MOB single handed

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steve g

Does anyone have an idea as to turning off an autopilot when sailing single handed if a MOB occurs? I have an ST-4000.
 
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steve g

Does anyone have an idea as to turning off an autopilot when sailing single handed if a MOB occurs? I have an ST-4000.
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
I don't want

to sound like a smart ass on this. But the best way to deal with this is to make damn sure you don't go over the side when single handing. 20 miles offshore is not a place I want to be, looking at the stern/side of my boat, at six knots, attached by a tether. A single 6' tether, hooked on to something on or close to a gunwale, will put you in the water on most boats. That is where you don't want to be. As I stated in a previous post, I clip myself in with two tethers, one on each side of the cockpit. Absolutely no way I can go out of the cockpit. Don't care if my mobility is limited. Don't care if it is inconvienent. Just care that I can't go over the side. As for your question, someone posted up about a remote to shut an auto pilot off, but not sure where it was.
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
I don't want

to sound like a smart ass on this. But the best way to deal with this is to make damn sure you don't go over the side when single handing. 20 miles offshore is not a place I want to be, looking at the stern/side of my boat, at six knots, attached by a tether. A single 6' tether, hooked on to something on or close to a gunwale, will put you in the water on most boats. That is where you don't want to be. As I stated in a previous post, I clip myself in with two tethers, one on each side of the cockpit. Absolutely no way I can go out of the cockpit. Don't care if my mobility is limited. Don't care if it is inconvienent. Just care that I can't go over the side. As for your question, someone posted up about a remote to shut an auto pilot off, but not sure where it was.
 
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Bill O'D

Good question

Discipline yourself not to use auto pilot while solo. The alternative is to wear an approved marine harness and tether. Always tether to something in the middle of the boat, not the sides. That way if you fall you won't fall over. Wear an approved IPRB to activate if you do go over. Try not to make any moves on the bow unless you're near another boat. That way if you fall you have someone relatively closeby. Hang a trailing line over each aft side to catch if you can.
 
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Bill O'D

Good question

Discipline yourself not to use auto pilot while solo. The alternative is to wear an approved marine harness and tether. Always tether to something in the middle of the boat, not the sides. That way if you fall you won't fall over. Wear an approved IPRB to activate if you do go over. Try not to make any moves on the bow unless you're near another boat. That way if you fall you have someone relatively closeby. Hang a trailing line over each aft side to catch if you can.
 
Aug 15, 2006
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Beneteau 373 Toronto
The whole point of autopilot

is to make solo sailing easier or even possible. Turning it off kind of defeats the purpose.
 
Aug 15, 2006
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Beneteau 373 Toronto
The whole point of autopilot

is to make solo sailing easier or even possible. Turning it off kind of defeats the purpose.
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
A little bit of mis information

This time maybe a little smart ass. Anyone who has single handed offshore, and has an auto pilot has used it. The don't use the auto pilot when single handing isn't even a viable answer when day sailing. You have to pursue normal bodily functions, such as water, food and bath room. Matter of fact, it is more than a little difficult to not use the auto pilot. My normal practice when single handing is to never sleep at night, only during daylight hours. I always have the radar on, with the alarm set. When I sleep during the day, and only then in the cockpit, I am tethered in. I would consider an answer appropriate to not use an auto pilot when in tight quarters, when near a lee shore, or any of several other scenarios. But to say don't use an auto pilot when single handing is not good advice.
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
A little bit of mis information

This time maybe a little smart ass. Anyone who has single handed offshore, and has an auto pilot has used it. The don't use the auto pilot when single handing isn't even a viable answer when day sailing. You have to pursue normal bodily functions, such as water, food and bath room. Matter of fact, it is more than a little difficult to not use the auto pilot. My normal practice when single handing is to never sleep at night, only during daylight hours. I always have the radar on, with the alarm set. When I sleep during the day, and only then in the cockpit, I am tethered in. I would consider an answer appropriate to not use an auto pilot when in tight quarters, when near a lee shore, or any of several other scenarios. But to say don't use an auto pilot when single handing is not good advice.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,342
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Be creative

What makes an autopilot work? Two things, electricity and friction. So, even if you turn off the power, the friction lock (or hydraulic or electric ram) will stay in one place, and the boat, if reasonably balanced will continue sailing. So...turning off the power, as easy as it could be to rig a disconnect that could be accessed from the stern if you go overboard and trail a line (I know, IF you could get back to the boat...) won't work. So, what's needed is a way to overcome the friction or locked ram. I've been doing this for over 25 years and haven't come up with one yet. This is for w heel. For a tiller, I suppose you could rig a line that would pop the autopilot' tiller connection off the pin and release the pilot from the tiller. I personally wouldn't depend on it. So, STAY ON THE BLOODY BOAT and use the techniques mentioned here. :)
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,342
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Be creative

What makes an autopilot work? Two things, electricity and friction. So, even if you turn off the power, the friction lock (or hydraulic or electric ram) will stay in one place, and the boat, if reasonably balanced will continue sailing. So...turning off the power, as easy as it could be to rig a disconnect that could be accessed from the stern if you go overboard and trail a line (I know, IF you could get back to the boat...) won't work. So, what's needed is a way to overcome the friction or locked ram. I've been doing this for over 25 years and haven't come up with one yet. This is for w heel. For a tiller, I suppose you could rig a line that would pop the autopilot' tiller connection off the pin and release the pilot from the tiller. I personally wouldn't depend on it. So, STAY ON THE BLOODY BOAT and use the techniques mentioned here. :)
 
May 5, 2006
1,140
Knutson K-35 Yawl Bellingham
I reckon somebody needs to come up

with a remote unit good to about 500' to control the AP. I know it can be done and whatever company did it would corner a big chunk of the market.
 
May 5, 2006
1,140
Knutson K-35 Yawl Bellingham
I reckon somebody needs to come up

with a remote unit good to about 500' to control the AP. I know it can be done and whatever company did it would corner a big chunk of the market.
 
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Jeff

Very good

discussion topic. How on earth(or ocean) do you stop a boat sailing on autopilot, if all diligent efforts to stay on board have in some miraculous way failed? Wouldn't it be cool to disengage the pilot and maybe even trip the sheets if you went overboard. Seems we could rig that in some way. I have heard of an autopilot interface that will steer into the wind(am guessing you'd have to have a wind direction intrument attached to the system) if a sensor attached to your PDF became submerged. This is the ticket. Was there a discussion on this device?
 
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Jeff

Very good

discussion topic. How on earth(or ocean) do you stop a boat sailing on autopilot, if all diligent efforts to stay on board have in some miraculous way failed? Wouldn't it be cool to disengage the pilot and maybe even trip the sheets if you went overboard. Seems we could rig that in some way. I have heard of an autopilot interface that will steer into the wind(am guessing you'd have to have a wind direction intrument attached to the system) if a sensor attached to your PDF became submerged. This is the ticket. Was there a discussion on this device?
 
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Jeff

Just thought of something

The Simrad Tiller Pilot on my 26 has a wired remote with about 20 feet of cord. Many wheel pilots have remotes too.
 
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Jeff

Just thought of something

The Simrad Tiller Pilot on my 26 has a wired remote with about 20 feet of cord. Many wheel pilots have remotes too.
 
May 5, 2006
1,140
Knutson K-35 Yawl Bellingham
Ok, they make waterproof VHF's right?

What's to stop them from making a wireless control for the AP where you could heave her to?
 
May 5, 2006
1,140
Knutson K-35 Yawl Bellingham
Ok, they make waterproof VHF's right?

What's to stop them from making a wireless control for the AP where you could heave her to?
 
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