My son asked me "Are you sure about getting a boat??"

Apr 5, 2009
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Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
Awesome. Thank you for your suggestions and advice. I took a sailing course (only one) last year, and I have learned a lot from that (a total of 12 hours of sailing). I am pretty familiar with tacking, heaving-to, trimming the sails, and how to save a guy that fell off the boat, etc. I was going to purchase a Catalina 30' last Friday/Saturday, but during the haul-out (with a surveyor), I saw hundreds of blisters. I decided not to purchase it. The owner of this boat had it painted (hull bottom) in 2020. That was SIX years ago. He should get it painted every 2-3 years. Anyway, I am looking for another boat, hopefully I will get one in the Fall-Winter of this year. I'll have to save up $$ to get a better and newer boat.
I would not put the blame for the blisters on the time between bottom paint jobs. I have bottom painted my 1988 C30 three times in the 28-years I have owned her. I pull the boat every 9-years to paint and have had exactly three 1"ø blisters to fix. FWIW, I use Pettit Trinidad paint.
 

madmax

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Aug 14, 2024
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Catalina (future) maybe 320 Long Beach Shoreline Marina
2026 minus 1995 equals about 31 years. More or less, depending on month finished out. From experience I know that factory sealants (that seal ALL thru-deck fastener penetrations, have a reliable life of about 25 to 30 years at best. Then you can expect water to start invading the core. Best way to counteract this oft-neglected problem is to re-bed ALL the fasteners. i.e. core rot is NOT inevitable. :(

The "gold standard" is to overbore, epoxy fill, and rebore every hole before reattaching all the tracks, cleats, blocks, rails, and a lot of etc. Use new best quality sealant.

I did this on our boat, and it's tedious but not too technical for a determined amateur. And, I was truly an amateur! In our situation we were also motivated by the need repaint the hull and deck, and restore the old nonskid to safe function again, so that was additional motivation. That, and having nothing better to do with our boat during the worst year of the Pandemic. :(

Hardest part of the project is probably going to be access to the nuts and washers on the inside. Ask, and I can link your to some photos in my blog.
A further upside is that now we have a "new" sailboat for a fraction of the price of an equivalent new vessel.
Further trivia: I and a buddy just visited the Seattle Boat Show and viewed a new Bene___ 34, and it was less well finished out than your boat and was priced at almost $400K. Cheap-o iron keel, too. Yikes.

Best of luck with your boat! I know several happy owners of that "hull design series" of Catalina (309, 310, 320).
Just opinion, but I believe your model will out-sail a Cat 30, handily. :)
Overbore, epoxy fill, and rebore every hole before reattaching all.... okay so it's better than "remove bolts/screws/nuts, apply sealant and reinstall bolts/screws/nuts" Like this:
 
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madmax

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Aug 14, 2024
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Catalina (future) maybe 320 Long Beach Shoreline Marina
I would not put the blame for the blisters on the time between bottom paint jobs. I have bottom painted my 1988 C30 three times in the 28-years I have owned her. I pull the boat every 9-years to paint and have had exactly three 1"ø blisters to fix. FWIW, I use Pettit Trinidad paint.
Three times in the 28 years?? That is amazing.

I think the owner got his boat bottom-painted in 2020 with low-quality paint?? I don't know. I just googled Pettit Trinidad paint, which is about $700 per gallon. That is probably why it (high quality) helped to protect your C30's hull (except for a few blisters).
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
I have found the Trinidad paint at Jamestown Distributor. I think the cost was about half that number. It delivered great coverage for about 5 years in our Salish Sea waters.
 
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Sep 24, 2018
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Catalina 30 MKIII Chicago
Three times in the 28 years?? That is amazing.

