Hi to all sailboat owners here. Need some help, please. Just retired this last Jan. Have experince sailing in my youth around the Lake Erie Islands,in fact grew up on Put In Bay,( South Bass Island ). Was taught to sail by a famous atheletic coach at Bowling Green University Oh. in the 50's "Bob Whitaker" for who the University named a stadium. My first sail boat was a 12 ft.Ray Green "Nipper" cat boat at the age of about 10 years old. Am familiar with Lightenings, Thisel, Rebel, the K-Cat, Lyman cats, Snipe, and Interlakes. All being wooden boats as fiberglass I don't think was invented back then. Situation is,,I'd like to sell my power boat worth about 7 t0 8K and go back to my roots as a sail boat owner. Now I have more time to spend on the water,and less money. My thoughts are to buy something with a cabin that would sleep two,have and out board kicker,and of course a decent fiberglass hull that is not cored material. I am aware of blistering and have handled that in the past. I keep seeing O'Day's for sale as if they were Sea Ray's on the market. They must be a large manufacture. Guess I need some in-put from owners as to what the better made boats these days are. Will need to buy used. Think-- Trailer boat to be kept on. (so as not to have an annual dock fee.) 18 to 22 ft. Should it be a keel boat? or centerboard or combination? Be 4000 lbs max so it could be pulled with a small Ranger type PU.most likely not more than 50 miles. Any and all sujestions is appriciated, and a thank you in advance.. BTW I have been a power boat owner for a good 50 years and have always respected the sailboat people on the water. By this I mean I always pass on the side of you so as to help rather than hinder you course,, and always pass across your stern. I hope that I'm thought of as one of the good stink boaters!! Hee he.
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Catalina 22
I have not been on one but it was the boat that carried catalina forward for years. it must be pretty decent i think they sold over 15000 of them. internet, internet, internet. it can save you a lot of time and trouble. if you go with older boat it might be wise to get one that is either still in production or at least still has factory backing (Catalina for example)
I have not been on one but it was the boat that carried catalina forward for years. it must be pretty decent i think they sold over 15000 of them. internet, internet, internet. it can save you a lot of time and trouble. if you go with older boat it might be wise to get one that is either still in production or at least still has factory backing (Catalina for example)
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Precision makes a very nice 18' 21' & 23' shoal draft with a drop down centerboard. Much better than just a swing keel and very easy to trailer and launch...we had an 18' for many years. Are you sure a Ranger can pull 4000lbs? That is a lot of weight to pull up a launch ramp.Precison is not a high production boat, so I don't know if you can find one in your area.
Precision makes a very nice 18' 21' & 23' shoal draft with a drop down centerboard. Much better than just a swing keel and very easy to trailer and launch...we had an 18' for many years. Are you sure a Ranger can pull 4000lbs? That is a lot of weight to pull up a launch ramp.Precison is not a high production boat, so I don't know if you can find one in your area.
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geo Been watching e-bay and saw one in N Carolina,last week a 18 Precision & trailer,-went for $4124.00. The Ranger is a long bed V-6 very low miles. Was thinking 4K to be its limit,but may be to much,better check it. By shoal draft, you mean a short keel let's say 6 to 8 inch?
geo Been watching e-bay and saw one in N Carolina,last week a 18 Precision & trailer,-went for $4124.00. The Ranger is a long bed V-6 very low miles. Was thinking 4K to be its limit,but may be to much,better check it. By shoal draft, you mean a short keel let's say 6 to 8 inch?
Catalina and Precision
Is your truck 4wd? If so, then you can use the low gear in the transfer case to get up a ramp. Just don't try to steer in 4wd on the cement ramp & if it locks in gear you will need to drive onto some dirt to take the windup out of the drivetrain. It would seem hard to go wrong with a good Catalina 22 - I have sailed them and they are nice boats to sail. Swing and wing keel C22's are available to make launching easier. Every Precision owner that I have talked to has also liked their boats. Think carefully about the work to setup the boat for launch - raise the mast - in the water slips or moorings really make it a lot nicer. Another option in some places is dry land mast up storage right by the water - at least then you can launch and go, keeping sails furled or covered like an in the water boat. JM2C, OldCat
Is your truck 4wd? If so, then you can use the low gear in the transfer case to get up a ramp. Just don't try to steer in 4wd on the cement ramp & if it locks in gear you will need to drive onto some dirt to take the windup out of the drivetrain. It would seem hard to go wrong with a good Catalina 22 - I have sailed them and they are nice boats to sail. Swing and wing keel C22's are available to make launching easier. Every Precision owner that I have talked to has also liked their boats. Think carefully about the work to setup the boat for launch - raise the mast - in the water slips or moorings really make it a lot nicer. Another option in some places is dry land mast up storage right by the water - at least then you can launch and go, keeping sails furled or covered like an in the water boat. JM2C, OldCat
Sail other peoples boats
PY: Have you thought about crewing on someone elses boat? Its a good way to get your sailing back up to speed and learn more about what you want without the finanicial committment. Unfortunately, I'm guessing that sailing season is about over on Lake Erie. But in the spring, check out the sailing clubs in your area that race and you'll probably find owners looking for crew. You don't even have to be a member of the club to race. It's quite a cool deal and a lot of fun. Mark
PY: Have you thought about crewing on someone elses boat? Its a good way to get your sailing back up to speed and learn more about what you want without the finanicial committment. Unfortunately, I'm guessing that sailing season is about over on Lake Erie. But in the spring, check out the sailing clubs in your area that race and you'll probably find owners looking for crew. You don't even have to be a member of the club to race. It's quite a cool deal and a lot of fun. Mark
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Unfortunatly my Ranger is a 4X2. So maybe I think of something 19 ft. There is a Cape Dory about 19 ft. at friend of mine's marina that looks beautiful. Looks like the owner keeps her up nicely. Does anyone know these boats? My concern is the structure, Some boats seem to only have a life span of twenty years or so. In a vintage power boat I like to see roven woven fiberglass with no filler sandwiched in between inner and outer hull.
