Mounting a propane tank to a stanchion

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DannyS

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May 27, 2004
933
Beneteau 393 Bayfield, Wi
I did a quick archive search but didn't see much about this so here goes...
Is there any reason why I should not mount a 5 or 10 pound propane tank for our Magma grill, on some type of mounting mechanism that I would make to attach to a stanchion? I hate using the little green Coleman tanks and just throwing them away when empty. We have an Origo stove that uses alcohol and I like that down below so this would only be for the grill. We don't have a designated propane storage locker so I thought I'd mount it off the back, outboard of the transom so hopefully any leak would not end up in the cockpit or down below.
Thoughts?
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Just make it very strong and secure and shield it from the sun.
 
Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
The problem is that a full steel tank is going to be fairly heavy and put a lot of strain on the stanchion base. You would be better off mounting the tank to the transom of the boat or to the pushpit railing, and running a hose from it to the grill.

Ideally, you'd get a composite tank, since they are considerably lighter and far more boat friendly. However, I have not seen any composite tanks smaller than the 17# ones I bought.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
We have a local hardware store that sells propane tanks that look to be about gallon or two gallon size. The smaller one would be equal to 8 of 9 throw away cylinders. I wouldn't hang a 20 pound capicity steel tank on a stanchion, when full they weigh nearly fifty pounds. However the tank gets attached, it should take the attachment point with it if it leaves the boat.
 
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
PO put a six pound aluminum can in a bracket on a stanchion. I don't like it. Six pounds is not a lot of propane, but a spare can would cost me $180. I am going to go to a fiberglass tank on the transom with a cover.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Morgan 415 Out Island Rogersville, AL
Would 50# be too much weight for a stern rail? That is where I want to mount my tank. I see davits that attach to the rails and those corner seats. I agree that 50# might be too much for a single stanchion. It would make a large tempting target for a green horn to push on from a dock.
 

DannyS

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May 27, 2004
933
Beneteau 393 Bayfield, Wi
Sternrail

Sorry guys, I have a sternrail (pushpit) and that is what I meant to say, not stanchion.
 
Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
Go with a composite LPG tank. They're about half the weight of the steel tank the same size when filled. They're also less expensive than the steel tank in the long run, since they don't corrode. About $58 on-line.

Would 50# be too much weight for a stern rail? That is where I want to mount my tank. I see davits that attach to the rails and those corner seats. I agree that 50# might be too much for a single stanchion. It would make a large tempting target for a green horn to push on from a dock.
 
May 6, 2004
916
Hunter 37C Seattle
Danny, I did a rail mount for an aluminum tank, it was the spare tank for the galley stove. When I hooked it up to grill, the regulator on the grill doesn't work very well, meaning the flame is barely adjustable and I have tried a couple of hoses without any change in result. I bought a clamp on mount from Sure Mariine in Seattle http://www.suremarine.comhttp://www.suremarine.comhttp://www.suremarine.comhttp://www.suremarine.com and the bottle straps to the mount. Mount works great - secure etc.
 

jansan

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Jan 22, 2008
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Catalina 28 Clyde Scotland
here`s a photo of mine, Danny -------- it`s a bit lacking in detail but if you`re interested I let me know and I`ll email you some better pictures.

It`s on a Catalina 28 ( which is a bit short on cockpit locker space ) so moving the bottle to the back of the boat frees up the port locker which was where it previously lived. It used to be in a sealed ( but vented to the outside ) wooden box with an electric solenoid controlled ON/OFF valve.

The new box has a front opening door, plus a slanted hinged lid, made out of marine ply ( with space to hang the outboard motor to the starboard side)

Total cost was minimal ( provided you discount the cost of personal labour ! )
 

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Jan 2, 2005
779
Hunter 35.5 Legend Lake Travis-Austin,TX
Danny...use the link to "SureMarine" provided 2 posts above. Then go down to "propane accessories" and click on "propane tanks", go down to page 19 (of 32) and I think you'll find a good version of what you were asking about.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Morgan 415 Out Island Rogersville, AL
The SureMarine people should work on their web page. What misserable software. They didn't even bother to put a price on the rail kit. How much are they charging?
 
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
If you clik on "on line store" on the left, and enter the part # you get prices. Their 6# tank is about $50 cheaper than WM. I have their rail bracket , 6# tank. Works fine.
 

Benny

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Sep 27, 2008
1,149
Hunter 320 Tampa, FL
It is not clear if your need is defined by ease of usage or for not having to throw empty cannisters away. We do not use our grill that often so for us the 1 lb bottles work fine. We have other uses for the bottles off the boat so for us they are convenient. I found an adapter to be able to refill the bottles from our home grill 20# tank. There is also a pouch that you can hang from the stern pulpit to keep bottles handy and out of the cabin. If convenience is the issue I see no safety nor weight problem to hang a 5 lb tank on the stern. I would paint the tank silver or a reflective white. Just keep the valve closed when not in use and check the hose periodically.
 

DannyS

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May 27, 2004
933
Beneteau 393 Bayfield, Wi
Thanks for the input everyone, I didn't think there would be much of a problem but it's always good to get the opinions here.
Benny, we live on the boat for the majority of the summer and grill about 75% of the time so I'd like to cut down on the canister waste. I have the net bag and always have a couple of canisters on hand but I'd just like to eliminate that waste. They are convenient tho'.
That mounting contraption looks pretty simple to build. If I go that route, I'll post some photos.
Thanks all.
 

Sonya

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Oct 9, 2007
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Mirage Sloop 25 Spanish, Ontario, Canada
Hi DannyS
We like you BBQ alot on board. We looked at many different ways to mount the tank securely. My husband and his son decided to notch the aluminum toerail one day and set the tank into the two notches, I was sitting in the cockpit and suggested that instead of notching the $35,000.00 toerail, maybe they should notch the $35.00 lip on the bottom of the tank to fit over the toerail and let it sit outboard. This is what we did, and secure it to a staunchion with a stainless band, it has rode there eversince and never budged even in pretty severe weather. If the tank ever should leak, no problem it already outboard and well vented. Just a thought for you
Sonya
 
Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
Just curious as to how a $35,000 toe rail can exist on a 25' boat. Is it made of platinum???

Hi DannyS
We like you BBQ alot on board. We looked at many different ways to mount the tank securely. My husband and his son decided to notch the aluminum toerail one day and set the tank into the two notches, I was sitting in the cockpit and suggested that instead of notching the $35,000.00 toerail, maybe they should notch the $35.00 lip on the bottom of the tank to fit over the toerail and let it sit outboard. This is what we did, and secure it to a staunchion with a stainless band, it has rode there eversince and never budged even in pretty severe weather. If the tank ever should leak, no problem it already outboard and well vented. Just a thought for you
Sonya
 

Sonya

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Oct 9, 2007
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Mirage Sloop 25 Spanish, Ontario, Canada
Doesn't...
It was on a 33 hunter that we did this
LOL Sonya
 
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