I think the owner got his boat bottom-painted in 2020 with low-quality paint?? I don't know. I just googled Pettit Trinidad paint, which is about $700 per gallon. That is probably why it (high quality) helped to protect your C30's hull (except for a few blisters).
There may not have been any barrier coat on there. Interprotect 2000 is the standard in the Great Lakes to prevent blisters. It's a two part paint that gets mixed before applying
I have found the Trinidad paint at Jamestown Distributor. I think the cost was about half that number. It delivered great coverage for about 5 years in our Salish Sea waters.
What happened after year five?
 
May 17, 2004
6,112
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
Three times in the 28 years?? That is amazing.

I think the owner got his boat bottom-painted in 2020 with low-quality paint?? I don't know. I just googled Pettit Trinidad paint, which is about $700 per gallon. That is probably why it (high quality) helped to protect your C30's hull (except for a few blisters).
Antifouling paint isn’t really meant to prevent blisters. The higher quality stuff usually just has a higher load of copper or other biocides to prevent barnacles or slime for longer. Blister prevention is usually done with epoxy barrier coats. Without a barrier coat some hulls just do better than others, depending on quality of the original layup and maybe how much time the hull gets to dry between seasons.
 
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Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Antifouling paint isn’t really meant to prevent blisters. The higher quality stuff usually just has a higher load of copper or other biocides to prevent barnacles or slime for longer. Blister prevention is usually done with epoxy barrier coats. Without a barrier coat some hulls just do better than others, depending on quality of the original layup and maybe how much time the hull gets to dry between seasons.
In the early years of fiberglass boat building, builders used polyester resin. Polyester resin is cheaper and cures faster than epoxy resin qualities with financial benefits for builders. Polyester resin is, however, not impervious to water which would seep through the resin and react with partially cured resin to form blisters. Once this problem emerged builders switched to Vinylester resin for hulls because it was less expensive and cured faster than epoxy resins and unlike polyester resin it is impervious to water intrusion.

The other solution to blisters was to coat the hull with an epoxy based paint. Epoxy paints are impervious to water intrusion and protected the vulnerable polyester resin. For the most part this was an after market solution. Boats built with vinyl ester resin are also given an epoxy barrier coat in a belt and suspenders approach to staving off blisters.

Bottom paint, more properly called antifouling paint, is not a player in the blister game. Its sole purpose is as @Davidasailor26 states is to prevent the critters and flora in the water from attaching and growing on the bottom, while providing a smooth and fast bottom. Bottom growth will vary based on water temperature and nutrient load. Cold water found in the north that is relatively nutrient free will have the least growth and warm nutrient rich water will have lots of growth. On the Mantazas River in St Augustine FL we experienced about an inch of growth per week.

I just googled Pettit Trinidad paint, which is about $700 per gallon.
Where were you shopping? West Marine, not noted for low prices, has the most expensive Pettit Antifouling paint for $469 per gallon.
 
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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
What happened after year five?
I hauled the boat. Sanded the boat bottom. Painted it with the same paint and splashed her. Ready for the next adventures.
 
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Yeah, we find that 2 coats would probably last 5-6 years. We tend to haul out every couple of years just for a look-about, and we usually add a coat. I think that we could go 5-6 years though. When we bought the boat, it had gone 5 years, as I recall, and it just had one coat of the cheapest paint the previous owner could find. The hull was coated with mussels, but this was down in Tacoma. Up here, I think growth is less aggressive.

I was amazed that, under all of that growth, the hull was in perfect shape.
 
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Further trivia: I and a buddy just visited the Seattle Boat Show and viewed a new Bene___ 34, and it was less well finished out than your boat and was priced at almost $400K. Cheap-o iron keel, too. Yikes.
Yeah, at that price point you'd be better off buying a derelict boat with a good hull and deck, and paying someone to rebuild it. You'd end up with a better boat for probably half the price.
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
I would not put the blame for the blisters on the time between bottom paint jobs. I have bottom painted my 1988 C30 three times in the 28-years I have owned her. I pull the boat every 9-years to paint and have had exactly three 1"ø blisters to fix. FWIW, I use Pettit Trinidad paint.
I'm sure jealous of you folks up in the North West - here on the Chesapeake, I paint every two years.

dj
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,180
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
Yeah but ... they're engaged in a thread about diesel heaters...
There were a few times a year in Petersburg, FL when members of our cruising club declined sail-outs to anchor destinations (i.e., no plug-in for electric heaters).
 
