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I don't have a big fast boat so i don't know how hard the wind must blow to allow a 40 foot boat with 8 crew and all of their provisions to maintain an average speed over the ground of 8 knots. I have never known the wind to blow from a favorable direction for 60 days.
If you don't recall me saying the boat has a 140% genoa so she is obviously good at sailing into the wind, until she puts the gunwales in the water, and downwind she sails pretty well with a spinacker, like I previously said I know the strengths and weaknesses of the boat and how to make each better.
 

Ross

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But what wind speed do you need to sail at 8 kts on a broad reach? And what wind speed do you need to sail 8 kts when close hauled? Do you fly the 140 in winds above 20?
 
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Do you have pictures of this trip on this boat? Post 'em. Somethings are hard to believe. Doesn't mean they aren't true. I am interested in your trip.
I have some incredible stories too. Most of them ARE true.....well some of them.;)
I think so, I think I have a few in my old computer, ill post them as soon as I get them. Now I would like to hear what you did in your journeys so I can gain a few more for my next one.
 
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But what wind speed do you need to sail at 8 kts on a broad reach? And what wind speed do you need to sail 8 kts when close hauled? Do you fly the 140 in winds above 20?
Beam reach yes but really just ends at 20, and when sailing up wind it depends on the wind angle, but when we are really pointing we don't normally get far over 7, but we don't like that kinda sailing much so we don't usually do it. But answering your question, with a full crew we do sail with full canvas at 20 kts, but nothing over.
 
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Beam reach yes but really just ends at 20, and when sailing up wind it depends on the wind angle, but when we are really pointing we don't normally get far over 7, but we don't like that kinda sailing much so we don't usually do it. But answering your question, with a full crew we do sail with full canvas at 20 kts, but nothing over.
OK, thanks, so how do you figure you went all the way up the west coast from the Panama Canal at 8 knots when the wind is usually from the north or northwest at well over 20 knots most of the time? It's over 1,000 miles from the Mexican border to Cape Flattery.

Just askin'...
 
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OK, thanks, so how do you figure you went all the way up the west coast from the Panama Canal at 8 knots when the wind is usually from the north or northwest at well over 20 knots most of the time? It's over 1,000 miles from the Mexican border to Cape Flattery.

Just askin'...
Because with lots of wind more canvas doesn't mean more speed, all it makes is more heeling. So we did not need lots of sail to make a 8 knot average.
 

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reading this is like watching a train hit a car stuck on the tracks. hard to look away and in the end one of the two is gonna look pretty ugly. I wonder which will end up being the train?
 

jimmyb

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It is most likely a troll hunt. And if they are proven to be correct and the troll is bagged so be it. If they are not I would hope sincere appologizes will be forthcoming.

As stated above im here only for the curiocity and have not the level of knowlege nor the desire to pass judgement here. Good luck and hang in there if you are speaking the truth and if not you had it comming I guess
 

Ross

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I should hope those apologies are coming soon.
Imediately after we are told the truth to the questions asked: How did a crew of 8 get fed and watered for 60 days on a passage to BC? Precisely what route did you follow? At waht time of the year did this passage take place? These are fair questions that can be answered by an honest man.
 
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Imediately after we are told the truth to the questions asked: How did a crew of 8 get fed and watered for 60 days on a passage to BC? Precisely what route did you follow? At waht time of the year did this passage take place? These are fair questions that can be answered by an honest man.
I answered the first one already, we started the sail in mid august. And what do you want me to tell you about route?
 

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Courses and ports of call. Did you transit the Panama canal and at what date? Don't forget to tell us about the provisions for 8 crew for 60 days. Hard tack and salt beef?
 
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Courses and ports of call. Did you transit the Panama canal and at what date? Don't forget to tell us about the provisions for 8 crew for 60 days. Hard tack and salt beef?
First pit stop was in conch house marina in st Augustine Florida, next pit stop was on the pacific side of panama canal at flamenco yacht club and marina. And the last one before arriving in bc was in long beach Washington, called city of warenton marina.
 

Ross

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I would love for you to know that Victoria was the only place we stayed. U seem to forget we were coastal sailing most of the time.
Stops at St Augustine FL , Flamenco YC in Panama and Warrenton Marina in WA is coastal sailing?
 
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Stops at St Augustine FL , Flamenco YC in Panama and Warrenton Marina in WA is coastal sailing?
From the bay to st Augustine yes to panama no from panama part and do you mean the day we registered to transit or the day we actually did?
 

Ross

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Why don't you just tell us when, where, who, how, and what. You seem to want me to ask a question so that you can invent an answer. I still want to know about food for 8 for 60 days.
 
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Stops at St Augustine FL , Flamenco YC in Panama and Warrenton Marina in WA is coastal sailing?
We kept land in sight most of the trip(meaning we were about 50 miles off short). From st Augustine to flamenco we did not. The crew did not feel comfortable doing that so we never were far from the coast after that.
 
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