Motor lift/tilt - 9.9 weight

caguy · Mar 8, 2014

What motor do you have?

walt · Mar 9, 2014

This might give you an idea.. I did this to help pull up the outboard plus the black cover can get real hot - at times almost too hot to touch.. works reasonably well for how simple it is.

I also have a tether/T handle to the "release" lever as this is also a pain to get to.

Sumner · Mar 9, 2014

It isn't easy for sure. We have the stern rail so I took care of the problem with the old Honda and the new Tohatsu....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor/outside-index.html

....Ruth can pull it up no problems now. Not sure what to say with no stern rail to work with,

Sum

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topcat0399 · Mar 9, 2014

walt said:
This might give you an idea.. I did this to help pull up the outboard plus the black cover can get real hot - at times almost too hot to touch.. works reasonably well for how simple it is.

I also have a tether/T handle to the "release" lever as this is also a pain to get to.

We did something very similar. You plant feet against gunnel and just pull until it locks up. I used a piece of pvc pipe as a handle allowing 2 hands on the pull if needed.

Getting to the tilt/run lever without hanging over the boat is a problem I haven't solved yet.

Sumner · Mar 9, 2014

topcat0399 said:
.....Getting to the tilt/run lever without hanging over the boat is a problem I haven't solved yet.

Two lines, one for the bail at the back and the other to raise the outboard or lower it in this case...

.. I did something similar with the Honda...

.. The lowere line above. It pulls forward while the Tohatsu had to pull rearward.

Here is the page on the Tohatsu...

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor2/outside-29-a.html

...and the one on the Honda....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor/outside-24.html

Sum

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topcat0399 · Mar 9, 2014

Thanks Sum. I imagine you just have a spring loaded bail or rod that is pulled out to release the tilt lock and when you are raising it it just stays in place. Seems like you only need one directional motion to work it.

I think the lever on an old Evinrude 9.9/15 operates a little differently than the ones you have. Its lever that has to be in one position for tilt and another for run. The lever further complicates it by describing a an arc while actuating. Its kind of awkward. I've messed with it a little last summer but continue to hang over the laz to get at it for now.

I'll cobble something up. Might not be elegant.

Sumner said:
Two lines, one for the bail at the back and the other to raise the outboard or lower it in this case...

.. I did something similar with the Honda...

.. The lowere line above. It pulls forward while the Tohatsu had to pull rearward.

Here is the page on the Tohatsu...

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor2/outside-29-a.html

...and the one on the Honda....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor/outside-24.html

Sum

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walt · Mar 10, 2014

Walt, what is that tee-handle rope attached to on the other end?

Simple set up, the second rope and T handle just connect to the release lever. Easy to use. Before that I had to almost crawl into the well to get to the release. On my 9.8, the other T handle just pulls the outboard up. . I have no problem without the leverage to pull the outboard up, just need to make it not so awkward. The stern rail is just where the rope is tied off.

walt · Mar 10, 2014

One other thing about Sumners setup. In another thread, I had my shifter bust off when the outboard jibed in the well when I was sailing in a good breeze. The way I pull the outboard up is simple - but then I have to use something to hold the outboard over to one side so it doesnt jib in the well.

Sumner, I wonder if your method of pulling the outboard up from the stern rail is adequete to hold the outboard in a rigid position in the center of the well so that there is no chance of it rotating back and forth (and busting stuff like shift levers..). Its a little more complicated than just a tether and T handle but if you can just pull it up and leave it as is, it ends up being less complicated. Did you ever get to test that heeled over in some fairly good wind?

caguy · Mar 11, 2014

Without the stern rail a lifting block and tackle will not work. It sounds like you just need a little more leverage. Here is one possible simple solution. Hope it helps.

Sumner · Mar 11, 2014

walt said:
One other thing about Sumners setup. In another thread, I had my shifter bust off when the outboard jibed in the well when I was sailing in a good breeze. The way I pull the outboard up is simple - but then I have to use something to hold the outboard over to one side so it doesnt jib in the well.

Sumner, I wonder if your method of pulling the outboard up from the stern rail is adequete to hold the outboard in a rigid position in the center of the well so that there is no chance of it rotating back and forth (and busting stuff like shift levers..). Its a little more complicated than just a tether and T handle but if you can just pull it up and leave it as is, it ends up being less complicated. Did you ever get to test that heeled over in some fairly good wind?

We have a hook....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor2/outside-29-a.html

....The hook fits into the hand-hold on the top back of the outboard (bottom arrow) and holds it over against the rubber stop/cushion on the side of the top mount (top arrow).

With both of us into our 70's now the pulleys really help in lifting the outboard. After our deal of sitting 3 days in a side canyon on Lake Powell when I'd been hurt and couldn't start the Honda we wanted to make sure that Ruth can operate almost everything on the boat. Thus moving to an outboard with electric start and making sure that she can get it into and out of the water. I still have the strength to lift if, but this works so much easier and on anchor we pull the motor up every night. Now that is a very simple deal.

Some of this is overkill maybe if you sail where other people are around and in fair weather but if you sail where you are out multiple days and can't predict the weather that far ahead and are going to have to deal with it whatever it becomes and/or in remote areas make sure more than one person can operate things on the boat. Even with the outboard up if I went overboard and Ruth couldn't quickly get it down and started she might loose sight of me and that wouldn't be good,

Sumner

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caguy · Mar 11, 2014

Sum, he doesn't have a stern rail. So unless your hook is a "sky hook" there is nothing to attach to.

Sumner · Mar 11, 2014

caguy said:
Sum, he doesn't have a stern rail. So unless your hook is a "sky hook" there is nothing to attach to.

I realize that, I was answering Walt's question and throwing out info for anyone that does have one or is maybe advancing in years or had possible other strength issues

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Sum

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caguy · Mar 11, 2014

Sumner said:
I realize that, I was answering Walt's question and throwing out info for anyone that does have one or is maybe advancing in years or had possible other strength issues ,

Sum

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Investing in a stern rail might be a good mod for the same geriatric population (of which I am an AARP card carrying member).

Chris & Lenore · Mar 11, 2014

Sorry for the poor picture but this setup is simple, doesn't need a stern rail and works well for us. It also holds the motor in any position so you don't have to pull it all the way up and engage the lock.

It's a block attached to the engine cowl via 1/4 (or the next side up) nylon line.
The lifting line is anchored through a hole (with knots on the other side) at the front of the motor well, near the top.
The line goes through the block and then forward to a "sideways clam cleat". I have a T handle on the line that helps to get a grip.
My wife can raise the motor by pulling on the line and the cleat keeps it I the up position.
Dead simple - works like a charm. The only issue I had was the block vibrating on the cowl when the engine was running. Solved that by taping a bit of garden hose under it.

We have a Yamaha 9.9 on a 26S.

Chris

Sumner · Mar 11, 2014

holdech said:
....Dead simple - works like a charm.

All of the above are a simple mod taking at the most a couple hours and well worth it in my view,

Sum

walt · Mar 12, 2014

I agree.. good ideas here from everyone. Boats like this are a great retirement sport and the outboard is the one place where it takes too much effort to do. I know what I considered no problem 5 years ago is now too much of a pain..

Sumner · Mar 13, 2014

vizwhiz said:
Do you guys have then rope attached to the removable hood on the engine or somewhere solid inside? Pics of how the rope is attached to the engine would help a lot...
Thanks!
Great ideas, BTW

More pictures here....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor2/outside-29-a.html

Sum

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