i live in jax and there is a run down cat that someone is living on just next to one of the large bridges here in the city i fell sorry for the people that have to look at that every day from ther million dollar homes, if it was me i would be upset. .. is that legal if it is any one know the rules for doing your own mooring?
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I'm not an attorney (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once) however I've dealt with this issue before. If the area isn't a designated anchorage (it will be listed on the local chart if it is) or a near by boat club does not have a submerged land/Land managament agreement from the State of Florida than technically you need to show an anchor light at night. If local laws apply, there might be an anchoring time limit in that city/county. If you drop a mooring in Florida I believe you are required to get a Dredge and Fill permit before doing so. I'm not sure how the helical moorings fall into the "Fill" catagory. The thing that seems to get most of these boat in trouble is the lack of an anchor light at night. If the boats rig up an anchor light than the next issue is whether or not the vessel is sea worthy (able to move under it's own ower either sail or motor). If it is not sea worthy than the derelict vessel codes may come into play for your local county. If it has none of these than you are next left to deal with the old mentality of "we've always done it this way so why change now?" This issue is coming up all the time is is a prickly one to deal with, good luck.
I'm not an attorney (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once) however I've dealt with this issue before. If the area isn't a designated anchorage (it will be listed on the local chart if it is) or a near by boat club does not have a submerged land/Land managament agreement from the State of Florida than technically you need to show an anchor light at night. If local laws apply, there might be an anchoring time limit in that city/county. If you drop a mooring in Florida I believe you are required to get a Dredge and Fill permit before doing so. I'm not sure how the helical moorings fall into the "Fill" catagory. The thing that seems to get most of these boat in trouble is the lack of an anchor light at night. If the boats rig up an anchor light than the next issue is whether or not the vessel is sea worthy (able to move under it's own ower either sail or motor). If it is not sea worthy than the derelict vessel codes may come into play for your local county. If it has none of these than you are next left to deal with the old mentality of "we've always done it this way so why change now?" This issue is coming up all the time is is a prickly one to deal with, good luck.
Sorry, but
I am more inclined to feel sorry for the unfortunate individual forced to live on a run down cat, than the poor unfortunate millionaires who have to look at it. If it is such a problem, maybe they should take up a collection and lend a hand.
I am more inclined to feel sorry for the unfortunate individual forced to live on a run down cat, than the poor unfortunate millionaires who have to look at it. If it is such a problem, maybe they should take up a collection and lend a hand.
Moorings require a permit
Everyplace that I know of requires a permit to place a mooring. So the Harbor Master must know who it is. Although, I give the guy credit for making his home somewhere and not on the street. Maybe this will show the $1M home-owners a little humble pie.
Everyplace that I know of requires a permit to place a mooring. So the Harbor Master must know who it is. Although, I give the guy credit for making his home somewhere and not on the street. Maybe this will show the $1M home-owners a little humble pie.
Envy
I drive over this bridge everyday on my way home from work. Frequently I see the occupant of the boat and feel rather envious of his full timing - run-down or not is all in the eyes of the beholder. I personally find it relaxing to look at the boats moored in the river - legal or otherwise.
I drive over this bridge everyday on my way home from work. Frequently I see the occupant of the boat and feel rather envious of his full timing - run-down or not is all in the eyes of the beholder. I personally find it relaxing to look at the boats moored in the river - legal or otherwise.
many ways to see it.
There are lots of ways to view this situation. I've been the boater on a run down boat and I also have lived on the waters of s. florida my entire life and watched those same boaters from my land based moorings. I can see this picture from both sides, it seems that freedom is becoming increasingly more expensive. Living aboard is becoming a rare luxury as more and more laws are made to protect the non-native's who flock to this area and immediately seek to change what brought them here in the first place. On the other hand what right does a boater have to simply plop down on state run submerged land and live. If one can do it on the water than why not pitch a tent and live in the median of your local interstate? Maybe both of these ideas are a solution to our homeless problems nation wide. Like I said, many way's to view this situation.
There are lots of ways to view this situation. I've been the boater on a run down boat and I also have lived on the waters of s. florida my entire life and watched those same boaters from my land based moorings. I can see this picture from both sides, it seems that freedom is becoming increasingly more expensive. Living aboard is becoming a rare luxury as more and more laws are made to protect the non-native's who flock to this area and immediately seek to change what brought them here in the first place. On the other hand what right does a boater have to simply plop down on state run submerged land and live. If one can do it on the water than why not pitch a tent and live in the median of your local interstate? Maybe both of these ideas are a solution to our homeless problems nation wide. Like I said, many way's to view this situation.
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