New York City and Boston Evacuation?

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
What about the marina just north of the GW bridge? I would have no qualms about anchoring the boat. But you have to find a place where you can get off to transportation. How far are you willing to go?

P.S. with all that has been written about securing the boat I believe anchoring to be the best alternative. Out of the water only works if there is no storm surge. Find the pictures of Floyd when boats were a mile from their cradle or stands. Good slip tieups are good until the slip leaves. Proper anchoring with room is still the best.
 

RECESS

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Dec 20, 2003
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Pearson 323 . St. Mary's Georgia
Storm surge is a rise in sea level...a "monster high tide" that pushes water inland, flooding land above normal sea level. 40' waves are just big waves that break on the beach and recede.
The tidal surge is looking to be 10 to 12 feet. Put some huge waves on top of that surge plus the fact the homes in its path are not built for this and it is going to be a mess. The buoys have recorded 32 foot waves. Those will not get smaller as the storm loses intensity. Waves are set in motion and they will tear up the coastal areas that are exposed to open ocean.

Interesting little gem they just threw out there. If it is a cat 1 at ground level, you need only be 10 stories off the ground and it has cat 2 winds.

It is a damn good thing NYC and Boston do not have tall buildings.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
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1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
no tall buildings in NYC? LOL...... run up hudson river. should be pretty this time of year--always used to be , anyway......
back in carla and donna days , fire island brokein bits and levittown sunk..... more was wet also-- tornadoes down nassau blvd in garden city-- sideways rain-- all the things that entertain kids's brains....
 
Jan 3, 2009
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Marine Trader 34 Where Ever I am
For any members looking for a harbor of refuge in the Erie Canal area...

NEW YORK STATE CANAL SYSTEM NOTICE TO MARINERS

Chart 14786
HURRICANE IRENE 0845 - August 26, 2011

Mariners are advised that the potential for hurricane force winds and
excessively heavy rainfall exists along portions of the Canal System within
the next 72 hours.

Current forecasts indicate that the most severe impacts will be in the
eastern part of the Canal System, east of Oneida Lake. Widespread flooding
and closures of the Canal System in these areas are possible within the next
72 hours.

Mariners on the eastern Erie Canal between Oneida Lake and Waterford, and
the Champlain Canal, should take all possible measures to secure their
vessels in safe locations.

The Waterford Flight (Lock E-2 to E-6) will be opened as “safe harbor” for
vessel traffic wishing to moor beginning at 7 AM, Saturday, August 27th.
Water levels do not fluctuate within the Waterford Flight when flooding is
occurring on the Hudson and Mohawk Rivers. All permit and vessel pass
requirements will be waived for the duration of the event.
For updates and information monitor 1-800-4CANAL4 and www.canals.ny.gov.

Chuck
 

UPSGUY

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Jan 9, 2011
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Catalina 22 Bayville NY
Neat! so am I. Windseeker is the baby blue Catalina in West Harbor. I'm hoping to pull it tomorrow then head in land.
 
Jan 1, 2006
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Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
zee,
I think I spent that hurricane on the corner of Nassau blvd and stewart ave. My bud's p's were away and we held down the fort - with beer.
I didn't own anything then so it was just fun.
Now I worry about the things I own. Calmer if I didn't.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
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1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
i was on opposite side of town and we were watching the rain fall sideways and hearing on radio about the tornadoes on nassau blvd--- this was carla, 1963...
with hurricane donna,1960, my younger brother at age 8 yrs,wanted to go up onto the roof to see inside the eye of the hurrycame....dont know if he got up there or not--he was kinda young.....
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
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we have great genes for that adventure thing-- my brother grew up i think--got bigger, anyway) and became a science teacher. i didnt bother to grow up..i still play with toys!
be safe, all in irenes path!
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Catalina 30 Mandeville, La.
The tidal surge is looking to be 10 to 12 feet. Put some huge waves on top of that surge plus the fact the homes in its path are not built for this and it is going to be a mess. The buoys have recorded 32 foot waves. Those will not get smaller as the storm loses intensity. Waves are set in motion and they will tear up the coastal areas that are exposed to open ocean.

Interesting little gem they just threw out there. If it is a cat 1 at ground level, you need only be 10 stories off the ground and it has cat 2 winds.

It is a damn good thing NYC and Boston do not have tall buildings.
The ground level winds are almost always estimated and almost always on the generous side. Often times, they will estimate the wind speed entirely upon pressure readings, again generously. This storm is weakening and will probably ( hopefully) not be so bad. I wouldn't worry too much here in the New Orleans area if that storm were bearing down on us - assuming it would still be weakening.

Overestimating actual wind speeds near ground level can be a problem. SOme think the NHC & NOAA will go to extremes to classify storms as huricanes to keep their prediction estimates accurate. I don't know about that, but when a storm is officially classified as a hurricane, some homeowners policies have a different, higher deductible that kicks-in. Some kick in when the storm is named, apparently hastily as well sometimes.

This storm may not have hurricane force winds at or near ground level when it hits New England. I'd still prepare but not worry like a CAT4 or 5 is coming. The dangers to your boats have been beat to death here, but not much about your homes. Be prepared for widespread power outages and your freezer defrosting. I recall after Katrina, people cooking everything that had been in their freezers. This area didn't flood but trees and electrical lines were down everywhere. It took weeks before power was restored.

One funny thing I recall was at a friend's neighborhood. Out of town power companies swarm an area and help restore power. Their general rule is to restore what gives them the biggest bang for the buck, like hospital, emergency operations, then neighborhoods. When in the residential areas, they might skip a downed pole that would only restore a few houses, opting instead for the pole that would restore 50 houses. The story goes that this was going to be the case in my friend's neighborhood and an entire block was going to be skipped over. One of the ladies in the neighborhood, put on a low cut revealing shirt, went over to where the power crew from Arkansas was working and hollered out something about who does she have to, let's say, "spend some time" with to get her power restored? Of course they all laughed and replied "me!". They restored power to that neighborhood right after that job and she didn't have to "spend time" with any of them. Be prpeared to improvise if necessary, cold beer was more valuable than gold. Good luck and hope you guys don't have to proposition any power company restoration crews. One note though, know your limits, this strategy could backfire on some of you guys - I've never heard of any men attempting this.
 
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