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Jul 27, 2011
5,180
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
On one companion-boat cruise to Dunedin from St. Pete on Christmas Eve day, it was very cold. We beat 5 n.mi. from Pass-a-Grill Inlet to John’s Pass in a cold north to northwest wind. Too cold and rough for everyone’s enjoyment, we entered the ICW at John’s Pass and motored north in the ICW to Dunedin Marina. I was assigned a slip w/o electricty:what:; our companions got the one with. The next morning, Christmas Day, the sole of my P30 was so cold that I could not stand long on it w/o me moccasins. Tried to use the Origo (alcohol) stove to raise cabin air temp. Thankfully, our friends invited us over for breakfast where we exchanged gifts in comfortable warm from the portable electric heater they had aboard.. My gift received was a copy of O’Brian’s The Wine Dark Sea (new release). The next day we sailed down the ICW to Clearwater Pass then out into 6-7 ft following seas of the Gulf. By the time we re-entered Tampa Bay is was a beautiful Christmas Day.:dancing:

Point: One can benefit from a diesel fired heater even in FL, Remember, the chief sailing season in the eastern Gulf of Mexico is October to May.
 
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Apr 5, 2009
3,288
Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
I'm sure jealous of you folks up in the North West - here on the Chesapeake, I paint every two years.

dj
What paint do you use? I use Pettit Trinidad which is a hard paint. The first couple of years, the slime blocker keeps it completely clean although I still dive the boat every 6-months for zinc and running gear cleaning. The next 6-7 years see a gradual increase in the amount of slime that will aquiter but most of it washes off if I am sailing a lot and it always comes off with just a single swip with my favorite hull cleaning tool which is a blue scotch brite pad on a D handle. It is about4x6 and easy to hold with dive glove. I repaint when I begin to see any type of hard growth which is always mussels that get covered with barnacles but that doesn't happen until year 8-9. I have always had some small areas on the lead of the keel that liked to grow hard stuff but that is kept mostly at bay with twice yearly cleaning. My last haulout, it stripped the keel and refaired it and that fixed most of that issue.

I have never tried an ablative because my marina will not allow diving on a boat if you make a paint fog in the water. The Trinidad does not come off when scrubbing it. I get a cloud of brown scum but no blue paint die.

Last year was to total washout for sailing to to life. As a result, Papillon went a full year between dives. The boat was last painted in October of 2022. This was November of 2025 with 12 months of growth.

This is about as bad as the fiberglass hull it gets after 12 months. I am ashamed to say that I only got Papillon out of her slip twice in 2025, once in may and another day on late June.
before 9.jpg after A15.jpg

This is a location where the paint has chipped off the leading edge of the keel and you can see what happens when there is not paint.
before 11.jpg after A9.jpg
 
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Jan 11, 2014
13,952
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
What paint do you use?
It is not the paint, it is the water that causes a lot of growth. The Chesapeake is much warmer than the waters in the PNW and is very nutrient rich. Ideal conditions for growing all kinds of unwanted plants and animals.
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
5,028
Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
As Dave says, it's not the paint it's where you are. Just a FYI, I also use petite Trinidad. It's a good bottom paint. It has always gotten good reviews here in the Chesapeake. It also depends on the year. This past year was really bad - I actually only had my boat in the water for about 1 month and then hauled it back out as I was sailing on another boat for a long sail. When they pulled my boat after that 1 month, it was covered in barnacles... I've never seen it that bad. Your photos would have been something like a week in the water this past year....

Not sure what I'm doing this year. I'm working on getting a slip in Norfolk as my daughter and granddaughter have just moved there. It would be awesome to have my boat next to where they live. Gotta get that granddaughter sailing! But no idea if that will work out yet...

dj