Music Problems - Help

RoyS

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Jun 3, 2012
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Hunter 33 Steamboat Wharf, Hull, MA
My old DIN1 size CD player died. That one had a nice aux input for an ipod that I often used. Bought a new stereo from Sony. Fit right in but was missing cd player. My mistake, there. Instead it had Blue Tooth. The stereo turned on (without sound) when I reconnected my batteries this Spring. I tried to turn it off but could not figure out how. Left it on for over a month until I could find the manual. Seems you have to push some multi-function button and hold it for five seconds to actually shut the damn thing off. The complexity of the controls is ridiculous! Remember when an auto radio had two knobs? One for on/off/volume. One for tuning. With blue tooth you get phone pairing and hands free phone calls. Who would ever want that on a boat? So the radio is in the cabin and you are sailing peacefully in the cockpit listening to some music and the telemarketer calls. All stop! You must leave the helm and go to the cabin and try to cancel the now ringing stereo phone over four speakers. Useless! How about the Equalizer features? What normal adult would ever use that? How about satellite radio? Trying to use this stereo is a multiple choice test. Push any button and a list of possible functions comes on the screen. Scroll through those and make a selection. Then comes the sub-menu selections. I realized that I did not use the damn thing all last season until my Granddaughter got it going with her awful music. Where can I get a simple DIN1 size CD player maybe with an aux input and no bluetooth, no equalizer, no hands free phone, no satellite radio, few or no radio buttons? I am old and simply want to occasionally listen to music over my four stereo speakers. Anyone have a suggestion?
 
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Nov 6, 2006
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Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
I feel your pain, Roy.. When I bought my boat in 1991, it had no stereo so I installed a din1 AIWA (Sony's premium line at that time) . It was a casette player model with an aux input. I could plug in a Walkman CD player into the aux input for CDs but used my self recorded casettes which could hold one LP vinyl album on each side of the casette.. Later, I could plug in my iPod to the aux jack and get continuous music from my playlists that I'd made from the huge bunch of CDs that I own. A couple of years ago, the AIWA gave up the ghost (~30 years old) and I installed a new DIN1 unit. It has the stuff you talk about, including the cryptic buttons, but it has an input for the iPod so I have all the music I own (about 6 days of non stop tunes) at my fingertips.. The buttons are not logically labeled so there is a bunch of special button protocols to obey.. I will not link my phone to it.. Ahhhhh Progress!
 
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Jan 7, 2011
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Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
One of my solutions is to play music from my phone, through the stereo using Bluetooth. I get the music throughout the boat, but Then I can pause, change the volume, etc. from the helm. My stereo does not have built-in bluetooth, so I have to use a Bluetooth adaptor. It does have a CD player, but I never use it.

I usually stream SiriusXM over my phone but can also play Spotify, etc.

When I bought the boat, there was a small, old Sirius receiver on boar. I hooked it up, and to my surprise, it worked great. I play it through the stereo too (via an Aux input on the stereo). I have never paid a subscription for the device, but it plays great. The one downside? I have to go to the nav station to change channels, change the volume on the stereo…the same issue you have.

So, since your stereo has Bluetooth, can you control it with an app on your phone?

otherwise, it sounds like we should swap stereos ;-)

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Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
We have an older stereo receiver that we seldom use. Now we use a portable Blue Tooth speaker that we stream music or radio stations through. Simple and easy.

However, you are not looking for a portable speaker. I fear you are looking for something that no longer exists. The simplest car CD player I could find was at Best Buy. It comes with a remote that will be much easier to use than the little buttons on the radio with print too small for septuagenarian eyes to read. Struggle through setting it up once and then just use the remote to control it.

 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,335
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Raid a “You-Pull” junk yard of old cars. Find a radio in ok condition. Pull it and wire it into your boat.
Only concern is it may only play music from the 60’s.
 
Sep 26, 2008
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Hunter 340 0 Wickford, RI
Sirius XM is an option. They have an external unit you can get to use on the boat. I believe it’s called Onyx. Ask for the $5.99 a month deal. Trust me you have to ask.
And your not old, it was just easier. Turn the radio on and go. Now its wires, connected to phones, placed in holders, connect to Bluetooth just to listen. Where’s the hands free?
 
