Hello, I just purchased a 1976 daysailerII on Saturday. I set it up on the trailer yesterday to get a feel for it prior to the first sail hopefully this weekend. It went pretty quickly for the first time. The one thing that confused me however was a block setup attached to a wire. The wire end of this obviously hooks to the bottom of the boom about 2' from the mast in a slot. Where does the other end go??? Does anyone have a picture of this setup??? Also, what is the proper way to attach the sail to the aft end of the boom??? What is the v-shaped slot on the starboard side of the boom for??? The boat never had a motor on it. I've been thinking of getting one. What is the recommended HP for the daysailerII??? Thanks for your help.
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Rigging - Block set up.
Sounds like a boom vang to me. It should for a triangle between the mast and the boom where it attaches close to the base of the mast. Its purpose is to apply and maintain tension on the mainsail based on wind conditions and sail direction. Main to end of boom? There should be a line called an outhaul attached to the sail. V-shaped slot? need more info but could be a clam cleat for topping lift or other. Motor? 4-6 Hp should be plenty. Fair winds Tom
Sounds like a boom vang to me. It should for a triangle between the mast and the boom where it attaches close to the base of the mast. Its purpose is to apply and maintain tension on the mainsail based on wind conditions and sail direction. Main to end of boom? There should be a line called an outhaul attached to the sail. V-shaped slot? need more info but could be a clam cleat for topping lift or other. Motor? 4-6 Hp should be plenty. Fair winds Tom
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I believe the V-shaped slot is a clam cleat for the outhaul as mentioned. Mine is a set similar to that explained. Go through the photos in the attached web site. You may find something that will help you.
I believe the V-shaped slot is a clam cleat for the outhaul as mentioned. Mine is a set similar to that explained. Go through the photos in the attached web site. You may find something that will help you.
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Hi, Assuming you have fed the clew and foot of the mainsail into the groove on top of the boom, there should be a line at end attached to the clew. That line (called the outhaul) goes from the clew, through an opening at the end of the boom, and is then pulled tight and attached to a cleat on the side of the boom. The outhaul is used to tighten the foot of the mainsail along the boom. You'll get a variety of responses about motors for the daysailer. Mine has a 3.5 HP Tohatsu. It provides plenty of power to get in and out of the docks and has been very reliable so far. Obviously, the larger the motor, the more weight you'll have and the less efficient your boat will be under sail. If you can post a photo of the block you are talking about, perhaps I can help with that. I am only guessing, but it sounds like the block used to control the sheets for the mainsail. -- Frank
Hi, Assuming you have fed the clew and foot of the mainsail into the groove on top of the boom, there should be a line at end attached to the clew. That line (called the outhaul) goes from the clew, through an opening at the end of the boom, and is then pulled tight and attached to a cleat on the side of the boom. The outhaul is used to tighten the foot of the mainsail along the boom. You'll get a variety of responses about motors for the daysailer. Mine has a 3.5 HP Tohatsu. It provides plenty of power to get in and out of the docks and has been very reliable so far. Obviously, the larger the motor, the more weight you'll have and the less efficient your boat will be under sail. If you can post a photo of the block you are talking about, perhaps I can help with that. I am only guessing, but it sounds like the block used to control the sheets for the mainsail. -- Frank
boom vang picture
Here is a picture of the boom vang and how it is attched to the mast. The other cleat on the starboard side of the boom is the outhaul cleat as others have mentioned. Mine is identical.There should be a turning block a the back of the boom for the outhaul line.
Here is a picture of the boom vang and how it is attched to the mast. The other cleat on the starboard side of the boom is the outhaul cleat as others have mentioned. Mine is identical.There should be a turning block a the back of the boom for the outhaul line.
thanks, and a couple more rigging questions
Hey everyone, Thanks for your replies. The rigging pictures really helped. I have a couple more questions. - On some of the Daysailer pictures that I have seen I notice a couple things that don't appear to be on my boat. - Some boats seem to have a bridal or traveller type harness at the stern that the mainsheet attaches to. - Another thing is some boats appear to have a "stay" type wire attached to the aft end of the boom. Are these just features on other models??? Thanks again.
Hey everyone, Thanks for your replies. The rigging pictures really helped. I have a couple more questions. - On some of the Daysailer pictures that I have seen I notice a couple things that don't appear to be on my boat. - Some boats seem to have a bridal or traveller type harness at the stern that the mainsheet attaches to. - Another thing is some boats appear to have a "stay" type wire attached to the aft end of the boom. Are these just features on other models??? Thanks again.
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to lost sailor The items you mention are not typical. The bridle at the back, is a rope traveller. I have a reference that pre 1975 DS II had them, but another reference indicating this to be a McGlaughlin traveler placed on DS I's in 1991 and 1992. Owners report that they tend to tangle a lot, and prefer the mid boom system rather than the end boom system. The second item you refer to is a topping lift, to keep the boom up off the deck and cockpit when the sail is down. (Great for mooring)The topping lift is an add on feature. I don't think that it came standard or as an option on any of the DS models.
to lost sailor The items you mention are not typical. The bridle at the back, is a rope traveller. I have a reference that pre 1975 DS II had them, but another reference indicating this to be a McGlaughlin traveler placed on DS I's in 1991 and 1992. Owners report that they tend to tangle a lot, and prefer the mid boom system rather than the end boom system. The second item you refer to is a topping lift, to keep the boom up off the deck and cockpit when the sail is down. (Great for mooring)The topping lift is an add on feature. I don't think that it came standard or as an option on any of the DS models.
Thanks again for all your help
Thanks again for all your help. I'm looking forward to getting out on Lake Champlain over the weekend.
Thanks again for all your help. I'm looking forward to getting out on Lake Champlain over the weekend.
Boom Stuff
Not sure what the thing with the wire is??? To attach the sail to the boom...this is the first thing I do before I go out. It is easier to do this while still on the trailor. My sail is slipped from the mast end first. I slide the sail on and gradually work it away from the mast. The tension line feeds through a hold in the end of the boom and loops back to that slotted cleat that you saw on the boom. After completing this I slip the boom into the slot on the mast. After I raise the main sail, I make adjustments on the boom by sliding the sail out as far as it will go on the boom. I have a 12lb 1.5 hp motor for my boat. I'm on calm water and I only use the motor if the wind completely dies. If I were trying to sail and dock in rougher seas I would want at least 3hp. I've never had trouble with my little 1.5 hp.
Not sure what the thing with the wire is??? To attach the sail to the boom...this is the first thing I do before I go out. It is easier to do this while still on the trailor. My sail is slipped from the mast end first. I slide the sail on and gradually work it away from the mast. The tension line feeds through a hold in the end of the boom and loops back to that slotted cleat that you saw on the boom. After completing this I slip the boom into the slot on the mast. After I raise the main sail, I make adjustments on the boom by sliding the sail out as far as it will go on the boom. I have a 12lb 1.5 hp motor for my boat. I'm on calm water and I only use the motor if the wind completely dies. If I were trying to sail and dock in rougher seas I would want at least 3hp. I've never had trouble with my little 1.5 hp.
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