new to sailing-w '77 Oday 25 keel,need owner manua

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I am brand new to sail boats but not to boating. We just acquired this boat that has a normal keel about 3-4 feet deep I am told, w overall draft 6-7 feet but I am not sure as I have never seen it yet. It is still in our new slip we bought w the boat but our marina said this was serviced, painted etc for summer of '06, but we'll have to haul in the spring to check everything below the waterline. Among other things I would love to be able to obtain all the literature a new owner would have received incl. the owner's manuals. Also, we had to rip out the old gas tank due to a leak located just aft of the Vire 7 inboard so does anyone know the dimensions for a replacement tank-I lost my measurements-and where to find one locally if possible- cheap? The bilge pump backed up into the sink located amidship. My husband said this can't be normal as the drain to the sink tied directly into the pump's discharge hose. He simply separated the "T" and connected the pump's hose straight to the thru hull. I guess we can drill a hole just for that sink to eliminate that issue permanently. But, was this the way Oday built it? I don't mean to burden anyone but this is a whole new boating experience and I want to make it a pleasant one and stressless as possible starting out. My hus. says the boat is in pretty good condition overall so there is a chance we might make a serious effort to update it inside and out but if he gets the feeling it might be too much, he might back off. He has everything else we own to fix and maintain, too. Any help is greatly appreciated!! Janet
 
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I have a '76 O'day 25. Don't think there is much difference. Mine is a stub keel. With a centerboard that drops down out of the stub section. If you go to the top of this page to Boat Info then to Model Information then click on the 25 at the left edge you see a four page brochure posted by an owner. They were not big on manuela as best I can tell. Its all pretty standard. The "problem" with older boats like ours is that when you ask is that how it was designed the answer may well be that your boat didn't originally have an inboard. Mine Doesn't. That may be something someone added later. Same with the drain lines. But asking here is good. You'll likely get AN answer and you may find someone who has done what you want to do who can explain how they decided to do it the way they did and why. You've got a good boat. Enjoy it. Mike Mike Whalen Knoxville, Tennessee
 
Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
O'Day 25 Keel boat

We had an O'Day 25 that is similar to yours at our yacht club a few years ago. It had a stock Sail-drive gasoline inboard engine with the metal gas tank under the cockpit storage area. O'Day came out with these boats with a prop driven lower unit very similar to an outboard, just behind the keel. The control handle was in the cockpit. If my memory serves me right, I remember someone telling me that the engine was a two-stroke. The single control handle served as both forward and reverse, as well as the throttle, I remember having to get the boat back on it's mooring after it had come free of it. Luckily, a friend of mine who lived up the street from the club where that boat landed, was very familiar with this set up and offered to help me get it back on the mooring. The man who owned the boat had a debilitating disease, and finally sold it to a family who joined the club. They encountered problems with the engine and decided to remove it, along with the fuel tank. They removed the skeg, and patched the hole in the hull, and installed a bracket for an outboard on the stern. They've since moved to Florida and I'm not sure if they still have the boat. I think it had an anchor locker on the bow. She was a nice boat but I was never crazy about the fact that it had a gas tank under the cockpit. If it was diesel, it wouldn't be too bad, but a gas tank really belongs somewhere in the cockpit where raw gasoline has no access to the bilge. If you plan on using a boat stove in the galley, you can imagine how dangerous it would be if the tank ever developed a leak. Even a spark from a bilge pump motor coming on could be dangerous. I don't mean to appear critical of this type of set up as to be offensive, but I only want to make you aware of it purely for your safety and well being. I'm giving you a link to another O'Day site, but it doesn't appear to have any O'Day 25 manuals that go back to 77. Maybe you could give Rudy Nickerson of D&R Marine a call 508 644-3001. He is located in Assonet Ma. I'm not sure about the way the bilge pump was connected. Bilge pump discharge outlets can be installed almost anywhere above the waterline of the hull. I have mine on my stern. Anyway Janet, I hope that I was able to shed some light on the type of boat that you have. It was the first O'Day 25 that I had ever seen like yours. Most of them have a keel centerboard with outboards, or keel boats with inboards, but not many with two-stroke sail-drive engines with the skeg and rudder and tiller on the stern. Good luck! Joe
 
Jan 11, 2007
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Columbia 28 Sarasota
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Could it be possible it's not an Oday??? I don't believe I know of one that matches that description. Just a thought...
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Oday 25 pittsburgh
It is an O'Day.

Saildrives, Vires, and yanmars. I only know of one after market and that was a 76 or 77 that Don Evans installed a volvo (I think) diesel. The old two clinder saildrives had alot of problems with water getting into the lower cylinder. That is all I know that I think I know. You can see Don's conversion in the 25 O'Day photos. Mike, that wold be the cb version. There was a keel version with a fixed keel and a slightly taller mast. r.w.landau
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Janet, I have two bildge pumps.

One is manual and one is electric. If you look at the picture, you can see the manual outlet behind the name. The electric outlet in in the "o" of continuance. Rick Ledger posted a picture of a rebuilt Vire in the O'Day 25 picture section. He is still around and if you e-mail him I am sure he has some good info for you. I did tie my ice box into the sink drain with valves on both and a seacock. Janet, let us know your progress! r.w.landau
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Bimini Top

Rw, I like that Bimini Top on your boat. Did You have that made up special for your boat, or can they be purchased as a stock item? Joe
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Joe, that is home made.

And the picture shows it in 18 to 22 knot wind. I am going to fix the kinks this spring. The nice part is that it snaps on and off but the frame is rigid and does not move nor does it colapse. It keeps the sun off! r.w.landau
 
Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Bimini Top

Excellent job on that Bimini Top RW. I think I'll steal that design from you, if you don't mind. I really need something to keep the sun off while I'm sailing, not so much for myself, but Penny doesn't like too much sun beating down on her in the hot summer. I see that you like to troll while you sail, too. You're a man after my own heart. There's nothing in this world like cooking up a fresh catch right on board! Thanks, Joe
 
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Bimini

Joe, I ordered my bimini on this site. Buyer beware. I gave them the deminsions, picked a color and it fits pretty nice. (the frame came bent and we talked around for a while till I drove some nails into a piece of ply and bent it back out). If you do this on a 25 get an extra piece made for aft of the back stay. Mine is the same size as RW's. On hot summer days the shade is most effective about four feet off the leeward rail! The fish love it! I'm gonna buy some tubing and fittings and add a couple of feet off the back then make some flaps that would come down on the sides. Between the stay and the main sheet the shadow is pretty small. When you are under it, it makes one hell of a difference. Mike
 
Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Bimini Top

Sounds great Mike! When you get it finished, take a picture of it and post it on this site. If I ever get one, I'm going to make it up myself somehow. Right now, I have to concentrate on getting my Genny changed over for my new CDI furler, or maybe a new sail made up for it. Thanks, Joe
 
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