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Apr 8, 2010
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Frers 33 41426 Westport, CT
Just placed my order. ordered 4 of them, 2 for me, 2 for a friend, plus some speaker wire. started to check out and they said if I spent another $1.23 I would save nearly $14 with free shipping, so I added $4.27 worth of connectors, and got the free shipping, then noticed I can enter a promo code, which a quick google search turned up "SAVE52012" for $5 off.

In the end I spent $0.73 less than I was going to at first attempt to check out, and got both the connectors, and free shipping. :)
 

Ted

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Jan 26, 2005
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C&C 110 Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
Shankar, you will feel some vibrations although they are by no means very strong or annoying. If there weren't vibrations, the exciters would not produce sound. Cushions would muffle the sound so placing the exciters on a cockpit seat may not be the preferred location.There are no instructions from the manufacturer regarding installation. You can hold them in place against the surface you want to install them on to test for sound quality. Definitely test before you make the final installation as you will notice big differences in the tonal quality depending on substrate thickness, area and proximity to your listening position.
 
Dec 11, 2008
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catalina C27 stillwater
If I were installing them for listening in the cockpit, I would consider two locations:
1. The vertical walls of the seat bases, i.e. where your calves are when sitting.
2. The vertical cabin bulkhead. If I mounted this way, I would hide the transducers behind cabinetry, or figure out some cosmetically pleasing way to hid the transducers and wiring. This to hide or disguise them inside the cabin.

These two locations will not typically be affected by cushions.
 
Dec 11, 2008
1,338
catalina C27 stillwater
Another crazy idea I have used in the past.....

Several years ago I owned a Chris Craft Cavalier plywood cruiser. Being plywood, there were no duoble-walled hidden places to put speakers. Any hole you cut in the cabin either exposed the cockpit, the head, or the topsides.... Any hole you cut in the cokpit exposed the cabin, the head, or the topsides....

The typical solution in these boats is an enclosed speaker, boxy, usually white, which predictably faded to yellow. Not a good soluition for my aesthetic.

SO...

What I did was go out and buy some plastic hanging pots, 5" to 6" in diameter, some large-perf metal mesh, some of that window insulationg putty, (you could use butyl tape) and some silk ivy.

Using some very small speaker wire, I carefully twisted/braided the speaker wire into a 3-point hanging system for the pot, with one of the wire pairs actually being the real signal conductor. I then took a speaker that was smaller, with a round OD feature and "glued" it into place down in the pot. For speakers that have tabs, consider cutting a round ring that the speaker can screw down to, and then fasten the ring to the plastic pot With the metal mesh I cut a disk and glued it in place, then poked enough silk ivy into the mesh to make a convincing hanging plant.

I hung a pair of the plant speakers down in the cabin, to port and starboard. up in the cockpit, I installed another pair aft witn one on either side, under the wide gunwales...

The pot affected the sound some, and added some coloration... It was noticeable to me but not to most others. Cosmetically it just looked like my wife had aded a touch of decoration to the boat.....

You guys might find this, or ssomething similar might be the ideal solution. Who knows... Figured I would share.
 

kenn

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Apr 18, 2009
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CL Sandpiper 565 Toronto
I have a rather low opinion of most of the speakers that usually get sold as "marine" units, or the throbbing sonic mess created when someone mounts a subwoofer driver in the side of a fiberglass locker.

Those transducers are a cool idea! I gotta try a pair, I think.
 
Dec 11, 2008
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catalina C27 stillwater
I have a rather low opinion of most of the speakers that usually get sold as "marine" units, or the throbbing sonic mess created when someone mounts a subwoofer driver in the side of a fiberglass locker.

Those transducers are a cool idea! I gotta try a pair, I think.
Kenn-

I am curious, (yet I think I might know the answers)...

As the marine audio product line manager at Kicker, I would love to know where you think "marine" speakers fall short of your expectations.

Know tone is often lost on the written word, and one could easily mis-read my query as a defensive... That is not the case here; I am genuinely curious about your consumer expectations. :D

As a long-time die-hard boater, I think I am largely in-touch with the unique needs of the market, but if I don't ask I don't have a chance to build a better product.

Tell me your thoughts? What makes a speaker a "marine" speaker and what is lacking in the ones you consider to be not up to the task?
 
Nov 6, 2006
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Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Needs to reproduce sound well and be waterproof and UV resistant, and magnetically shielded.. Most "marine" speakers i have seen permanently bulkhead installed in Louisiana are trash after 3 years in the sun and heat and humidity. The "waterproof marine speakers" I use in the cockpit are stored inside and plug into a cockpit cubby with an RCA plug. They are still in good shape after 4 years.. I bought marine ones so that they'd be able to withstand the normal spray and rain encountered on trips.
I feel like "marine" to most speaker suppliers means installed in a wake boat that has a cover on it and is used about 10 weekends a year..
 
Oct 10, 2010
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Hunter H260 Gull Lake
I'm giving them a try. I just ordered 4!! I explored some placement options yesterday and have some ideas but without trying them I really have no idea. I'll let you know how they do. Delivery is late next week and with having to deal with customs...who knows.
 

kenn

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Apr 18, 2009
1,271
CL Sandpiper 565 Toronto
Kenn-

I am curious, (yet I think I might know the answers)...

As the marine audio product line manager at Kicker, I would love to know where you think "marine" speakers fall short of your expectations.
Hi Phil,

My opinion is based mostly on the sound systems that the non-audiophile boater gets sold by non-audio specialists. And the problem as you know is often as much the location chosen as the speaker. And I haven't heard Kickers.

So I expect there's not that much I could tell you about how to improve marine speakers.

Ok - one thing. Every speaker must be a good speaker first, then marinized. Some of the box speakers that are sold alot in chandleries are mediocre speakers that happen to be weather-resistant.
 
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