Nav Table or Junk Drawer?

[Terry Cox]

Our nav station contains several labeled Tupperware containers of organized stuff that seems to find regular use. Assortment of batteries, knives, office supplies, lights, lighters, instruments, etc. And as mentioned above, even some cobweb covered chart plotting instruments/devices.

 

[DougM]

Alistair,
for a minute I thought that picture was of my nav station storage, until I saw the wallet and keys...
Half the time I forget where I leave those.

 

[RoyS]

Throw all that junk away and the next day you will need it. Never fails.

 

[Ron20324]

I aways quote George Carlin's dissertation on "Stuff". He opines " How is it that other people's STUFF is JUNK, and all of your JUNK is STUFF?".

 

[Michael Davis]

In this age of GPS chart plotters on our iPhones, the days of nav tables full of paper charts seems to be over. Have they become junk drawers instead?
Here’s mine:
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Post a photo of yours if you dare and we’ll see who’s the neatest and who’s the messiest. No fair tidying up beforehand.

Unfortunately paper charts are still a legal requirement up here. It takes about 150 charts to do the B.C. coast so my chart table is full. I have to keep my junk somewhere else! Can’t wait til we only need GPS so I can have my important stuff close to hand.

 

[AlastairLC]

a legal requirement up here

Wow! Is that a Canadian law? Never heard of that.

 

[Michael Davis]

That and Sailing Directions or your insurance company can say “ sorry ,you’re not covered”

 

[jssailem]

Here you go... Only because I have been studying this stuff.

@Michael Davis Is RIGHT!

Nautical charts and publications
Canadian Hydrographic Service (CHS)'s nautical charts and publications help ensure the safe navigation of Canada's waterways. Browse our catalogue of over 2,000 nautical charts and publications using the links below.

All vessels in Canada’s waters must carry and use nautical charts and related publications from the Canadian Hydrographic Service in accordance with the Charts and Nautical Publications Regulations, 1995. Please contact a dealer near you to purchase paper or digital charts to be used for navigation.

FAQ:
Am I required by law to carry CHS charts? What are the Charts and Nautical Publications Regulations of the Canada Shipping Act?
Answer:
Vessels of any kind in Canada have an obligation to carry and use official charts and publications issued by or on the authority of the Canadian Hydrographic Service, and to keep them up to date. The chart carriage regulations are listed in the Charts and Nautical Publications Regulations, 1995 under the Canada Shipping Act, 2001.

• CHS paper charts meet the requirements of the chart carriage regulations.
• CHS digital charts meet the requirements of the chart carriage regulations under certain circumstances:
  • CHS Electronic Navigational Charts (ENCs) meet the requirements provided they are used with an Electronic Chart Display and Information System (ECDIS).
  • CHS Raster Navigational Charts (RNCs) meet the requirements only if paper charts are carried and used as a backup.

For further information on which charts meet the official requirements, please see our list of CHS Official Products and CHS Licenced Manufacturers.

 

[Ken Cross]

We still keep paper for the big picture. We also keep current atlas books for our local waters. Depending on the area our tidal currents can exceed 8 knots so we need to understand them. So our nav table is full of legit paper.

Ken

 

[dlochner]

Here you go... Only because I have been studying this stuff.

@Michael Davis Is RIGHT!

Nautical charts and publications
Canadian Hydrographic Service (CHS)'s nautical charts and publications help ensure the safe navigation of Canada's waterways. Browse our catalogue of over 2,000 nautical charts and publications using the links below.

All vessels in Canada’s waters must carry and use nautical charts and related publications from the Canadian Hydrographic Service in accordance with the Charts and Nautical Publications Regulations, 1995. Please contact a dealer near you to purchase paper or digital charts to be used for navigation.

FAQ:
Am I required by law to carry CHS charts? What are the Charts and Nautical Publications Regulations of the Canada Shipping Act?
Answer:
Vessels of any kind in Canada have an obligation to carry and use official charts and publications issued by or on the authority of the Canadian Hydrographic Service, and to keep them up to date. The chart carriage regulations are listed in the Charts and Nautical Publications Regulations, 1995 under the Canada Shipping Act, 2001.

