Motor horsepower for Mac 25

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Dec 17, 2004
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Macgregor 25 San Diego
Nissan 9.8 for my Mac 25

I wouldn't go for less hp if you sail in much current, high seas, and/or high wind. However, that said, I wish I had a 5 or 6 hp for the lighter weight when racing, the 9.8 weighs 93lbs and takes the two of us to lift it on and off the boat. I also do not trailer with the engine mounted.
 
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Greg

Motor

The Max HP on the original bracket was 10 HP, but that is using a 2 cycle engine. 4 cycle engines weigh more. They torque the brackets more too. I have 3 Vn 23's (just sold one) and have used everthing from a British Seagull Feather Weight (about 1.2 HP) to a Honda 10 HP. (other motors include a 6 HP 2 cycle and an 8 HP 2 cycle) Top speed was the same. The loudest engine is the Sea Gull, the quietest was the Honda. The Honda required a new heay duty bracket with a hydrolic ram assist (big bucks). The Sea Gull has a 5 bladed low pitch prop and is doing Max WOT at 4.5 knots. (except the saegull all motors have a 3 blade low pitch prop)Yes I could squeek a fraction of a knot more out of the 10 HP. The 10 HP Honda also used more than twice the fuel, but it did have electric start, which I never used. My favorite motor is my 8 HP 2 cycle. Not because of the power, but because it has a charging circuit, and remote controlls (throttle and shift, mounted in the cockpit). The Seagull only has forward, no clutch, no recoil starter, never breaks, never fails to run, can power my boat to at least 4 knots towing a North American 23 behind her. It's not HP with a sail boat, but how much thrust you can get from your prop that counts. If I were to buy a new engine, I would get the Tohatsu, 5 HP. It can be had with a long shaft (if the prop's not in the water, there's no thrust) a charging curcuit, and has a built in fuel tank, as well as being able to hook up to a remote fuel tank. Remotes are available for this motor too. I think it comes with the 6" pitch prop, so get the 5" pitch 3 blade prop and try that for more thrust.That would give you plenty of power, a long enough shaft, ability to charge your batteries, remotes so you don't have to hang over the stern to shift from forward to reverse, no need to have a fuel tank in the cockpit, except on long trips, and not too much weight, saving you from having to get a new engine bracket.
 
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jacques leblanc

%5 HP Brigs

I just bought a 5Hp brigsand stratin from Acadimy Sporting goods it dosen't have a long shaft or altinator but it does the job good its actualy a lawn more moter on top an out board shaft. I would like it better if it had a longer shaft but will do for now.
 
Apr 25, 2005
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Macgregor Venture 25 My Backyard
Jacques.....make sure

you keep it clean...and out of the saltwater. My counterpart got one used, and it was more trouble than it was worth. Also, make sure that you have a reliable shop working on it. I have heard that they can be a little finiky(sp). I have a Yamaha 15 elec start and 11 amp charger. I went with it, because of the price, not the power so much. I got it for 2100 delivered, and it came with the throttle/shifter and a key setup for the cockpit. It is a very quiet engine, when we have it running, but I like to sail not motor unless there is no wind, and it is hot. We sail the SF Bay all the time, so currents play a part in needing a good motor.
 
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Greg

Briggs

If you are using your boat in fresh water only the Briggs is the cheapest, and by replacing the fly wheel adding the PU and diode it can also have a 5 watt charging system (get these from an old electric start lawn mower) You can even use the starter from an old lawn mower if you want, but these died when used on lawn mowers so wouldn't last long around water. Not a bad engine, but not for salt water use. Also 2 bladed high pitch prop doesn't give you the thrust the engine could produce with a lower pitched 3 bladed prop.
 
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Greg

Briggs and salt

It's not the engine that suffers from the salt water but the lower unit. It's a poor grade of aluminum, almost like a pot metal. Water does enter the lower unit and when it goes, it goes from the inside out. By the time you relize there is any corrosion, the unit is done for. How ever if rinsed enough, like running it in a fresh water bath, you may get away for years with it in salt/brackish water. Being an air cooled engine it's a shame they didn't put a little better material in the lower unit. Add the charging curcuit and a lower pitched 3 bladed (big mickey mouse ear) prop, and a long shaft, and they could have a good motor for small trailer sail boats. I think they were going for a small cheap outboard for john boats and row boats. It fits that market fine.
 
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