Jun 21, 2004
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Beneteau 343 Slidell, LA
My old DIN1 size CD player died. Where can I get a simple DIN1 size CD player maybe with an aux input and no bluetooth, no equalizer, no hands free phone, no satellite radio, few or no radio buttons? Anyone have a suggestion?
I purchased a new old stock Sony off of EBay a few years ago. Very reasonable price. Nothing fancy or complicated; has a CD player that I reallly don't use and, more importantly, an AUX input for use with an I pod, phone, etc. Also included a remote. Same footprint as my Old Sony, so installation was quite simple.
 
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Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Try Crutchfield, a vast assortment of radios/players.

I installed a Bluetooth car stereo a few years ago. I leave it on and set for BT input, anbd turn it off via the stereo switch on my electrical panel. It has an AUX input, too, so I use the boat speakers when I'm watching a movie on my laptop.

Given your description of your woes, it seems you could set it up and use your electrical panel to turn it on an off and not have to deal with the menus again.
 
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Tedd

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Jul 25, 2013
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TES 246 Versus Bowser, BC
Only concern is it may only play music from the 60’s
You say that like it was a negative thing!

I feel @RoyS 's pain. I find many products these days are made difficult to use so that they can incorporate features I don't want and will never use. I'm not a luddite, I love technology. (I am an engineer, after all.) But I subscribe to a philosophy I call neo-Amishism: Evaluate each new technology from the perspective of whether it enhances quality of life, as you define it. If not, don't use it. That's why sailboatowners.com is pretty much the only form of social media I use!
 
Dec 28, 2015
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Laser, Hunter H30 Cherubini Tacoma
I’ve have almost totally abandoned my installed stereo. I have a BT module installed but I’ve found taking my JBL BT speakers and running them off of my phone is much more power conserving and sounds much better. We will listen o the stereo in the mornings to hear some news.
 
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Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I’ve have almost totally abandoned my installed stereo. I have a BT module installed but I’ve found taking my JBL BT speakers and running them off of my phone is much more power conserving and sounds much better. We will listen o the stereo in the mornings to hear some news.
Mostly that's what we do too.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,335
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
I’ve been using the cell phone/ BT JBL speakers on Hadley because that’s all I had powered. With the new DC board and additional batteries I‘ll install the stereo that has been sitting on the shelf.

The sound out of the JBL Flip4 speakers surprises me.
 
Oct 6, 2007
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Hunter H30 1982 Chicago IL
I feel your pain. I have to re-learn how use my boat stereo system every spring.
 

RoyS

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Jun 3, 2012
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Hunter 33 Steamboat Wharf, Hull, MA
Update: I think I found a suitable stereo for my boat. It only has features I might use and no useless features that only complicate the controls. It is not a cd player but it utilizes blue tooth for music streaming and remote controls. That blue tooth is NOT used for hands free phone calls. An ap for your cell creates a remote control for the stereo. Menus are simple and it is designed for marine use. It is made by Garmin under the brand name FUSION. The model I am buying claims to be a standard DIN1 size to fit in the available hole in my boat. There is a less expensive model that has all the features I need but it is smaller and would require more installation work to fit. I will try to post a link. Fusion MS-RA70
 
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Ward H

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Nov 7, 2011
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Catalina 30 Mk II Cedar Creek, Bayville NJ
Looks like a nice unit.

Car stereos today are designed for our grandchildren who can easily figure them out. Not for our generation.

Like several others, I chose to go with bluetooth speakers. I've had JBL, Anker and now Sonos (only because I have a Sonos system at home).
We already know how to use our cell phones so playing music through them is simple. If we get a call on the phone we have the option to answer on the phone, not the bt speaker but we normally don't take calls when sailing.
 

RoyS

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Jun 3, 2012
1,742
Hunter 33 Steamboat Wharf, Hull, MA
The Sony unit I am removing has multifunction buttons and vast menus and sub-menus. It is sold as a car radio. How could anyone use that while driving? You would have to park somewhere, put on reading glasses, pull out the instruction manual and try to figure out how to use it. Foolish!
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Glad you found a radio. Fusion makes solid products, was bought by Garmin a couple of years ago.
 
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