• CHS paper charts meet the requirements of the chart carriage regulations.
• CHS digital charts meet the requirements of the chart carriage regulations under certain circumstances:
  • CHS Electronic Navigational Charts (ENCs) meet the requirements provided they are used with an Electronic Chart Display and Information System (ECDIS).
  • CHS Raster Navigational Charts (RNCs) meet the requirements only if paper charts are carried and used as a backup.

For further information on which charts meet the official requirements, please see our list of CHS Official Products and CHS Licenced Manufacturers.

There is a notable exception in the regulations, from Subsection 4

• (2) The master and owner of a ship of less than 100 tons are not required to have on board the charts, documents and publications referred to in subsection (1) if the person in charge of navigation has sufficient knowledge of the following information, such that safe and efficient navigation in the area where the ship is to be navigated is not compromised:
  • (a) the location and character of charted
    • (i) shipping routes,
    • (ii) lights, buoys and marks, and
    • (iii) navigational hazards; and
  • (b) the prevailing navigational conditions, taking into account such factors as tides, currents, ice and weather patterns.[/QUOUTE]

 

[Michael Davis]

Well it’s a big coast and I can’t remember every rock so I don’t have sufficient knowledge. I’d be OK if I stayed close to home!

 

[jssailem]

I’d be OK if I stayed close to home!

Where would the fun be in that?

And how would all of us get to see pictures of the great and wild waters of the PacificNW...

You have begun a mission. A mission from God... Like the Blues Brothers you must go on...

 

[Ken Cross]

Answer:
Vessels of any kind in Canada have an obligation to carry and use official charts and publications issued by or on the authority of the Canadian Hydrographic Service, and to keep them up to date. The chart carriage regulations are listed in the Charts and Nautical Publications Regulations, 1995 under the Canada Shipping Act, 2001.

There are however many vessels in BC Canada small enough that I doubt they have said charts because those things are huge, expensive, and not readily available.

Ken

 

[jssailem]

It is Canadian on the BC coast. I think there are many things that happen out here that would cause apoplexy to the politicians in Ottawa. From what I know they still call girls girls and boys boys up there in the waters of BC.

 

[Michael Davis]

There are however many vessels in BC Canada small enough that I doubt they have said charts because those things are huge, expensive, and not readily available.

Ken

So true! I’ve got more money tied up in paper charts than in chart plotter and radar.

 

[dlochner]

So true! I’ve got more money tied up in paper charts than in chart plotter and radar.

The rules say that ENC charts are OK so long as they are in a working chart plotter.

CHS digital charts meet the requirements of the chart carriage regulations under certain circumstances:

• CHS Electronic Navigational Charts (ENCs) meet the requirements provided they are used with an Electronic Chart Display and Information System (ECDIS).

I'm interested in this as we are heading for an extended cruise to the Maritimes next summer.

 

[jssailem]

Dave, I am using both the ENC and the Raster charts on my laptop Navigation shotware. From what I understand they meet the minimum requirement. Not sure who or what they would do if you did not have adequate charts when boarded. It is Canada after all and I guess they could tell you to leave. But I have been told they like our US money or at least tolerate it.

So far I have not found any problem and only wonderful folk in the ports I have visited. Even the Canadian Border Officers have been nice.

 

[Michael Davis]

I’ve never heard of anyone being chastised if they were legal in there own country. There are lots of minor differences in the rules between Canada and the U.S. Most plotters will not have CHS charts built in.

 

[dlochner]

For recreational vessels, like ours, the rules are there but don't really matter until they matter. Sort of like the ship's station license for the VHF. If something happens and the license or charts would have prevented it or reduced the impact, then the authorities might take an interest otherwise, it just isn't worth the trouble.

Like when I crossed the border this summer and was asked if I had any food on board and I said no. CBP said OK. And the US never asked if I had any Cuban rum onboard when I returned.

Of course now I'll be targeted next summer.

 

[jssailem]

Of course now I'll be targeted next summer

And for good reason... Brining in good contraband and not sharing the spoils. Shame...