New O'Day 19 Owner Looking for help

[ccahill]

I recently acquired an O'Day 19 from a friend. The genoa is shot. Does anyone have a used one for sale?

Also I got this boat for free. So far I have about $250 into for the rigging, $125 for the main sale to get new batons and a few small repairs. Still need to purchase an engine(any suggestions on size?). I am very new to the sailing world and was wondering if these boats are worth putting money into before I get too crazy.

Thanks,
Chris

 

[CharlzO]

Depends on the value you put upon it. It might be worth a few thousand dollars worth of repairs and improvements to you, even if the resale value doesn't catch up. It's all about how much fun and enjoyment you get out of it. For example, the boat I got for "free", I have spent plenty more than that. I could've just gotten a decent-shape used boat, for what I've put towards this, with money left over. But for me, it's also the uniqueness of it, and more importantly, the learning process as I rebuild it. I put the value of that higher than the value of the boat, personally. As with most boats (and projects of most sorts, for that matter), you rarely are going what you put into it, back out of it.

I'd say, put what you have to into it to get her going, go out and enjoy it, and then decide if you want to put more into the 19, or sail as is and save towards your next, larger boat As far as the rest, keep checking classifieds, craigslist, and even ebay for deals. They're out there, just gotta catch em.

 

[Bobcatter]

I feel the joy you get from any restoration is priceless, PLUS you are saving a boat, giving it another life, you can always be proud of that.
Jump into it and do some research on the web, you will find out a ton of facts that make it all the more interesting. There's a lot of history in that design.
There are places that sell used sails, do a google search, I think there is one called sail warehouse?

 

[Sunbird22358]

For an outboard, I'd say 3-5 horsepower is about right. I wouldn't put more than a 6 HP on the boat, a displacement hull like a sailboat will only go so fast no matter how large of an engine you use (O'DAY 19 has a waterline length of 16'8", max hull speed is 1.34 x the square root of that, which would be about 5.5 knots) Under sail she might go a bit faster, like many sailboats.
If you need advice or any "O'DAY specific" parts (or sometimes a good buy on generic items), you should call Rudy Nickerson at D&R Marine (508) 644-3001 www.drmarine.com he is the O'DAY guru.

 

[lp_gilbert]

I have an O'Day 19. I recently bought a 6hp motor. I've had it out in choppy water and didn't get over 1/4 throttle. This was my thinking. Anything less than 4hp doesn't have reverse it seems. Backing into a dock is stressful enough without having to flip the motor around. I'm not even sue it could be done! It seems that 4-6 hp motors are the same motor with minor changes to hit different price points...about $100 per hp. They also seem to be the same weight. I'd be angry at myself for getting stuck in a situation where a little more power would save the day and skimped on price. also I thought a larger hp engine might be easier to sell when the time came. The O'Day manual says the 8 is the max size recommended.

 

[supercub]

I have a 2012 Tohatsu 3.5 long shaft and it seems about right. The drawbacks are no reverse, no charging circuit and no remote tank. A larger engine with those features would weigh more, making it impossible for me to mount at each launch. Putting the mariner in reverse is hard as it is tough to steer her. I can go about 2 miles on the 2.5gal tank, and the new easy fill gas cans make refilling alot easier. Really, I am happy with the 3.5.

 

[XCIIGTWhipple]

Craigslist searching pays off

I gave choosing a motor much thought and then this jewel popped up on Craigslist locally. Honda 7.5 4stroke (some lakes only allow 4strokes) he was asking $800.00. It was pouring rain I shot 5 $100 bills at him and he even threw in a complete fuel tank w/gauge bulb and full of gas.

It is a little dusty from all the glass work. It is like brand new on the inside and does not have much time in the water.

I the man told me that just swapping the jet in the carb makes this the Honda 9.9.

I plan on dropping mine in the water and motoring around until I find a set of sails. I think the extra HP will come in handy if a storm starts rolling in.

I have an O'Day 19. I recently bought a 6hp motor. I've had it out in choppy water and didn't get over 1/4 throttle. This was my thinking. Anything less than 4hp doesn't have reverse it seems. Backing into a dock is stressful enough without having to flip the motor around. I'm not even sue it could be done! It seems that 4-6 hp motors are the same motor with minor changes to hit different price points...about $100 per hp. They also seem to be the same weight. I'd be angry at myself for getting stuck in a situation where a little more power would save the day and skimped on price. also I thought a larger hp engine might be easier to sell when the time came. The O'Day manual says the 8 is the max size recommended.

 

[XCIIGTWhipple]

I do not have an issue picking the Honda 7.5 up. I put it into the boat while it is on the trailer. Then loaded it into the cabin by myself.

 

[jepomer]

I recently acquired an O'Day 19 from a friend. The genoa is shot. Does anyone have a used one for sale?

Also I got this boat for free. So far I have about $250 into for the rigging, $125 for the main sale to get new batons and a few small repairs. Still need to purchase an engine(any suggestions on size?). I am very new to the sailing world and was wondering if these boats are worth putting money into before I get too crazy.

Thanks,
Chris

Chris,

Only 525 O'Day 19 boats were built from 1979 to 1984 when it was replaced by the O'Day 192 (1984 to 1997). The O'Day 19 comes with two different mast sizes: MK1 (1979-1980) "Tall mast" shown in most of the specification lists and a MK2 (1981-1984) "standard mast" similar length as the O'Day 192

The O'Day manual and literature state the outboard bracket is an option and the maximum outboard size is 8 HP.

ENGINE SIZE:
Although the manual specifies 8 HP max, the same engine with different carburetor/fuel injector is used for the 8 to 10 HP outboards for most manufacturers so the weight of the engine is the same. (The 4 to 6 HP engines are the same engines and weight with different carburetor/fuel injectors.)

The 4 to 6 HP outboard engines are more than sufficient to push the O'Day 19 at hull speed without the extra weight of the 8 to 10 HP engine sticking out on one side of the stern. It will affect sailing characteristics for the purist.

OUTBOARD BRACKET AS AN OPTION:
Yes, believe it or not, a sailboat is meant to be sailed.

Local sailing schools and racing fleets use Rhodes 19 (a similar O'Day model) without any motors. This includes docking and sailing out of Boston Harbor!

In spite of the cabin, this model is made for day-sailing. Having an outboard is a nice convenience especially if the wind has died and you need to get someplace on a schedule. But the outboard is not a necessity.

On my O'Day I regularly use a Minn Kota Endura 50 (small 50 lb, 12 volt thrust trolling motor) to maneuver in mooring fields, docking, etc. when sailing is not an option. It will get the boat moving at 2-3 knots. It is very inexpensive to purchase and VERY inexpensive to maintain - looking at what you have already invested.

My boat came with a 5 HP gas outboard. I used that for a few seasons. It was useful when motoring against a current (think Piscataqua River between NH and Maine when the tide is going out). But I prefer the quiet of the electric motor — and sailing...