My Awakening to Oday

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Jan 11, 2011
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None Yet 38 Texas
I have to admit, I had never seen an Oday boat before the other day; I came upon an image of a 1984 37’ Oday center cockpit. At first glance, I thought the interior design odd, to the point of lunacy, but over the course of the last few days I keep finding myself drawn back to the images of this boat. The more I think about it, the design offers some very interesting possibilities. Although, I still can’t decide if having an isolated berth with a second companion way is a design born of pure genius or utter madness, but either way it is definitely interesting. :) She’s also beautifully designed on the exterior with exquisite lines. It’s funny, that boat is just shy of 30 years old, and I think the design is more impressive than a lot of newer ones I’ve been looking into.

Very cool site. I sensing a wealth of Oday information that I cannot wait to fully explore.
 
Sep 25, 2008
7,695
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
There used to be a few similar designs, the most prevalent being some of the old Morgan OI 41s with similar cabin configurations and I believe there are still boat manufacturers that have built a few in recent years, Amel being one. If popularity is any indication, I don't think they are very practical but clearly opinions vary. The separate cabin might be a good mother-in-law suite.
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
I own the little sister to the 37 a 32 which Oday mfg first and discontinued it when they built the 37 its basically the same set up and I love it...the wife and I have our privacy and the kids,guest have there's in the forward cabin.
The big difference between the 32 and 37 besides length is draft because the 37 only comes as a fin keel and where I sail the shoal draft is a must
 

Thyme1

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Jul 14, 2010
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Oday 32 Key Largo
Hi Rad,

I've got the 32 Ketch- Any tips securing the retractable keel bolt into the housing in the forward cabin?
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
Hi Rad,

I've got the 32 Ketch- Any tips securing the retractable keel bolt into the housing in the forward cabin?
Tell me more.......my keel is controlled by a cable that comes up a tube behind the galley cabinet and steps and then goes to a rope/cable winch behind the electric panel that has the rope exit in the cockpit
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Hi Rad,

I've got the 32 Ketch- Any tips securing the retractable keel bolt into the housing in the forward cabin?
Are you referring to the pivot pin for your centerboard? I'm assuming that your keel/centerboard set up is similar to most of the O'Days, mine included. Some have a cable that comes off a winch drum and goes straight down to the centerboard in the keel slot. Others have a braid pendant line that goes from the cockpit companionway step through a curved pipe and through a sheave inside the keel slot to the board which may or may not have a metal cable connection depending on the year and model of the boat. Most of these keel/centerboard sloops have two stainless steel plates bolt to the bottom of the keel that hold the wedges in place for a fiber pivot pin in which the board pivots on. The wedges are also held in place with an adhesive caulking.
I may be wrong, but I think that most of the O'Day keel/centerboards are set up this way. The only way to find out is to look at the bottom of your keel. You may or may not have the small sheave in the keel slot if the pendant line pipe is a straight shot coming down from inside the cabin. Perhaps these pics will give you a better understanding of how it may be set up.
Joe
 

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
Joe,
My pivot system and his is the same as yours even the mounting brackets and plastic pivot but the way to attach the cable to the board is a small shackle through the board and then through a very small loop in the cable as small as possible so that when the board is pulled up it stays below the small tube opening at the top of the keel trunk
I think you can zoom in on the pic and get an idea
 

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Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Joe,
My pivot system and his is the same as yours even the mounting brackets and plastic pivot but the way to attach the cable to the board is a small shackle through the board and then through a very small loop in the cable as small as possible so that when the board is pulled up it stays below the small tube opening at the top of the keel trunk
I think you can zoom in on the pic and get an idea
You're right about using a small shackle RAD. There really isn't much room inside that keel slot especially if your pendant line set up doesn't have that small sheave for the pendant line to ride through. Mine has a small pocket for the sheave and I was able to get away with the shackle that I have now which was the very same length as the one that came with the boat. The only difference is that my shackle has a sheave built into it for the eye splice to go around. So I'm assuming that your boat doesn't have that single sheave up in the keel slot, or does it?
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
You're right about using a small shackle RAD. There really isn't much room inside that keel slot especially if your pendant line set up doesn't have that small sheave for the pendant line to ride through. Mine has a small pocket for the sheave and I was able to get away with the shackle that I have now which was the very same length as the one that came with the boat. The only difference is that my shackle has a sheave built into it for the eye splice to go around. So I'm assuming that your boat doesn't have that single sheave up in the keel slot, or does it?
Hmm now that I think of it when replacing the cable and getting my eyeball looking up into the tube it had a slot that yes the cable has a small sheave and I guess thats where it lives when the board is up.
I also should note to others with this set up that right above the sheave where the cable crimp is is the spot where the cable fails cause the board moves while sailing and thats where the cable gets the most fatigue.
The last time I replaced the cable (spring 2009) I installed a foot extra so this spring I'm going to cut 6 inches off at the keel end and redo it with a new sheave and crimp and thats when I'll take some better photos cause this subject has come up many times
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Hmm now that I think of it when replacing the cable and getting my eyeball looking up into the tube it had a slot that yes the cable has a small sheave and I guess thats where it lives when the board is up.
I also should note to others with this set up that right above the sheave where the cable crimp is is the spot where the cable fails cause the board moves while sailing and thats where the cable gets the most fatigue.
The last time I replaced the cable (spring 2009) I installed a foot extra so this spring I'm going to cut 6 inches off at the keel end and redo it with a new sheave and crimp and thats when I'll take some better photos cause this subject has come up many times
Rad,
Before you do anything about this cable, you should call Rudy and ask him if you can convert that cable to a braid line with a shackle. I'm almost certain you can do this. Rudy had told me quite a while back that the cable on the 1975 O'Day 25 can be converted over to braid line. The centerboards are only made of fiberglass just like the centerboards on the later model OD 25s and 26s which are set up like mine in that the braid line comes up into the cockpit. The 1975 O'Day 25s have a winch drum on the table pedestal down below. We have one at our club that is set up that way. Whether the guy who owns it ever converted it over, I don't really know, but Rudy had told him that he could use braid if he wanted to. This may apply to your boat as well, provided that the pendant line can go through that sheave. If for some odd reason the sheave is too narrow, you can remove it by taking the nuts and washers off from inside the cabin. The sheave and U bolt can be removed from under the keel. You would need to Mickey Mouse something to grab it. Rudy also has the sheave and U bolt set up for the keel slots, but all you would need is just the sheave, which you can purchase anywhere.
The one good thing about braid lines is the fact that it can be inverted just like halyards and sheets and anchor lines. I've done all of these through the years. You only need to remove it with a tag line left in the pipe and make up the other end for the shackle. Then cut the old eye splice off and use the line over. I'm not as familiar with splicing braid as I am with three strand rope because I don't do enough of it. So I go by the directions when I splice braid. I've found that these braid centerboard pendant line really don't wear that much. The only thing that I had to replace last year was the cotter pin on the shackle and that was it.
I may be all wet on this braid line conversion on your particular model O'Day boat, but it's worth checking into I think. It's just food for thought.
Joe
 
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