Need to install gates in lifelines.. Crimper suggestions ?

[dlochner]

Hi Dave
On my life lines the spliced eye at each end is a larger diameter than the eye (that it is led through ) on the top of the stanchion.
Just mentioning my situation, which is not so rare.
In my case you can splice (or swage a fitting) to one end and thread the line through, but you have to do the other end on site.

gary

There should be a turnbuckle at the end, the turn buckle stud will slide through the stanchion hole. At the pushpit or pulpit there should be a toggle to connect the other stud for the turn buckle.

 

[Leeward Rail]

We bought a crimp tool from Temco a frew years ago. They told us the dies were AWG.. They lied.

Awesome. Off my list then..even for power cables. very glad to see your post.

Riggers charge around $10 for a proper swage. For a few dollars, why mess around with an unknown device that would cost more?

Not about cost. All about local availability and time frame. Worst case,
I delay the task and ship them out for modification in the fall. I don't want to have to deal with it failing for both safety, and wasted time/money

Be safe and don't let anyone tell you that a crimper from a different industry will do a proper job. It won't.

I do this for a living and there are 4 basic ways of attaching ends on to cables. For lifelines, C Sherman Johnson Marine...

Fantastic info. I shall call Sherman Johnson. I know they have retailers here.

 

[Leeward Rail]

Fantastic replies and info ! Thanks for that everyone.

 

[jssailem]

I took off my lifelines. Have them to the shop along with the measurements I took. They reproduced the lines and gave them back to me. I put all 6 on but found 1 was not right. Rigger errored the measurements. Forgot to subtract the length of the swage. Took it back and he reworked the lifeline while I waited. Took back and fit like a glove.

 

[dlochner]

The turn around time for small rigging projects is usually short, a few days, not months.

 

[Leeward Rail]

The turn around time for small rigging projects is usually short, a few days, not months.

I had a shroud done PRIOR to COVID shipping hassles around 2015. With international shipping, time in customs, and the work, it took a month.

Edit: I had made the stupid assumption that I would save a few bucks, like is often the case with buying stuff in the USA, and that clearing customs wouldn't be a hassle. I saved money but it wasn't worth it. Next time it will be sent to Vancouver.

 

[dlochner]

I had a shroud done PRIOR to COVID shipping hassles. With international shipping, time in customs, and the work, it took a month.

Edit: I had made the stupid assumption that I would save a few bucks, like is often the case with buying stuff in the USA, and that clearing customs wouldn't be a hassle. Next time it will be sent to Vancouver.

International shipping can be a challenge and we sometimes forget that shipping between Canada and the US is international. I've had good luck with shipping from Canada to the US when buying from Binnacle in Nova Scotia.

I assumed the rigging would be sent to a Canadian rigger.

 

[Leeward Rail]

I assumed the rigging would be sent to a Canadian rigger

That is my plan in the future.

When you compare pricing in Canada vs USA, the Canadian pricing is often much higher than what currency exchange and shipping would allow. I just bought auto parts at retail and they are being shipped over the border. My end cost is half the price than wholesale from our local parts supplier. Shipping will be slow but it's not an issue.

So my default is usually buying in the USA and having it shipped up.

But lately the shipping time has become a real pain. For items coming to Manitoba the routing can be bizarre. I ordered parts from Oregon and like many things, they came in via southern Ontario, then back 1500 miles to here. On top of that.. Lord knows what the customs guys are doing with it. Took forever to clear. Sometimes it is much faster,.depending on carrier, but clearing customs has really been a crapshoot.

Edit: back when I had spare time, I would drive to ND and pick it up.. but that turns into a hassle that takes much of the day.
Only makes sense if I am heading down for additional reasons.

 

[dlochner]

That is my plan in the future.

When you compare pricing in Canada vs USA, the Canadian pricing is often much higher than what currency exchange and shipping would allow. I just bought auto parts at retail and they are being shipped over the border. My end cost is half the price than wholesale from our local parts supplier. Shipping will be slow but it's not an issue.

So my default is usually buying in the USA and having it shipped up.

But lately the shipping time has become a real pain. For items coming to Manitoba the routing can be bizarre. I ordered parts from Oregon and like many things, they came in via southern Ontario, then back 1500 miles to here. On top of that.. Lord knows what the customs guys are doing with it. Took forever to clear. Sometimes it is much faster,.depending on carrier, but clearing customs has really been a crapshoot.

Routing is always an issue and pricing inconsistent. Last year I needed a part for the exhaust fan over the stove at home. Searched all over, found the part in Canada at roughly half the cost of the US suppliers.

 

[Leeward Rail]

Last year I needed a part for the exhaust fan over the stove at home. Searched all over, found the part in Canada at roughly half the cost of the US suppliers.

Since COVID.that has been more common for some products. In some cases there is more relative inventory in Canada and I suspect that is one reason.
OTOH, a friend bought kitchen cabinets from Menards... Made in Quebec from Canadian materials,.than shipped to Fargo ND. He saved a bundle by driving down and repatriating them. Lol

 

[Len Ingalls]

You need a C.S.Johnson 53-210 lifeline crimper. And I recommend you buy the C.S. Johnson lifeline fittings. Pricey,but they work well. Cheers/Len

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[Leeward Rail]

You need a C.S.Johnson 53-210 lifeline crimper. And I recommend you buy the C.S. Johnson lifeline fittings. Pricey,but they work well. Cheers/Len

Yeah. I am also considering the 53-215 lever arm crimp version which is just over $300. The cheaper bolt version would likely work better though... if I was doing it on a bench or table with the handle in a vice.

At the end of the day, prices for the hand crimp fittings don't seem bad really...
It's the price of lumber that I have a problem with.