Mortar-like buildup in old waste lines

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Doug

Hello- I was removing my toilet manual pump to rebuild it (it seems to start leaking from everywhere at once) And noticed a fair amount of what appears to be brick-type mortar coming from the toilet to holding tank line. I used a drain snake and was able to knock a hole throught it...but it took a while. The boat is new to me (in May 2003) so I don't know what the previous owners did for maintinence or how the treated the system. What causes this mortar buildup inside the hoses and how do I get it cleaned out? I ran into the same problem in a hose that went to the thruhull from the holding tank. Thanks in Advance - Doug
 
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Peggie Hall/HeadMistress

Sea water calcium carbonates and urine crystals

It's not uncommon for 'em to build up in hoses from toilets that flush with sea water...I suggest you also check the head intake hose. A 12% solution of muriatic acid and water will dissolve it. It can be prevented by flushing a quart or two of clean fresh water down the toilet, followed by a cupful of white vinegar once a week or when you close up the boat at the end a cruise.
 
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Doug Snell

Only in the outlet lines

Thanks Peggy- I will try the Muriatic acid solution. From just finishing the pump rebuild I know that the mortar is only in the pump outlet to tank and tank to thruhull lines...but heavey enough to stop a diaphragm pump from working. I didn't notice any in the inlet side of the pump or in the hose. Can the muratic acid be left in for a couple of days? Is it damaging to the hose itself (I have the black, thick-walled sanitation hose with an integral wire). I have been flushing a quart of fresh water each week this season, along with my Odorlos treatment, So I would guess the hoses were in this state when I bought her. Doug
 
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Peggie Hall/HeadMistress

Depending on the age of the hose

I would test 'em for odor permeation before attempting to clean 'em out, and if they have permeated, replace 'em. 'Cuz you'll never have an odor-free boat as long as they're in the boat. Fresh water and Odorlos alone would not prevent mineral buildup...neither has any properties to dissolve the crystals. Vinegar does...in fact, repeated doses of it will even get rid of a buildup as severe as yours. Muriatic acid is faster, but a bit too dangerous to handle to use as a regular preventive. As for how long you can leave it in the hoses, I suggest you read--and FOLLOW--the directions for use on the muriatic acid bottle. If the hoses have been neglected, I suspect the tank has been too...meaning there's likely to be a buildup of sludge in it that may or may not have turned to "concrete." If so, and if it's still mud, it can be flushed out by adding a few gallons of water down the pumpout deck fitting (because the water will enter the tank at the bottom to stir it up)...pumpout...repeat...repeat...till the water being pumped out is clean. Do NOT attempt this using the macerator to dump the tank...the sludge will only clog up the macerator. However, if it's turned to "concrete" there is nothing that will dissolve it that won't damage the tank...muriatic acid will not work for this. If the buildup is deep enough to block the tank discharge, your only choice is a new tank.
 
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Doug Snell

Very thorough advice!

The tank is new, as I replaced a leaking bladder and a broken diverter valve a couple on months ago, I though I was saving time by not replacing a couple of hose sections (whoops). The tank does have some mud in it, but I will do as you recommend at the next pumpout. I've already done the hot towel test and the old hoses seem to be fine.
 
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