Unfortunatly my Ranger is a 4X2. So maybe I think of something 19 ft. There is a Cape Dory about 19 ft. at friend of mine's marina that looks beautiful. Looks like the owner keeps her up nicely. Does anyone know these boats? My concern is the structure, Some boats seem to only have a life span of twenty years or so. In a vintage power boat I like to see roven woven fiberglass with no filler sandwiched in between inner and outer hull.
sail someone else's boat.
Yes have thought of that also. way back when, finding a crew was sometimes an issue. There are clubs in both Toledo and Sandusky Oh. Our season goes through Oct so I do have time left. Thank you.
Yes have thought of that also. way back when, finding a crew was sometimes an issue. There are clubs in both Toledo and Sandusky Oh. Our season goes through Oct so I do have time left. Thank you.
ODay 20 ft.
I just bought a 20 ft. ODay and it is in fine shape and 33 years old. She is sound of body although not as pretty as she once was, kind of like me!!!
. The v berth will sleep one of me or two regular size people, the salon will set two full size people and still have room for the bar for the end of day relaxtion. Don C.
I just bought a 20 ft. ODay and it is in fine shape and 33 years old. She is sound of body although not as pretty as she once was, kind of like me!!!
. The v berth will sleep one of me or two regular size people, the salon will set two full size people and still have room for the bar for the end of day relaxtion. Don C.Cape Dory yes
not familiar with the 19' model, but Cape Dory was one of the solid brands that built 'bulletproof' cruisers and suffered for it in the eighties when cheap boats thrived. Their mid-sized ones are considered affordable bluewater-capable boats, although the interiors are cramped and outmoded by todays standards.
not familiar with the 19' model, but Cape Dory was one of the solid brands that built 'bulletproof' cruisers and suffered for it in the eighties when cheap boats thrived. Their mid-sized ones are considered affordable bluewater-capable boats, although the interiors are cramped and outmoded by todays standards.
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Amazingly my 1st sail was also on one of Ray Green's "Nippers" many, many years ago, and I've been hooked ever since. (Also grew-up on Lake Erie and spent, and still spend, many-a-time at Put-in-Bay.) A boat to consider is the O'Day 222. I have one (see pic). It weighs 2200 lbs; trailer adds another 800. It's a comfortable weekender. We sailed the Lake Erie Islands for a week last June. Mast is a little heavy, but can be handled by two. {I've rigged mine to be a one-man job.) Yes, O'Day built a lot of boats. All good quality and designed for genuine livability and usability. Prior to the 222, I've owned the 35 and the 240. All are great sailors! (Also owned a Catalina 22 -- good boat too, but I now prefer the centerboard of the O'Day 222 vs. the swing keel of the Catalina.)
Amazingly my 1st sail was also on one of Ray Green's "Nippers" many, many years ago, and I've been hooked ever since. (Also grew-up on Lake Erie and spent, and still spend, many-a-time at Put-in-Bay.) A boat to consider is the O'Day 222. I have one (see pic). It weighs 2200 lbs; trailer adds another 800. It's a comfortable weekender. We sailed the Lake Erie Islands for a week last June. Mast is a little heavy, but can be handled by two. {I've rigged mine to be a one-man job.) Yes, O'Day built a lot of boats. All good quality and designed for genuine livability and usability. Prior to the 222, I've owned the 35 and the 240. All are great sailors! (Also owned a Catalina 22 -- good boat too, but I now prefer the centerboard of the O'Day 222 vs. the swing keel of the Catalina.)
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jon It certainly is a small world ! And I appriciate your response on the forum. Since you are familiar with my boating area and like the O'Day so well would you mind discussing your boat by personal e-mail? Send reply to chuck@rothert.com
jon It certainly is a small world ! And I appriciate your response on the forum. Since you are familiar with my boating area and like the O'Day so well would you mind discussing your boat by personal e-mail? Send reply to chuck@rothert.com
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Jon jon Coinsedence or what? Look at this. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Inland-Lake-Day-Sailboats-Nipper-and-Slipper_W0QQitemZ4573762588QQcategoryZ63729QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem This will certainly bring back memories,, Hee He.
Jon jon Coinsedence or what? Look at this. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Inland-Lake-Day-Sailboats-Nipper-and-Slipper_W0QQitemZ4573762588QQcategoryZ63729QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem This will certainly bring back memories,, Hee He.
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