I'm thinking of making a three day voyage to NYC from my home base near Peekskill, NY. I've never ventured out of my home waters and I'd appreciate any advice anyone could offer. I have no idea how long it should take to reach New York harbor or where best to stay overnight or what to expect or watch out for. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
Need advice on trip to NYC
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If you have no idea how long it will take, how do you know it's a three day voyage? You need to do more basic research. Start by checking the tides in the Hudson. Then figure out your boat speed, motoring, or based on prevailing winds. Get a cruising guide. Etcetera, etcetera.
If you have no idea how long it will take, how do you know it's a three day voyage? You need to do more basic research. Start by checking the tides in the Hudson. Then figure out your boat speed, motoring, or based on prevailing winds. Get a cruising guide. Etcetera, etcetera.
Stephen, At least get a chart and a pair
of dividers and "step" the route down with the dividers set for about five miles on the scale. I presume that you have three days for the trip. From "can see" to "can't see" each day. You will need good ground tackle, tide infromation, and a good chart. A good depth sounder would also be a good idea.
of dividers and "step" the route down with the dividers set for about five miles on the scale. I presume that you have three days for the trip. From "can see" to "can't see" each day. You will need good ground tackle, tide infromation, and a good chart. A good depth sounder would also be a good idea.
Done it many times
Stephen, I've done it many times from Haverstraw. What you need to do is hit Haverstraw at high tide and follow the falling tide all the way down the river. It should take you about 5 to 51/2 hours which will time time out perfectly with the tide cycle. This will get you down to the statue of Liberty and and Liberty Landing Marina (or any of the others.) Make sure you follow the tide back up or else you'll be doing about 2 knots over the ground bucking the current and tide. If you need more info -contact me via email. Jack
Stephen, I've done it many times from Haverstraw. What you need to do is hit Haverstraw at high tide and follow the falling tide all the way down the river. It should take you about 5 to 51/2 hours which will time time out perfectly with the tide cycle. This will get you down to the statue of Liberty and and Liberty Landing Marina (or any of the others.) Make sure you follow the tide back up or else you'll be doing about 2 knots over the ground bucking the current and tide. If you need more info -contact me via email. Jack
Calling Capt. Mike C...
Steve, Reach out to Mike C, skipper of the Oday 28 "Da Capo." He sails out of the Chelsea YC, and has made the run downriver to NYC countless times. Try him at asax123 @ yahoo.com. I'm sure he'll be more than helpful. Pete s/v EmmieLou (Oday 322) Little Silver, NJ
Steve, Reach out to Mike C, skipper of the Oday 28 "Da Capo." He sails out of the Chelsea YC, and has made the run downriver to NYC countless times. Try him at asax123 @ yahoo.com. I'm sure he'll be more than helpful. Pete s/v EmmieLou (Oday 322) Little Silver, NJ
It is...
about a 70 mile trip. Get a tidetable and travel with the current for a 1-2 knot lift. You can stop at Haverstraw marina on the West side and then either anchor off the statue of Liberty or go to Liberty landing marina on the JERSEY side and take a ferry or transit into the city. If you leave early this time of year and plan for the current...the whole trip can be done in a day and then you can play in NYC. This waterway guide will help you a lot in planning your trip as well as discovering other nearby destinations: http://www.amazon.com/Waterway-Guide-Northern-2006-Hudson/dp/0976806622/ref=pd_sim_b_1_img/002-9540668-3316058
about a 70 mile trip. Get a tidetable and travel with the current for a 1-2 knot lift. You can stop at Haverstraw marina on the West side and then either anchor off the statue of Liberty or go to Liberty landing marina on the JERSEY side and take a ferry or transit into the city. If you leave early this time of year and plan for the current...the whole trip can be done in a day and then you can play in NYC. This waterway guide will help you a lot in planning your trip as well as discovering other nearby destinations: http://www.amazon.com/Waterway-Guide-Northern-2006-Hudson/dp/0976806622/ref=pd_sim_b_1_img/002-9540668-3316058
another marina
We did the trip to NYC on our way south from Buffalo. Really an easy trip. Try to plan so you are not bucking the current. We stayed one night at Liberty Harbor and I would NOT suggest it. The second night we stayed at Newport Marina. The PATH line is right outside the marina and it takes you directly to Ground Zero. The view of the NY skyline at night is Fantastic. You do pay a price however. The wakes from passing boats bounced us around until about 10pm. Perhaps they have made improvements since we were there in 2005. We used "Cruising Guide to NY Waterways and Lake Champlain" by Cris Brown edited by Claiborne Young. According to our log we motored from Haverstraw Marina to NYC in 6 hours. Capt. Chuck S/V Obession Catalina 320 #114
We did the trip to NYC on our way south from Buffalo. Really an easy trip. Try to plan so you are not bucking the current. We stayed one night at Liberty Harbor and I would NOT suggest it. The second night we stayed at Newport Marina. The PATH line is right outside the marina and it takes you directly to Ground Zero. The view of the NY skyline at night is Fantastic. You do pay a price however. The wakes from passing boats bounced us around until about 10pm. Perhaps they have made improvements since we were there in 2005. We used "Cruising Guide to NY Waterways and Lake Champlain" by Cris Brown edited by Claiborne Young. According to our log we motored from Haverstraw Marina to NYC in 6 hours. Capt. Chuck S/V Obession Catalina 320 #114
Thanks to all
Thanks for all posts. For the record, I do have a chart and I do know how far it is. My question about the time to get there had more to do with whether it was a five hour trip or an eight hour trip. Seems closer to five with a strong tide, which is great. I've done the round trip by power, so I'm not totally clueless, but never by sail and I know that makes it a different situation. Any more advice is welcome.
