month slip fees. = + $1,500 annual vs 30 ft
+ more $ maint, insurance, cost to buy in good condition, etc.

My 30 ft slip wait time is almost up.

 

[Chief RA]

Skipper: Understand, just a shame to eliminate all those beautiful boats! Chief

 

[jimg]

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Yachtworld lists boats for sale by brokers. In the size range you are searching many are for sale by owner. There are many more for sale on Craigslist, and in publications such as The Log newspaper. Broaden your search tools, and also be aware of what has been said about the costs involved just for a parking place.

 

[rardiH36]

Not all seller's do it through broker's. Check Craig's list also.

 

[Sumner]

... $629 a month slip fees. = + $1,500 annual vs 30 ft
+ more $ maint, insurance, cost to buy in good condition, etc....

I agree, if a 30 foot boat works for you then why have all the additional costs associated with a larger boat,

Sumner

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[Bad Obsession]

Remember....this is an off time of the year for putting your boat up for sale. You may see more for sale in the early spring.

I realize that the demographics are different since the sailing season is different where you are. Still, holiday season coming up etc.

Don't let the small list rush you into something that isn't right. You should know instinctively when it is right. If you don't get that feeling it will annoy you the entire time you have the boat. Seriously!

 

[Brian D]

OK, got it, Skipper. Can you put upto 3' over in your slips on the east coast? 30' slips here on the Left coast can take upto 33'. I think Dana Point is also that way.

Happy boat hunting.

 

[Captn TJ]

Yachtworld lists boats for sale by brokers. In the size range you are searching many are for sale by owner. There are many more for sale on Craigslist, and in publications such as The Log newspaper. Broaden your search tools, and also be aware of what has been said about the costs involved just for a parking place.

Also try sailboatlistings.com and boattrader.

 

[Alan Gomes]

Dana Point wait list - 30 ft - 10 months to a year. $504 a month slip fees.

36ft wait list - 3 years. $629 a month slip fees. = + $1,500 annual vs 30 ft
+ more $ maint, insurance, cost to buy in good condition, etc.

My 30 ft slip wait time is almost up.

Not sure where in OC you will be settling and/or how far you would be willing to drive, but might I suggest that you consider putting your boat in one of the marinas in San Pedro? I'm at Holiday Harbor (http://www.holidayharborcm.com/). The rates are reasonable (cheaper than DP), the facility and management excellent, and the sailing is outstanding. Plus, no waiting list for 30 foot slips! You are much closer for trips to Catalina Island. In fact, since you can get there in less than 4 hours you could even do last-minute, quick turnaround trips, whereas from Dana Point, being twice as far, you will probably need to block out more days to make it worth it. (Heck, I've even done trips where I power over in the morning with friends, eat lunch at the Isthmus snack bar, and then blast home on a screaming reach when the westerlies kick in.) Of course, if you are relocating to south Orange County then it could be too much of a drive for your liking; from north OC, not so much.

I had my previous boat in San Pedro (a Catalina 30) and sold it, purchasing an Ericson 26-2 that was berthed in Dana Point. Because the P.O. had already paid for a month of slip fees, I went ahead and spent the first month in Dana Point. I didn't care for it at all. The marina management also wanted me to stay, but I declined. For one thing, there's lots of pedestrian traffic around the marina: people on roller skates, joggers, folks walking their dogs, etc. I think many are attracted by the various shops along the waterfront as well. It always seems crowded, especially in the summer. Plus, the narrow harbor channel is persistently clogged with kayaks and stand-up paddle boarders. I couldn't wait to get back to San Pedro, where the marina is super quiet. (The only people down there are the boaters.) However, while we don't have the congestion of paddle boarders in close quarters there is a significant amount of commercial shipping coming in and out of Angel's Gate. I've never had a problem with it but you do need to stay alert.

From where I live (on the border of L.A. and Orange Counties) the drive out to San Pedro is slightly closer than the one to Dana Point--but in the opposite direction. Actually, for me the closest marinas are in Long Beach, but I don't care for them much, either. (Had a 27 footer there.) So the extra 10-15 minutes of driving is worth it to me.

Good luck with your boat search and finding the marina/slip that suits you best.

 

[discman243]

Look for a 27' or 28' and there are slips that size in Dana Point, I know I have one.
I pay $347.00 a month. Up to 30', with outboard, etc. Anything larger than that,
there is a serious waiting list.

 

[Skipper]

OK, got it, Skipper. Can you put upto 3' over in your slips on the east coast? 30' slips here on the Left coast can take upto 33'. I think Dana Point is also that way.

Happy boat hunting.

Yes, up to 33' overall - that includes pulpits, etc., so i figure 31' hull max. I know people who have to pay extra for a Catalina 320 - and at least one guy who cut and welded his bow pulpit to fit.

I was in Dana Point harbor for over 6 years. Left in 2010. I'm coming back.

 

[discman243]

Yes, up to 33' overall - that includes pulpits, etc., so i figure 31' hull max. I know people who have to pay extra for a Catalina 320 - and at least one guy who cut and welded his bow pulpit to fit.

I was in Dana Point harbor for over 6 years. Left in 2010. I'm coming back.

You may want to call the office and see what slips are avail at present time.
I'm on G dock, cove side, and there are a lot of for sale signs on that side.
There are some big daddy's for sale if you've got the cash.

 

[Skipper]

I'm at Holiday Harbor (http://www.holidayharborcm.com/). The rates are reasonable (cheaper than DP), the facility and management excellent, and the sailing is outstanding. Plus, no waiting list for 30 foot slips!

I might have to do that temporarily, thanks. I think we'll be early to Dana Point, so have to find a temp slip for a month or 2. I heard that since Alamitos is getting a revamp that a lot of boats had to be relocated to hold them till the work was finished. Long Beach said no slips available right now.

I went ahead and spent the first month in Dana Point. I didn't care for it at all. The marina management also wanted me to stay, but I declined. For one thing, there's lots of pedestrian traffic around the marina: people on roller skates, joggers, folks walking their dogs, etc. I think many are attracted by the various shops along the waterfront as well. It always seems crowded, especially in the summer. Plus, the narrow harbor channel is persistently clogged with kayaks and stand-up paddle boarders.
Good luck with your boat search and finding the marina/slip that suits you best.

We love Dana Point. Good walking, food, nice harbor, good sailing, and no matter where you are you're only a few minutes motoring to the open ocean.

Sometimes there's a lot of people but it's not overwhelming. The trick is to stay on the island side, less crowded. Anyway the wife likes the action.

I never found that the small boats got in the way in the channel, but then I haven't been there in awhile.

 

[Skipper]

You may want to call the office and see what slips are avail at present time.
I'm on G dock, cove side, and there are a lot of for sale signs on that side.
There are some big daddy's for sale if you've got the cash.

We were on A dock, east island. 2004 - 2010.

 

[discman243]

We were on A dock, east island. 2004 - 2010.

come on back!

 

[the Dog House]

I'm in King Harbor (Redondo Beach) and there are 3 empty 30ft slips on my dock. Call the portofino hotel and marina and speak with Nathan. They have been empty for over a month. Not sure if that's to far but it may work temporarily for you?