Need Help, Mast Plate Broken Hunter 460

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Jul 24, 2022
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hunter 460 Marina del Ray
Hi All! Hoping you all can help out with this issue. The plate around the mast attaching to the deck (don’t know the name of this part) has cracked. Please see pics. So a few questions:

1. Can anyone recommend a rigger bear Marina Del Rey, CA that is good?

2.Is this a common problem? Seems a strange part to break in this fashion.

3. Was this due to user error?
Any help or comments would be appreciated.

Thanks!!
 

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Feb 21, 2013
4,638
Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
Ouch!!

Probably not a common failure. Suggest having ALL the standing rigging inspected. Just had my H46 standing rigging inspected and rigged found it in new condition. Good luck with the repair.
 
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Sep 25, 2008
7,495
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
A metallurgist can tell you whether it is a manufacturing defect or stress crack. Assuming that’s where the vang attaches, it’s hard to imagine sheer force cracking it.
 
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Oct 1, 2007
1,865
Boston Whaler Super Sport Pt. Judith
With just a quick look it appears to me to be a bending failure across the stress concentration effect of the four holes drilled in the plate to accept the vang lead block. It appears the eye extends into the deck with a slight bend so it appears to me that the design should not have transferred load to the plate from the vang. The vang block is the fairlead back to the cockpit so the eye does not see more than 25% of the vang load, assuming the vang is 4 to 1 purchase. I suspect the eye became loose and transferred some load to the plate in the aft direction. Also the plate may have been installed in an area of uneven deck which could put it in bending load. I think you might consider how much load the deck plate carries in the aft direction and think about whether an adequate fix may be spot welding the piece or even consider an epoxy fix. Perhaps having a rigger inspect the failure and offer other opinions.


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Looking more carefully it appears to me that the bedding of the deck plate, which carries the entire weight of the rig plus the downward force of the rigging, was uneven which may have placed a large bending load on the plate and it failed across the stress concentration effect of the holes. Looking carefully at the aft end of the plate it does appear the bedding is uneven. It appears to me that the plate was never intended to carry a bending load, or a vertical load in way of those holes for the eye bolt and the phillips head bolts. Most likely the mast pad was designed only for vertical compression loads. Also the design of the vang eye bolt was not designed to transfer load to the mast pad. Is the eye bolt loose?
 
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Aug 18, 2018
146
Hunter 410 MDR
Contact Allan at Seatek in long Beach for the part, maybe he can recommend a rigger that can replace this. Expensive these days in MDR, riggers are asking up to $140 hour on my last job! That is if you can find and book a good one. I've got 2 riggers, 1 broke his leg on a job, good for advice these days and another younger guy who starts at noon and I need to be there to get the work done.
Good luck.
 
Jun 15, 2012
715
BAVARIA C57 Greenport, NY
I would contact SBO for the part. Looks to me like it's made of cast aluminum and cracked due to loading/unloading forces. From the pictures, looks like it needs to be fixed before the boat is sailed. Maybe it could be welded in place without dismantling rigging?