Thanks for all posts. For the record, I do have a chart and I do know how far it is. My question about the time to get there had more to do with whether it was a five hour trip or an eight hour trip. Seems closer to five with a strong tide, which is great. I've done the round trip by power, so I'm not totally clueless, but never by sail and I know that makes it a different situation. Any more advice is welcome.
Check the "Battery Flood" on Eldridge.
Jack is "spot on" about the tides. Get the Eldridge book and check the tidal currents at the Battery in NYC. 2007 book pages 128 thru 133. This will show your tidal currents in hour increments from high water to low water. Time your trip so you can ride the current all the way down and then ride the current all the way back home. Since the trip is 5 hours(according to Jack), you may want to consider timing the trip so that you arrive late in the afternoon, then you can return early in the morning. The timing of the trip is probably the most important aspect.
Jack is "spot on" about the tides. Get the Eldridge book and check the tidal currents at the Battery in NYC. 2007 book pages 128 thru 133. This will show your tidal currents in hour increments from high water to low water. Time your trip so you can ride the current all the way down and then ride the current all the way back home. Since the trip is 5 hours(according to Jack), you may want to consider timing the trip so that you arrive late in the afternoon, then you can return early in the morning. The timing of the trip is probably the most important aspect.
Another stop over point could be
in Nyack, NY. The Nyack Boat Club does provide guest moorings to members of other clubs and I am sure that it is cheaper than Haverstraw marina where there are only slips at about $4/foot. NBC has bathrooms and showers and a snack bar that is open weekends and shopping within walking distance (unlike Haverstraw where a car would be helpful). The only drawback at NBC is that the launch service does not run 24/7 so it would pay to have a dink and some oars. I think that you would want to call ahead to arrange for a guest mooring which should not cost more than $35. Nyack is also a quaint river town whereas Haverstraw is kind of a dump. I have stayed at Haverstraw Marina and it was nice and quiet and there is a pool and some kind of restaurant there. What peeved me about Haverstraw Marina was that we hadn't provisioned for breakfast/lunch the next day and the restaurant did not open until after 12 PM so we left later than I wanted to. There is also a chandelry there. My boat is 27' so it cost over $100 for the night. Make sure to bring a few cans of tuna fish or whatever provisions you like. As for Liberty Landing Marina I can only say that it is not at all quiet like Haverstraw. There is a bar/restaurant there that plays loud music well into the night (weekends later). The best thing about this marina is if you get in after 7 PM and leave before 6 AM you very well might not have to pay. As someone else posted the view from the Newport Marina might be slightly superior to LLM but you will get more ferry wake there than LLM. As another poster said there are some slips at Chelsea Piers that will cost you but it sounds pretty convenient. A cheaper alternative is Pier 40 where the NYC Parks operates about 16 moorings and no launch service so again, bring a dink. The cost per night is about $40 but be prepared to fill out a detailed form for NYC Parks and to pre-pay. Pier 40 is at Houston St. so is walkable to subway and cabs. I bet you could also stay here for free over the weekend (Sat & Sun) but don't tell them I told you so. The other choice on Manhattan is the 79th St boat basin (also a NYC Parks situation). As far as how long it takes I know that Nyack is about 25 nm from NYC so if you can average 5 knots that section should take 5 hours (but don't count on steady wind by the Palisades near Yonkers). It could take about 6 or 7 hours from Haverstraw. The winds on the river can be a bit flukey (as you probably already know) so be prepared to motor to keep up a 5 knot pace. The land flattens out a bit south of the GWB so the wind will be better as you get away from the Palisades (which are beautiful on the Jersey side). Sounds like fun.
