mooring anchor???????

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Sep 15, 2009
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S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
just got this out of an electric motor generator and got to thinking how neat it would be for a mooring anchor ...its about 900 lbs and about 32inches at the big end and the stem is about 56 inches tall or long depending on weather you are aggie or a yellowjacket what do you think folks

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woody
 

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Apr 1, 2004
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Diller-Schwill DS-16 Belle River
It could be made to work, but I think you might be charged with unlawful dumping. Guess you would have to run it by local authorities first.
 
Jun 1, 2004
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Catalina 22 PA
Are you thinking about using it in salt water or fresh water? Is it made out of multiple types of metals that would corrode or have a galvanic reaction?
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
How much copper is in it? scrap copper is selling at about 2 dollars per pound. A 900 pound mushroom would be a better choice.
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,244
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
How much copper is in it? scrap copper is selling at about 2 dollars per pound. A 900 pound mushroom would be a better choice.

thats 900 lbs with the copper off......got about 350 lbs copper off of it took me most all of this day to salvage the copper ...off to the recycle place in the morning:dance: ....i never ate a 900 lb mushroom before :eek:........if any one is interested in this you can have it just as long as you come get it ....going to take it to the scrap yard soon so contact me if any one wants it .....

regards

woody
 
Jun 6, 2004
173
Catalina 38 San Francisco Bay
If you throw that thing into salt water, I think you are going to have some pretty exciting electrolysis going on ...
Cash in on the recycling ...
I have a friend who used a retired rail car axle and wheel as a mooring. It buried itself like a mushroom and lasted many many years.
 

Weasel

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May 23, 2004
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Beneteau 331 Iuka, MS
Mooring Anchor

Weight is not the only criteria for a mooring anchor. The reson a mushroom anchor is so good for thast purpose is that it tends to bury itself over a period of time in the seabed. The suction power of the mud, marl, etc. after the anchor has settled and holds the anchor plays a primary role. If it were just weight our aids to navigation, (ATONS), Nuns / Cans and other items we place in the seabed would stay put. They don't, so you see what I mean. Also if this is salt water you will have dissimilar metal corrosion. This would affect your chain and possibly your zincs. Go with the tried and true.
Now if you want to hide a body..... this may be just the thing. Out beyond the 12 mile limit.... :D
 
Nov 30, 2007
276
Hunter 36 Forked River, NJ
Not to derail the subject of mixed metal mooring anchors and magic mushrooms, but is anyone allowed to create their own mooring wherever they want? Do you need any local authority approval before planting a mooring in public water? Suppose someone else hooks onto your mooring when you're off sailing - can you legally remove their boat?
 
Nov 30, 2007
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Hunter 36 Forked River, NJ
exactly! Would you be able to charge someone else for using a mooring you set out there for yourself? Are there any regulations about establishing private moorings? For insurance and legal reasons, I'm guessing there are not too many places you could legally install your own mooring without getting prior approval, especially a boat of significant size that would swing over a wide circle. I can think of a number of local places where people seem free to moor their own Sunfish and motorized rowboats, but that's a different story. I think?
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
exactly! Would you be able to charge someone else for using a mooring you set out there for yourself? Are there any regulations about establishing private moorings? For insurance and legal reasons, I'm guessing there are not too many places you could legally install your own mooring without getting prior approval, especially a boat of significant size that would swing over a wide circle. I can think of a number of local places where people seem free to moor their own Sunfish and motorized rowboats, but that's a different story. I think?
Many locales have very strict mooring regulations from who, what, where and how they can be set. A fair number of municipalities specifically ban the use of concrete or other home made moorings.

Mushrooms need to be used on the appropriate bottom. They should never be used on a hard sand or other hard bottom as they need to set or screw themselves into the seabed. At this point my own mushroom is standing vertically in the sea bed with a funnel cone created by the chain. The diver literally has to reach his hand down into the funnel cone in the mud to feel and inspect the shackle. The bell of my mushroom is nearly five feet below the sea bed..

Find out the local regs and the bottom type then get a mooring specifically suited for that bottom type.
 

Gail R

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Apr 22, 2009
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Pearson 34 Freeport, ME
Not to derail the subject of mixed metal mooring anchors and magic mushrooms, but is anyone allowed to create their own mooring wherever they want? Do you need any local authority approval before planting a mooring in public water? Suppose someone else hooks onto your mooring when you're off sailing - can you legally remove their boat?
Can't speak for every community and every state, but where we are, you need a permit from the town to sink a mooring, and that mooring has to meet certain requirements. Our harbor, for example, requires granite blocks of a certain weight depending on the boat they're going to hold, and they must be inspected periodically. Because our harbor is full, the waiting list for a mooring is years.

Next town over, there are many fine anchorages that were starting to get peppered with moorings by people too lazy to set an anchor. So the town has a moratorium on new moorings.

The Army Corps of Engineers has gotten involved in some cases where people wanted to sink moorings in certain anchorages. Can't remember what trips the ACE button -- might be lack of FT harbormaster or something?? I should know, I was on a first-name basis with the ACE guy when some joker was trying to pepper Penobscot Bay's most pristine anchorages with $20/night moorings.

Rant on:

I can only recall one instance where a boat took our mooring w/o permission. We were tied up at the dock, loading up for our annual cruise, not really watching the boat traffic. We finally got ready to cast off and put our boat back on her mooring for the night and there's a trawler sitting on it, with no one on board. Couldn't believe it. A few weeks later, we were observing a work boat from one of the local marinas motoring from one vacant mooring to another, as if to check them out. This marina owns 15 or so of its own moorings and claims to "manage" hundreds of others in our harbor. Mind you, there is nothing in the town regulations giving anyone permission to "manage" privately owned moorings. I can't say for sure, but I strongly suspect this marina put that trawler on our mooring that night, so the trawler folks figured they were good to go and left to get a shower and dinner or something.

I have had a sour taste in my mouth about that marina ever since.

Rant off. :)
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,736
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
On a mud bottom, I think that would be a good mooring anchor.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
For any concerns about galvanic corrosion attach several very large zincs to it and paint it with asphalt roof coating.
 
Nov 30, 2007
276
Hunter 36 Forked River, NJ
Galvanic versus environmental concerns

Ross - that might solve galvanic concerns, but wouldn't that be at the expense of the aquatic environment below? Isn't the binder in asphalt a petroleum product that would leach out?
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Re: Galvanic versus environmental concerns

Not after it was dry. No more harmful than an asphalt paved bridge.
 
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