in Nyack, NY. The Nyack Boat Club does provide guest moorings to members of other clubs and I am sure that it is cheaper than Haverstraw marina where there are only slips at about $4/foot. NBC has bathrooms and showers and a snack bar that is open weekends and shopping within walking distance (unlike Haverstraw where a car would be helpful). The only drawback at NBC is that the launch service does not run 24/7 so it would pay to have a dink and some oars. I think that you would want to call ahead to arrange for a guest mooring which should not cost more than $35. Nyack is also a quaint river town whereas Haverstraw is kind of a dump. I have stayed at Haverstraw Marina and it was nice and quiet and there is a pool and some kind of restaurant there. What peeved me about Haverstraw Marina was that we hadn't provisioned for breakfast/lunch the next day and the restaurant did not open until after 12 PM so we left later than I wanted to. There is also a chandelry there. My boat is 27' so it cost over $100 for the night. Make sure to bring a few cans of tuna fish or whatever provisions you like. As for Liberty Landing Marina I can only say that it is not at all quiet like Haverstraw. There is a bar/restaurant there that plays loud music well into the night (weekends later). The best thing about this marina is if you get in after 7 PM and leave before 6 AM you very well might not have to pay. As someone else posted the view from the Newport Marina might be slightly superior to LLM but you will get more ferry wake there than LLM. As another poster said there are some slips at Chelsea Piers that will cost you but it sounds pretty convenient. A cheaper alternative is Pier 40 where the NYC Parks operates about 16 moorings and no launch service so again, bring a dink. The cost per night is about $40 but be prepared to fill out a detailed form for NYC Parks and to pre-pay. Pier 40 is at Houston St. so is walkable to subway and cabs. I bet you could also stay here for free over the weekend (Sat & Sun) but don't tell them I told you so. The other choice on Manhattan is the 79th St boat basin (also a NYC Parks situation). As far as how long it takes I know that Nyack is about 25 nm from NYC so if you can average 5 knots that section should take 5 hours (but don't count on steady wind by the Palisades near Yonkers). It could take about 6 or 7 hours from Haverstraw. The winds on the river can be a bit flukey (as you probably already know) so be prepared to motor to keep up a 5 knot pace. The land flattens out a bit south of the GWB so the wind will be better as you get away from the Palisades (which are beautiful on the Jersey side). Sounds like fun.
Peekskill Trip
Steve, I live in York,Pa but originally from Peekskill. Relatives still there. Have considered sailing from Annapolis for a trip home. Be interested in details of your trip. When are you heading up? Do you have a crew? I have a 33 Hunter which I mostly single hand, but would probably like to have another hand available for the trip. Appreciate your input. I also can be reached a 717-246-3870 or give me your number if you feel comfortable with that. Thanks. Safe trip in any event. Ed Schmitt "Grand Illusion"
Steve, I live in York,Pa but originally from Peekskill. Relatives still there. Have considered sailing from Annapolis for a trip home. Be interested in details of your trip. When are you heading up? Do you have a crew? I have a 33 Hunter which I mostly single hand, but would probably like to have another hand available for the trip. Appreciate your input. I also can be reached a 717-246-3870 or give me your number if you feel comfortable with that. Thanks. Safe trip in any event. Ed Schmitt "Grand Illusion"
Best Value on the Hudson
Nyack Boat Club offers guest moorings for $20.00/night. The Tuesday-Friday 4pm-10pm, Sat/Sun 9am-10pm, No Launch Service on Mondays. A majority of the time (when launch isn't running) there are always friendly members that may be able to pick you up at your boat with a club "tin boat". The 5 guest moorings are on the southwest corner of the mooring field abd should have the letters "NBC" on them. You will have to provide your own pennant(s) During launch hours, hail the launch on VHF Ch 9 or get someone's attention with 3 blasts from your air horn. It's a great place to visit with many shops, pubs, resturants. I hope you decide to make Nyack Boat Club a stop in the near future. If you do, mention me, "Vin Jr". I'm the caretaker as well as one of the launch operators
Nyack Boat Club offers guest moorings for $20.00/night. The Tuesday-Friday 4pm-10pm, Sat/Sun 9am-10pm, No Launch Service on Mondays. A majority of the time (when launch isn't running) there are always friendly members that may be able to pick you up at your boat with a club "tin boat". The 5 guest moorings are on the southwest corner of the mooring field abd should have the letters "NBC" on them. You will have to provide your own pennant(s) During launch hours, hail the launch on VHF Ch 9 or get someone's attention with 3 blasts from your air horn. It's a great place to visit with many shops, pubs, resturants. I hope you decide to make Nyack Boat Club a stop in the near future. If you do, mention me, "Vin Jr". I'm the caretaker as well as one of the launch operators
Speaking od Da Capo
Speaking of Mike C, he's on one of our guest moorings this very moment waiting for a favorable tide south. 08:30 7/11/07 Nyack Boat Club
Speaking of Mike C, he's on one of our guest moorings this very moment waiting for a favorable tide south. 08:30 7/11/07 Nyack Boat Club
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